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Technical Questions & Answers Make sure your Battery is not loose! (PICTURES) (Page 1)
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Dale Beaman POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lexington, KY, USA |
posted 08-04-2005 09:54 PM
At the Dells I was having electrical problems and they were related to the OEM battery not being clamped down at the factory. I can't give any details as I am still working on getting it resolved. I will only say that 3 different dealers have looked at the car in the past 1 1/2 years and each time messed with the battery but never clamped it down. I am optimistic that it will be resolved fairly as the dealer indicates that the repairs will be covered under the extended warrenty. Just check your battery as this has caused a major problem and getting it fixed out of warrenty would have cost at least $2,000. This message has been edited by Dale Beaman on 08-12-2005 at 02:28 PM |
TooHipCat POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Londonderry,NH |
posted 08-04-2005 10:13 PM
Thanks for the tip Dale! Brian |
enduro POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Milwaukee, WI, USA |
posted 08-05-2005 06:27 PM
Funny you should mention this. The morning I was getting ready to leave for the Dells, I was doing a quick lookover of the car and noticed that my battery was loose. Granted, I did replace the stock battery this spring, however it wasn't loose the last time I checked - go figure. I can't come up with a logical explanation why the stock battery stayed in place for 5+ years, and the replacement didn't move for another 3000+ miles, and it just decided to loosen up. I guess I'll have to keep a better eye on it in the future. Now, the real question is - You drove your car to the Dells and discovered that your battery had loosened up. You got in my car for a cruise while yours was in the shop and my battery had just loosened up. Is this a coincidence, or is there some evil force at work here. LOL |
GenoTex POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Oakfield, WI, USA |
posted 08-06-2005 06:36 AM
Could it be Dale's heavy right foot? I didn't think they'd extend up that far?!?!??! |
Dale Beaman POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lexington, KY, USA |
posted 08-06-2005 07:57 PM
Enduro, If I can cast a spell like that I will start charging Prowler owners a fee to keep me from doing it! It will be much cheaper than the cost to get one fixed if the same thing happens that happened to mine!! Geno - I got long legs but not that long. |
Dale Beaman POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lexington, KY, USA |
posted 08-12-2005 08:54 AM
I finally got my Kat back after a week and a half at the dealer. The dealer tried to make me pay saying it was my fault but after much discussion with him and the warrenty contact(Chrysler MaxCare) I only had to pay the $100 deductible. I would not wish this on anyone. AC is going to have Lethia post some pictures later BUT don't look at them if you have a weak stomach!! DO look at them if you are worried about what could become a major and very expensive repair. Send me an email and I can send additional pictures. This message has been edited by Dale Beaman on 08-12-2005 at 10:20 AM |
L. E. CAT 2 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Mesa, Arizona |
posted 08-12-2005 09:59 AM
Pictures of Dale's replaced parts: |
ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 08-12-2005 10:05 AM
Top picture is the same problem I had a few years back,,,,,about 3" down from the positive post, the cable rubbed a hole in the bottom side of positive cable where it bends down and over the battery casing,,,,,thus letting excess corrosion to build up in positive cable = cat went 'dead' in the water on the street. |
Dale Beaman POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lexington, KY, USA |
posted 08-12-2005 10:09 AM
L.E.Cat2, thanks for posting the pictures. Based on my experience I would suggest the following: Dale |
pumpkin POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Visit Waleke's World Personal ScrapBook From:Las Cruces, NM, USA |
posted 08-12-2005 12:00 PM
Great info. |
Kevin A POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Gahanna, Ohio |
posted 08-12-2005 03:25 PM
quote: Was all of this required to be replaced because of a loose battery? What exactly is this a picture of? Kevin |
rraite POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:lawton, oklahoma |
posted 08-12-2005 03:46 PM
looks like the wiring harness to me |
Fat Pat POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Blue Springs, Missouri, USA |
posted 08-12-2005 04:45 PM
Looks like my 1st wiring job...geeez, talk about poor quality!! |
catfish POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:scottsdale,az,usa |
posted 08-12-2005 05:11 PM
my positive cable looks like that also,from the day i bought it.after the dealer said there was nothing wrong w/cable,it has rust,or corrosion spots on it.i finally got real curious and cut a slit in the cable to see if it was really corroded inside ,it wasnt.resealed cut and has been ok.never found any holes in cable either. ------------------ |
GRROWL POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Herndon, VA |
posted 08-12-2005 07:17 PM
quote: SOMETIMES I give good advice: http://www.prowleronline.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001479.html quote: |
Dale Beaman POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lexington, KY, USA |
posted 08-12-2005 07:49 PM
Kevin A, If the positive cable needs to be replaced it is the whole engine compartment wiring harness! Look at the second picture and on the left are two red cables/wires. That is the connection to the positive terminal of the battery. When cars are out of warranty I would think that all that is needed would be to splice in two new cables if possible or to clean and cover the bad spots like AC did. The 64 million (billion now) question would be why did Chrysler design it this way and why is the fit so tight that the cable rubs on the edge of the battery? Dale This message has been edited by Dale Beaman on 08-13-2005 at 10:19 AM |
quincy POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Fairfield Glade, TN. USA |
posted 08-12-2005 08:25 PM
OH MY GOD!!! I can't believe it! First thing in the am I am going to check my battery. Hard to believe the entire harness had to be replaced for a positive battery cable. I agree with Grrowl.....when my battery gives up the Optima is going in...maybe even sooner! |
ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 08-12-2005 08:49 PM
Just by chance,,,,my Mopar battery went dead this past week. Tomorrow morning a new Red Top Optima Group 34 is going into the silver cat. Hoping that with no chemical fumes to promote corrosion, this should be an improvement over the original battery. Where the positive cable bridges over the battery casing,,,,I'm putting a piece of stiff foam pad or a piece of thick clear tubing over the red cable. |
txgold POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lancaster, Texas, U.S.A. |
posted 08-12-2005 09:58 PM
Who sells the OPTIMA battery ? I had to clean my positive battery terminal today of all corrosion. No cable problem found. |
ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 08-12-2005 10:29 PM
http://www.optimabatteries.com/publish/optima/americas0/en/config/brand.html Optima batteries are found at Costco [best prices], and at many auto parts stores like NAPA and Carquest This message has been edited by ALLEY CAT on 08-12-2005 at 10:31 PM |
GenoTex POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Oakfield, WI, USA |
posted 08-13-2005 07:03 AM
Drove back over to the Dells yesterday, and here is their new logo as you enter town.... strange, eh? |
Dale Beaman POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lexington, KY, USA |
posted 08-13-2005 10:25 AM
Grrowl & AC, One of you used a group 75 and the other a 34. What is the difference? Thanks |
ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 08-13-2005 10:36 AM
Dale - the red top group 34 #8002 has just the single top posts for [ - ] [ + ] use. I believe the group 75 is the one that has both the top posts and side post combo unit >>> it sometimes is $5 to $10 higher in cost because it is more universal in its application. If just going to use in the Prowler, group 34 top post only will work just fine Dale. Going outside to install mine now! UPDATE: WENT right into place,,,,,no modifications needed. Put stock battery hold-down in place,,,but DON'T overtighten >>>> as per Optima instruction sheet. This message has been edited by ALLEY CAT on 08-13-2005 at 02:11 PM |
1buddyc POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:San Antonio Texas USA |
posted 08-13-2005 10:36 AM
Dale, did the Dealer let you keep your old, damaged harness? Buddy |
GRROWL POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Herndon, VA |
posted 08-13-2005 10:38 AM
quote: My complete installation report is over at http://www.prowleronline.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001479.html The main advantage of the 75 is availability and price (and it may even fit a bit better): Costco, under $100, no trade required. It fit perfectly without compromise. Also take a look at the referenced post about forcing the lower battery lip under the hold-down. My conclusion from the other post: quote: |
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