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I think everyone may have seen Ed's
Note above. Everything he is saying is true and I must admit
That It was a trip to Jacksonville and one ride in his 5.0 that changed me
And really was a big driver to start this project. I was told by dean at prowlerpro when you drive a 5.0 you will be hooked and I must say that was one of most fun rides I ever had in the prowler and why Ed drives everyday. Who else has over 140k miles of smiles. That tells you something. I was close to getting one just like it but ran across the 6.1 and jumped on it.

And here are some Picts from that day


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2/22/12 build updates:
Shop completed headers went out to jet-hot for coating this week. http://www.jet-hot.com
The First set shown in previous post went overseas. Decided to get mine jet coated so required a few tweaks.

Jet hot will coat inside and outside of the tubes and drops heat dramatically on the surface, improves engine flow .reduces friction heat, protects and increases HP 

Exhaust looks great, magnaflow high flow convertors installed and magnaflow performance muffler location set and ready to go.

Did not go with exhaust cut outs due to space limitations and to maximize the overall set up. 

Very very happy with the custom welding and build quality.

Once the headers get back next week should be ready to go! Bring on the Vroom vroom v8  hemi rumble

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Shaker update ( a prowler first)
The afr shaker arrived this week and looks great. Took about 8 weeks from mich. Its direct injection, built in k&n filter, will pull cold air from above the hood, ports directly to intake in the front of the engine, has full drainage and is self containing. This unit has only been used in challengers in the past. This will be a first for the prowler and will look and deliver high performance and Hp.

This is the best one on the market. http://www.challengertalk.com/forums/f134/afr-shaker-only-true-shaker-pictures-vide o-40365/


The performance innovation team put the hood back on for some initial positioning shots. I approved going in for the hood cut.

Afr created a custom trim ring mold off of the original challenger replacement hood that they normally make and supply for the shaker package.
Initial Pictures are just for positioning only
Every thing will go under the hood.

The only thing that will show is the core gills and top of the unit. The prowler Hood will be cut trimmed and then custom built up to insure a flush fit with the 6.1

Lambo doors a no go
Received lambo doors from vertical doors. Decision was made by the shop to keep it stock in order to insure for the highest quality, safety and overall looks of the car. I Plan on racing and feel it won't be the best fit for the overall build.

Will be returning the kit and keeping it stock.


Hd videos
Also received my new Hd go pro motorsports package. Just like the pros use you can attach it anywhere on the car for live Hd on the road videos. Bring on track day.

With the new hard top I'm pre approved for track days with NASA and
Scda and will learn to really drive the car in classes for fun this summer. http://www.scda1.com/ http://www.nasane.com/

Good progress all of the final parts are in and wiring harness will be there soon. That will allow for a first start up some time in the next month.

Really exciting !

This message has been edited by treyb on 02-23-2012 at 08:07 PM

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I think that the shaker will look killer when it's installed. My initial thought is that you might like it body color, considering its size compared to the hood width.

Coating the headers is a very good choice. Move as much heat out of the engine bay as possible.

It's getting closer...

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Thanks terry actually going with a red on black on chrome theme for the car. Black hardtop, shiny black bumpers (frount and back keeping them on since car will be used on the road and track)black behind TGF side panels, black shaker through the hood.
Everything else red , chrome highlights on other items, new chrome pillar grill. Srt and hemi badges in select areas. Still black on red interior.

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Hand built custom Headers back from Jet hot jet coating. Looking pretty nice. Time to wrap up the exhaust.
Before

After

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Nice looking headers Trey! Jet Hot is great stuff. I used it on complete exhaust systems - including the mufflers - on my airplanes. Some of them were visible as the motors were not covered. They never discolored or flaked over time no matter how high the heat was. It was money well invested. Those headers will look beautiful in your engine compartment. Like a new pair of shoes. Very nice!
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3/7/12
In order to start the car up we still need the custom wiring harness.
The reality is to get the electronics to all work 3 computers have to talk to each other the hemi one, the prowler one and the Trans one.
Should be here soon.

Coated Headers are complete look good. Kat tips are also back on so we are good underneath.

Shaker update
This is one of those big more risky and first time ever parts of the project. The hood got cut so no real turning back.
Just got a first view of the shaker positioned. Fits but does feel from the picture a bit big visually out the crate.

The whole Shaker, direct air flow, saving space, pulling cold air etc is right but it looks like
Its going to require a lot more custom work with the hood and design to pull it off.

The top of the hemi throttle body on the 6.1 already breaks through the stock hood position. So my idea was if we have to cut Through why not make it functional and help perfomance. Afr is the best hemi shaker in the market.

The first 6.1 had a hood scope that brought air inside but not direct and I was mixed on the look

On this one the aim was to do a real shaker.

Big drum roll
So Here is the first picture of the initial shaker positioned in the bay out the box.
Takes up alot of space but goes right into the intake directly in the front of the engine. Has a Built in filter, drains water and much more

Here it is just the first shot through the good before any modifications.
I will say personally As a first pass it does Feel a bit big visually to start but we still have alot of work to do. Hood as to be built up. Trim ring installed and much more. I must admit giving the go to cut this nice hood was not easy at all and some risk. But with risk can also lead to potiential reward
In the end.

Heres what im learning.
Anytime you go custom and doing things that have never been done before it takes alot of risk taking, trial, and pushing the edge of design
And engineering. That's also what makes this whole thing so unique
Challenging And fun. Nothing in this project is easy if so chrysler would have put the V8 in from the factory.

Performance innovations has been great and delivering great results with
Every New challenge.
Still alot more to go but getting closer everyday.

The big difference with this whole blog is its real time, work in progress and real. Most times people go tona car show and you only see the end product and say wow. I decided to do it different and really show what it really takes to get it done for all that maybe interested or even thought about doing something different with such a unique and cool car.

The end product I think will be pretty amazing. It's all work in progress.
Thanks all for the many emails, feedback and support. Thats what makes this site great.


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Wow, and then wow again. I am loving this thread. Are you going down there every few weeks to check on it or are they sending you pics?
You have a lot of nerve, I will say that. I don't know if I could be the first to have my car all cut up and figure they "probably" would be able to pull it off. I sure hope every thing works perfectly once they get to the finish line.
Thanks for all the info, pics and progress reports. It is going to be awesome.
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Your right Ed, believe it or not I kind of experience it like you see it in the posts each week. Im In NJ/NYC car is in north Carolina. If you know me I not normally a big risk taker. This entire project was done way different. I actually shipped the car without even meeting the shop. only talked by phone. I went down only once in dec for the first engine drop in.
Each post and picture it is kind of me sharing the play by play like an announcer from a far. Brendans communication is great we make decisions together. It all comes down to trust and there was somthing about his passion to do it that made me pull the trigger.
Risky it sure is. It's like an episode of chip foose In overhauling or west coast customs but real life with real budgets.

Even if you watch those shows there is a reality behind the build, timelines get changed they have big crews. I have to trust alot and so far so good.

He is very calculating and passionate about the whole thing. That really why I decided to do it.
Even on things like the lambo doors I thought it would be cool. I got it shipped it, they inspected, tested and made the call to not do it to insure the best Overall build Quality and Ended up sending it back.
I'm not posting everything but this is like
A true hollywood story. With alot of trust and commitment on both sides.
I'm in it for good now and plan to go down next time when I can actually drive it.

That's gonna be the big pay off!! Every time I get in it , reflect and hit the streets. 3 words time, money, patience and I guess being a little crazy and adventurous.

From alot of my talks with other prowler owners that took on major projects
There stories are very simular just not online.
5.0s, twin turbos, strokers even the early supercharged guys they all have stories. Mine just became more documented.
Ha ha

Dean from prowlerpro explained it to me best as a builder "its a labor of love" to get into these type of things.

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Thanks for update Trey. It is fun following this, but I glad it's your money and not mine.LOL
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Gary Ed you guys are great. I think I took one my last V6 prowler cruises with you both back in oct at the NYC statue event so from this day forward that my last real drive memory in the car and was a great time. So I feel a bit connected and appriecate all of the support. I look foward to the day of my next drive with just a little more pep in the step.

I'm sure you can imagine the anticipation

Gary as far as the price you are so right.
Here is how it was explained to me from fellow prowler owner eds cat
From flordia that changed my mind.

He compared modifying the Prowler to buying a really nice new custom harley. Not much different and can drive the prowler with 4 wheels.

He also told me about the options and decisions he went through. Prowler is paid for insurance is pretty low and for me with kids only drive once in awhile. What if everytime you drove it was like the ultimate driving experience.

The cost for me to get simular peformance by buying a new vette porsche, fast Camaro, mustang or even a srt 8 is way more and none ever look better or turn heads like a prowler. I plan to keep it forever.

Ed has 150k mikes on his car and smiles everyday that he drives his 5.0 cat. I hope to join the club of folks like him, jordon, terry, Laddie, mike k, milehi , marc 5.0#1 and many others that took risks with the car they had for fun in the future. Some day this summer i hope its me too.

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Trey I know where your coming from on this. I just hope the reliability is still there. It's sounds like they are doing a great job and it will be reliable. You are in to track and road racing more than me, so I know why you wanted to do it. If I had a bad motor or other problems it would be easier to do, but I have a hard time rebuilding a perfectly good car. Might be easier with a cheaper salvage title or high mileage car.Once we all see your Prowler in person and you take us for a ride, who knows how many of us you might convert to the "Hemi Side".

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Trey, in regards to insurance, my company asked if my car had a modified engine. This was not in regards to my prowler but another classic I have. Apparently they look at a modified engine a little differently and sometimes will decline coverage. Not trying to be a fear monger. Just your comment on low insurance costs reminded me. I'm sure you are on top of that.
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I'm with Haggerty and got everything preapproved with the project so should be just fine. Their coverage allows you to Set your limits and I already had the highest allowable amount on the prowler before. It was also already classified as modified in the books.
I informed them upfront on the hemi project and they where great and supportive.i just need to share my final build sheet details on the new components etc so its clear for replacement purposes. This will also allow me increase coverage amounts above standard. I have the details already and it's not that bad.
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Trey what a great build thread.

you stated this isn't everything

Make a CD of all you have on the car build. I did a slideshow of the Dart, you have much more detail, you will be glad you did. I had some help on my slideshow that made it fantastic.

Hope you can see over that hood ........... LOL

It should look great once completed, but you will have to just remember where the right front is cause you are never going to see it.

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wow wow wow
awesome can't wait for a ride lol
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Enzo
You got it. Your close by so will insure you will be one of the first.
I'm sure by posting I will Jinks myself but what the heck my dream goal is to be on the
Race track at Nj motorsports in June with scda http://www.scda1.com/events/detail_by_id/769162037

Track info and riding video http://www.scda1.com/new-jersey-motorsports-park/

Check out the video http://vimeo.com/m/11651044

Never hurts to plan a bit but will do one this summer. There will be a simular gopro video at some point this summer here on POA with a hemi prowler. That's the goal.

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Gotta do Lime Rock as we talked about. I am really proud of the whole deal that you got going here. Hats off to ya, and I am watching, watching, watching..........

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OK PoolKat Lime rock speedway, CT. http://www.scda1.com/lime-rock/
Me and you on the track. Yes Im in for this summer. Should be a blast

If not already all you would need is to have a hard top and a helmet for the day. Lots of great instruction, and its a safe fun day and not competition based.

on the track video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0ZFmlRFZEw

Can't tell you how much it will mean after 6 months or so in a build to actually be on the track and achieve the goal. Its gonna be a hot summer!!

Track layout

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Trey
This is such a great project, I can understand what you mean about spending the money on something you are just so connected too. I wish I was still on the East coast for a ride. I have not been back to NY yet but plan on trying to make it there this year and I am looking forward to seeing some of the East Coast Posse in Vegas.
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Mr mcgoo.
Thanks for the feedback

I think the passion started back in 2002 when CJ set up a tour for us of the Conner ave plant.

I saw prowlers being built from scratch. Like hand assembly and the people where really dedicated to making them, it was amazing.

During this hemi conversion project the car is pretty much stripped and it reminds me of the Tour and same process since every thing is custom. It's like building a brand new prowler. This time the builder is Brendan and the team from performance innovations.

That's me in red. Just another reason to be passionate about the car and performance possibilities of having a true hemi and everything else we are doing to the car.

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I think the passion started back in 2002 when CJ set up a tour for us of the Conner ave plant.

Oh sure.......one more thing to blame me for!!!

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4/16/12 building a custom prowler hood

Now this week was very interesting.
The team spent over a week doing custom fiberglass work to try to build up the hood using the custom trim ring to shape the hood. Overall was not bad but required alot of material and build up to make it to the lip of the shaker. They wanted to insure the highest long term quality for the car. 

As you can see there been alot of custom welding in this project. So Brendan and the team decided to take another route and start over.

The prowler hood is made out of aluminum to save weight. The goal here is to create a custom hood that integrates the shaker into the curves and design.

So they have decided to create a custom aluminum panel to raise the over hood to line up to the shaker so it will look almost like more of a stock piece.

Aluminum can be formed welded and the directly integrated into the current prowler hood.
This can insure for a perminate sealed   solution  as well as provide a rear nice look to the car.

The first step was a custom trim ring.
On the picture below you will see a aluminum ring around the shaker. This set the positioning and build up area that the shaker with come through from the engine.

Then using tape the team laid out the build up outline design form the custom aluminum piece to be built, formed and  attached to the hood. As you can see its slopes only leaving the top of the shaker sticking through. Very creative. See side view

This maybe hard to picture but I really like the concept and think its the best option.

As you can see It's alot of trial and error and testing but shows the creativity and craftsmanship of the shop.

When you see the real piece I think it will really connect. Aluminum Forming and welding to kick off next week.

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Wow, that appears to be a lot of work. Those guys sure don't shy away from trying something new. It will be interesting to see the finished hood.
Good luck and I hope it keeps moving forward at a rapid pace.
Thanks for posting those pics, that is a major mod.

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