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posted 08-16-2005 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chromer     send a private message to Chromer   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Chromer
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Chromer:
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Chromer - I was stuck out in rush hour traffic when my cat went dead,,,,,,people bitching and honking,,,you know. You don't feel too proud of your Prowler when that happens!! All I remember was that when I was playing with the red cable, I felt something falling into my hand. It was corrosion coming out of the cable like sand. I couldn't see under the cable from that position, but I could feel a hole about the half the size of a aspirin tablet on the underside. When I got a connection back and the cat started, I got it to the dealership service department before they closed. The next time I seen the cat, it was repaired the next day. It definitely was rubbing against the battery casing, and caused a hole in the positive cable. The strange thing was that the + post of the battery showed no corrosion
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AC- corrosion likes copper better than lead- that's why it went to the cable and not the terminal, once the cable insulator was worn through...Buddy
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posted 08-16-2005 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALLEY CAT     send a private message to ALLEY CAT   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ALLEY CAT
Thanks Buddy,,,,so there was a reason for that

While I have your attention,,,,what do you think of that red battery 'protector' spray stuff?

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quote:
Originally posted by ALLEY CAT:
what do you think of that red battery 'protector' spray stuff?

If that's a question to the general audience . . . .

You don't need it with the Optima.

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Should the "corroded" area be treated with a baking soda neutralizer solution prior to repair with shrink cover?

I've always used baking soda mixed with water to stop the chemical reaction white powder stuff on the battery terminals.

Anyone?

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posted 08-17-2005 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALLEY CAT     send a private message to ALLEY CAT   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ALLEY CAT
Steve - yes, it was a general question to the vast herd who read the board, lol. I should have been more specific and asked opinions about using it on the ancient, out dated, lead/acid batteries.


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Chromer - that is what I've always done in the past, used water and baking soda mixed. Now, there are spray battery corrosion cleaners on the market that are easier to use. Cheaper to stick with the old remedy.

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Every other time that I check my tire pressures,,,,,,I check the condition of the battery posts and cables. Putting that calendar that you gets from the tax man or auto parts store,,,out in the garage, helps keep track of vehicle maintenance.

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I have a 2000 (10,000 miles) and I did replace the battery a year ago, but the positive cable looks new and it doesn't even touch the battery (lies about 1/4 inch above) except where the positive terminal is connected. The battery was also firmly attached to the battery tray. Is this a specific problem on '99s and maybe later yrs where upon battery replacement, the new battery had terminals different that the oem battery, front vs rear?

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Richard - everything in your pic looks good,,,, if your red cable isn't rubbing on the battery casing while bending downward. What do you mean about different terminals on the new battery? Looks like the OEM setup to me. Does your new battery also have 'side' terminals as well?
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My '97 has only one red cable coming from the battery and it's got corregated plastic sheathing covering the cable. Doesn't come close to contacting the battery. Are all the '97's like that or am I just lucky
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This is what makes prowleronline so great! I checked my 2000 with 35,000 miles last night and found the cable was worn thru to the wire. I cleaned up everything and taped a small section of split rubber hose over the rub area. Hope that I have caught it in time. The original battery is still fine for now, but will be switching to an Optima this fall.
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Richard,
One thing I noticed is that you positive cable is not connected to the frame (note hole in the middle of the frame member) but shouldn't be a problem, but the red cable is real close to the spring on the shock.

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Originally posted by ALLEY CAT:
Thanks Buddy,,,,so there was a reason for that

While I have your attention,,,,what do you think of that red battery 'protector' spray stuff?


AC dont use it, it gets all over, and will stain the aluminum, hard to get off.
>but if use sealed gel cell(optima/equiv.) NOT needed as Grrowl stated!

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AC, he made Sandy do it while we were out galavanting around with Andy.

Dale, both red cables are wrapped in corrugated plastic (oem) when they exit through a hole to the rear, and it looks pretty well protected.

Richard

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Checked on Saturday as promised. Guess what! Yep, the cable was rubbing on the edge of the battery case, and yes the cable insulation was worn away, but not to the core wire. Yep, I added three layers of wound electrical tape to the offending area. Good Post!! Easier to prevent a major issue than cure it!!
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Thanks for the heads up guys ... My positive wire was worn , not to bad, but enough to put some protection on it to stop further wearing on the edge of the battery...
I took a peice of yellow gas line tubing about 2" long , split it lengthways , slipped it over the worn area then covered it in electrical tape....Good To Go !!

you guys are great !!!!!!

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I'm at work and can't check the 97, but I don't recall seeing a corrugated cable cover sheath on mine. I was thinking everyone's cable was rubbing on the frame where it goes thru. Mine has a little foam pad at that location. I'll have to look at mine again closer next time.

AC - the red spray works ok for a while. Maybe spray down those cloth terminal donuts remotely before putting them on and it may cut down on any staining/mess issues Rich posted.

I remember using the aged baking soda and water to reduce corrosion, but I have found that a liberal amount of Vaseline on the post before attaching the cable stops any further corrosion and won't need to be reapplied unless you disconnect the battery at some point. (Go ahead AC - take your best shot...)

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idive....
you've opened up a can of worms now....as long as he doesn't connect the vaseline idea to the Cornhole thread we'll be OK....

Dohhhh !

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come on AC were waiting , for reply to idive!
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I was also wondering if the '97s were different, as mine doesn't look like all the other pictures on here. It only has a single cable on the positive terminal and it is wrapped in a black plastic sheathing where it is connected to the frame. No problem with cable wear at all.

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Sure hope the tie-wrap retainer clips are available or some equivalent?

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Ken - this company >>> http://www.motormite.com/Help.html makes just about everything. I'll check at work,,,,you might ask them direct.

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I checked my cable and it looks OK, but it was rubbing the corner of the battery. I slid the positive terminal red boot down to act as a barrier/buffer against the corner.

My question, is this OK to do? What function does this red boot serve (safety from shock?) I added a tap off of the positive terminal to feed juice to my undercar lighting and since then the boot will not fit properly anyway. Is this a problem?

Thanks to all.

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Kevin- The Red Boot is designed to keep moisture off the terminal. Moisture causes corrosion to start...The way your battery looks, keeping the terminal clean and dry wont be a problem with the Boot not on. And if you loosen your cable and rotate it from the 9:00 o'clock position to the 10:00 o'clock position there wont be any contact at all with the battery case. Somebody else suggested that and it worked for me. Buddy

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Buddy, Thanks!

I try to dry off the battery when I wash it. At 5000 miles it still looks pretty much like new.


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