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Dale Beaman

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posted 08-13-2005 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale Beaman     send a private message to Dale Beaman   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Dale Beaman
Buddy,
I asked the service writer and he would not let me have it saying that Chrysler wanted it returned. When I picked up the Kat and was taking the pictures I asked the tech to let me have it because he was going to throw it away in a few weeks and he said that they keep them to cut up for the connectors! I wish I knew someone at DC who would contact the dealer and let me have it before it is destroyed. Is their someone out there who can help?
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Steve - you got shorted with that group 75 Optima,,,having only 720 CCA. The group 34 has 800 CCA = more power! I need that extra CCA out here in the desert

BTW - Costco raised their prices now,,,were $99, now $103. Still, that is better than the auto parts stores,,,,,I know.

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Dale, Yes, they will keep it in the parts department backroom for a month or so to see if DC asks for a return on it. My guess is DC will not want it returned

Go back to that parts department,,,find the person who holds and sends the warranty crap back to DC,,,,and tell them it's worth a free lunch to them IF they call you before tossing it in the trash down the road. That works for me at a local Dodge dealer >>> I've bought the guy three lunches already Tell them that you want any window regulators and shocks replaced also.

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AC hit the nail on the head, Dale. Most warranty Clerks in the Parts Depts. are EASY...(LOL)
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I checked my battery cable this morning and sure enough
it was warn thru were it rubs on the battery!
the battery was tight but still wore thru!
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I had reported that this problem happened to me back in the spring of '02,,,,,and not many paid attention. Now,,more of you might want to keep an eye on this expensive situation. It wouldn't be a good thing to see a run on Prowler positive cable wire harnesses

This message has been edited by ALLEY CAT on 08-14-2005 at 11:31 PM

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I checked my almost new BT with 3500 miles on it and found the cable insulation worn more than half way through. Thanks for the heads up.
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OK ...... you guys all made me nervous, so I went out to check my battery. It was securely fastened, but I noticed quite a bit of corrosion around the terminals and the hold down nut and clamp. I also noticed that the battery was a bit wet on top. Further inspection showed that the battery acid had apparently been getting on some of the aluminum frame around the battery compartment. Some slight pitting of the aluminum had been going on there. After cleaning it up, I sprayed the aluminum with some WD-40. The battery had been overfilled. Probably at the last oil change, by one of the grease monkeys they have working there.

I pulled the battery, put the level where it belongs, cleaned up all the corrosion and put grease on all the fasteners and clamps, before putting it back together.

Any way, thanks for making me look. My next battery is also going to be of the Gel Variety.

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Went out and checked mine tonight. The Kat has 8,500 miles and you can feel where it was wearing through the insulation. It was not through the insulation yet. Thanks for the heads up.
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posted 08-16-2005 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tomer     send a private message to tomer   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by tomer
So what did you guys do who found their cable insulation to be partly worn through? I have an 02 Kandy Kat with 3500 miles on her, and the cable has a slight indent where it rubs on the battery...The zip tie is the culprit on the aluminum frame...I rotated the positive cable from 9 o'clock to 10 o'clock, and now there is 1/2" between the lower red cable and the batt...THANKS!!!
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tomer,
That is the right thing to do. Even the tech who replaced my cable put the new one on so that is was rubbing!?!
I did what you suggested and now it doesn't touch the battery at all.

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All- Just read this post and decided to go out and "check" mine. WHOA!! mine was rubbing through too!!

Just took these pictures...

What's the best way to repair?

As the post says: DO NOT ALLOW CABLES TO CONTACT BATTERY !!

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Chromer - when I took my silver back to a dealership for this problem [actually died in the street],,,it was still under 3/36 warranty. Service department called me that afternoon and said the car was ready. I asked if they 'replaced' the positive cable,,at the time not knowing if involved the huge wiring harness. They said NO, that DC wouldn't approve replacement of the $800 wiring harness. When I picked up the cat, I wanted to see what they done first. They showed me what they did: stripped back and off several inches of the red rubber cable coating, cleaned out the corrosion, put a shrink tube around the cable and heated it up, and finally added electrical tape around that patched area. At the time, I was P.O. and told them that was nothing more than a Band-Aid fix. They agreed, but said that was what DC told them to do >>> spend the least amount of $$$ to fix the problem. I haven't had any problems since then, but I can't see inside the cable to know if any corrosion has spread either. Time will tell,,,since I'm on the extended warranty I will take it down to the last month, open up their previous Band-Aid fix, examine the cable, and go from there. Since that time, on both cats,,, I bend the positive cable up and off the battery casing and now have placed some stiff foam piece between the battery and the + cable as a spacer. Hope that answers your question.
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Originally posted by Mike Downey:
Went out and checked mine tonight. The Kat has 8,500 miles and you can feel where it was wearing through the insulation. It was not through the insulation yet. Thanks for the heads up.

Ditto on the heads up!!!!, looks like saved me before damage
I cut my zip ty so it wont pull down on the SHORT pos+ ca , found excessive corrosion on the post, and small indent on the ca. where touches the battery,
I also put a sheath around the cable all the way down thru the holeby the rubber at the radiater, should help!

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Just checked my Kat...u guys got me nervous...00' black kat with 900 miles on it (plus one road trip that was 1000 miles) = 1900 miles on her...AND IT IS WORN THROUGH!!!! The "small dent" in the cable that is mentioned above is actually worn to the cable...SO, is my best bet to cut back the positive cable a few inches and splice new cable on so it will reach the battery terminal??? OR JUST CLEAN THE TERMINAL ENDS AND COVER THE "DENTED" AREA??? AS ALWAYS YOUR ADVICE IS VALUED. THANKS!!!!
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On my '97, the cable comes straight off the top of the battery without any bend at all. Must be different on the later models.

In any case, if I had a dimpled cable, I would cut a short piece of rubber fuel line, split it all along one side and wrap it around the cable. Then either wrap it with electrical tape or some heat shrink tubing to keep it in place. This stuff has about a 1/8 thick wall and should keep the cable out of harms way for a long time.

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Kraut,
I agree and everyone should do that as a preventive measure.

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Alley Cat did you get your battery at Costco??? The ones in FL only have the 75 model.
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Looked at mine and found a mild indent in the cable insulation from contact with corner of the battery. Tomer's idea is a good one, slight rotation of the cable relieves pressure on the cable. Great catch Dale.
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I did the same as Toner. Rotate the positive cable a little. Does the trick.
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Originally posted by Maverick:
Alley Cat did you get your battery at Costco??? The ones in FL only have the 75 model.

Use the 75 - it fits better and has more cranking power than the original.

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Maverick - if the Optima they have is a combo top post/side post unit [34/75],,,,it will work just fine. Just leave the side post 'plugs' in place.

6 year warranty - 3 year free replacement,,,,,SAVE THE RECEIPT!!!

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Originally posted by ALLEY CAT:
Chromer - when I took my silver back to a dealership for this problem [actually died in the street],,,it was still under 3/36 warranty. Service department called me that afternoon and said the car was ready. I asked if they 'replaced' the positive cable,,at the time not knowing if involved the huge wiring harness. They said NO, that DC wouldn't approve replacement of the [B]$800 wiring harness. When I picked up the cat, I wanted to see what they done first. They showed me what they did: stripped back and off several inches of the red rubber cable coating, cleaned out the corrosion, put a shrink tube around the cable and heated it up, and finally added electrical tape around that patched area. At the time, I was P.O. and told them that was nothing more than a Band-Aid fix. They agreed, but said that was what DC told them to do >>> spend the least amount of $$$ to fix the problem. I haven't had any problems since then, but I can't see inside the cable to know if any corrosion has spread either. Time will tell,,,since I'm on the extended warranty I will take it down to the last month, open up their previous Band-Aid fix, examine the cable, and go from there. Since that time, on both cats,,, I bend the positive cable up and off the battery casing and now have placed some stiff foam piece between the battery and the + cable as a spacer. Hope that answers your question.[/B]


AC...thanks for the your thorough reply. Was your cable in better or worse shape than this one? I really don't see much, if any corrosion?

JUST when I think I "know just about everything" aboout these cars..I read a post that is very helpful and may have prevented me from being stranded...Geezzz..I love POA


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Just put in a new battery and also rotated the cable and should be good to go for the Dream Cruise.

I could not find a Optima locally without ordering it so I bought a Deka "Intimidator". They claim it is the same type as the Optima but better. It was $90 vs the $120 I was quoted for the Optima. I did have to put on a longer negative cable that cost $4. Time will tell. I just wanted to get rid of the OEM type battery with the corrosion problem.

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