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Author | Topic: 6.1 Hemi Prowler |
spoons POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:West Palm Beach, FL |
posted 03-13-2009 07:01 PM
The 6.1L looks damn good in there! I hope she won't be a trailer queen. When you get it running and drive it 500+ miles please post reliability and heating issues. We can all learn from this experience and I could see more conversions in the future. Did you have to change the spring & shocks up front to handle the extra weight? How much heavier is the 6.1L V8 over the 3.5L V6? |
dbudner Prowler Junkie From:Dallas, Ga. USA |
posted 03-13-2009 09:24 PM
No replacement for displacement |
hi-tech Prowler Newbie From:Cumberland, Maine |
posted 03-14-2009 08:38 AM
Hi all. I'm new to posting on this board but have been reading since day one. I own this car and I'm paying for this project. As you all can see there is no need to defend Brendan, but I'm getting sick of the over heating talk.For the guy with all the years of wisdom I would take a minute go to the Evans Coolant cite and read. This waterless system has been used for years,some motors can run without a radiator, which brings new meaning to the phrase "COOL". I run a fleet with thier products and have for years its a non issue. |
MeanGene POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Burtonsville, MD |
posted 03-14-2009 10:08 AM
Brandon - Hi Tech, Keep the info coming... many on this site would definitely like an "alternative" to the V-6. Looks sweet in the bay. |
performance_innovations Prowler Newbie From:Wilmington NC |
posted 03-14-2009 12:41 PM
Are there not moderators on this forum? Can some guy really just call everyone and idiot and bad mouth someone without a reason? Most internet forums censor this type of behavior, it wouldn't look very good to a new member reading thru possibly the "coolest" post in the performance section to see all this 5 year old banter by these self proclaimed "ethugs". I wish i could buy them a plane ticket to fly here to Wilmington to my shop to talk to my face like they would on the internet. I guarentee you the ticket would expire. Now hopefully once we are past this we can actually talk about my project with Ken's prowler. We have been making good progress on the car. Not much to take pics of but a bunch of little things things that are tedious and need to be done. I was hoping to keep the driveshaft length the same and not alter its location or length. .... But its not going to work that way, and still be able to fit a supercharger on the front without moving the radiator. So we are keeping the driveshaft in the same location, but just shortening it approx 8" We also fabricated our custom bellhousing adapater to mate half of the prowler bellhousing to the 6.1 hemi motor. It utilizes the prowler flex plate adpater and pilot shaft that fits perfectly in the pilot bearing in the crankshaft of the 6.1 motor. I should have some more pics this week worthy of posting on the internet. |
Marty Usher POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:San Antonio, Texas, United States |
posted 03-14-2009 01:08 PM
catfish - I hope your reference to idiots on the PT website doesn't create another "site war". It seems that for quite a while now both sites are co-existing without a lot of drama. As someone that posts on both sites, I believe comments like your's are uncalled for and just show what kind of class you have. As far as the OP's project - I think it is very cool. Although I am pretty sure he expects to run into the unexpected as the project develops, I would feel quite sure a project of this magnatude would not be attempted without thoughts to computer compatibility, cooling systems, frame strength, drivetrain issues, etc. I for one look forward to reading more about it and wish him great success..... |
performance_innovations Prowler Newbie From:Wilmington NC |
posted 03-14-2009 01:47 PM
Regarding the shock and spring rates Shocks themselves are simply gas/fluid assited dampeners. They don't care how much weight is placed on them(to a certain degree) All they do is dampen the up and down movement of the springs so the vehicle doesn't bounce around on the road. The hemi motor weighs about 80lbs more than the v6, we aren't running a/c so there about 15 lbs gone from the car, also the cats are gone, another 8 lbs. There isn't much concern with the weight difference, it will handle just like you have a passenger in the car, not a big deal, not big enough of a deal requiring a spring rate change, this isn't a forumla one race car, its a daily driven sports car with a HUUGGE motor in it. He's not trying to shave .01 seconds off his lap times. I took many many many suspension engineering classes, many many, You can spend your whole life studying suspension setups. You can also spend your whole life critizing everyone else's setups. Would everybody change their springs if they gave their overweight neighboor a ride? That said overweight passenger could possibly add up to 300lbs (it would be fun to see a 300lb person get in the prowler, I'm 200 6' and can barley get in with the door wide open, my heads puts a dimple in the convertible top when driving) to the weight. You see what I'm getting at? |
Marty Usher POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:San Antonio, Texas, United States |
posted 03-14-2009 03:51 PM
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99prowler99 Prowler Junkie From:Fountain Valley Ca USA |
posted 03-14-2009 06:12 PM
Must be the seat adjustment because I'm 6'2 205 and I fit just fine. Its not the easiest car to get in and out of but once in, I fit just fine without my head touching the top and room to spare. |
onecatnodog Prowler Junkie From:arvada,co,usa |
posted 03-14-2009 07:07 PM
The Mile Hi Hemi Prowler had to have the cats to be Emission legal to make it eligible for plates here in Colorado.. They do a visual plus a tail pipe test here in Colorado when testing.. The factory Hemi pan was shortened for ground clearance and will be something that you will want to think about Brendan.. The Mile Hi Hemi Prowler now holds 10 quarts of oil with the trick modded alum. oil pan and baffles were constructed inside to help keep the oil were it needs to be.. The Headers were hand made also and then Hot coated along with the whole exhaust system.. In making the headers ourself we were able to keep the factory ground clearance with out raising the engine allowing it to fit under the Factory Hood... This is all that I will share at this time as this thread is about a yellow Prowler but not The Mile Hi Hemi Prowler... Stick with it Brendan as it has been done and it's always interesting to see how others do things.. Welcome to the site! John(onecatnodog)Collins |
attyedhall POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:midwest usa |
posted 03-15-2009 08:34 AM
very interesting project. best of luck with it.. If you pull this off, i can envision a line of prowlers around your shop waiting for their conversion. as these cars get older, many may opt for this kind of upgrade if its costs competetive as opposed to rebuilds on the original engines. again... best of luck and keep us posted. i enjoy reading about the process..... |
cnote6 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Dallas, TX |
posted 03-15-2009 08:47 AM
quote: I second this. |
cnote6 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Dallas, TX |
posted 03-15-2009 08:52 AM
If I do not sell the Prowler and the price of them stay soft. I may just have one built with a V8. So please keep posting, I will be reading. |
spoons POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:West Palm Beach, FL |
posted 03-15-2009 10:23 AM
Perf Inno, I agree, you wuld not change the spring rate for 50-100lbs. I have seen some hot rods at shows where the spring rate is so bad the car seems to bouce down the street.
The custom oil pan and exhaust look trick! Aluminum oil pan will disapate the heat better than a steel one. Nice work and keep the photos coming. Cnote, I see you having a hardtime selling your cat....if I didn't have mine already I would buy yours. $38k and it's all tricked out. Why not sell the trailer with it to? |
Jim C Prowler Junkie From:Corona, Ca |
posted 03-15-2009 12:48 PM
What are those fasteners on the nose surrounding the Tom Mills bumper replacement signal lights, is that how they attach the other kits with? not a very clean installation especially if you wanted to put your bumpers back on. Kudos to Tom Mills on a clean design for installation. |
catfish POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:scottsdale,az,usa |
posted 03-16-2009 01:21 PM
this is to the few hypocritical troublemakers on the other site.i remember back about 6 or months ago when one of you posted some really nasty crap about me on your site,i was told about it,but never read about it.i never heard one person say you owe this guy an apology.where were you buddy and snow, not one,and you want me to apologize,aint going to happen to you guys.the other non trouble makers i apoligize,if that upset you.i should have worded it differently.you few over there are hypocrites pure and simple.if the shoe fits wear it.thats one of the reasons you were kicked off this site.hi tec.i hope your car turns out ok,from previous exp.it will overheat.time will tell,and ive said all im going to say,and am cancelling my subscription to the other site,i like to hang around nice people. ------------------ |
cnote6 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Dallas, TX |
posted 03-16-2009 01:37 PM
quote: This is the last time it will be on Ebay. I was thinking over the weekend and watching a few Prowler video's, I want to keep her. The V8 thing would be a long time down the road, I love the car as it is now. Guess not driving it for a long time can make you wonder why you have it. This Prowler is a keeper. Thanks |
catfish POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:scottsdale,az,usa |
posted 03-16-2009 01:41 PM
cnote you made the right decision on keeping it. ------------------ |
prowlrman Prowler Junkie From:Phoenix, AZ USA |
posted 03-16-2009 02:47 PM
Chris, Congrats on your new Charger (from your other post), but keeping the Prowler is what you should also do. As long as you have the room, the Prowler will always be "special" and yours is one hell of a car with all the mods you have done. And for the Hemi Prowler project...BEST WISHES FOR SUCCESS!! No reason why you can't get it done...where there's a will, there's a way...Let's be honest..this is just another motor installed in an engine compartment..and hot rodders have done that over and over...time and time again. Never let it be said it cannot be done...at least for me the word "cannot" doesn't exist in my dictionary! This message has been edited by prowlrman on 03-16-2009 at 03:42 PM |
Tom Santella Prowler Junkie From:Sandy Hook Ct. USA |
posted 03-23-2009 10:04 AM
This has got to be THE koolest of all mods to the Prowler. Good luck with everything, I hope it goes well. In a perfect world, I would do this conversion, and I may yet. ------------------ |
phil2237 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:PLACENTIA CALIFORNIA |
posted 03-23-2009 07:48 PM
Just for the record, The Southern California Prowler Members do alot of get togethers with the P/T Cruiser group, We just came home from Laughlin Nevada after judging their National car show there. Will also be at their annual picnic in May. Bunch of Fantastic People ! As far as the Hemi......I have also seen the Hemi P/T Cruiser, Added 2 rows to the radiator and had NO problem with heating up. This is one beautiful car, The firewall was moved back to fit, The owner of the car did all the work himself, and did one Fantastic job , as the car looked like it came right out of the factory that way . This message has been edited by phil2237 on 03-23-2009 at 07:50 PM |
spoons POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:West Palm Beach, FL |
posted 04-01-2009 07:19 PM
Any updates? Post video and pics when completed |
JOYRIDE POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Moncton N.B. Canada |
posted 04-02-2009 06:39 PM
Man: Theirs some smart people out there: Good luck and keep up the good work |
onecatnodog Prowler Junkie From:arvada,co,usa |
posted 04-04-2009 06:38 PM
Ok Spoons.. This is from my files of movies and pictures of Roy's Hemi Prowler here in Colorful Colorado... The trans plant has and can be done and with a little work I'm sure that Brendan will be able to do so as he has done many Hemi transplants in other vehicles... Brendan and I have talked and E mailed many times as I played dumb (which isn't to hard for me to do) to see if he was legit... Tony Squire the man that makes the wiring harness for the Hemi conversion on many vehicles told me that Brendan is a customer of his, so that proved to me that he is legit.. I am holding off on posting all that I have on the Mile Hi (under the hood) Hemi Prowler until it passes the Trail Ridge Road test this Spring. I will do so under my own topic... Then and only then the whole story will be told about Roy's car... Good or Bad... Enjoy the two short videos! Click to play.... onecatnodog [IMG]http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f65/onecatnodog/Hemi%20Prowler/th_dsc f1762.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f65/onecatnodog/Hemi%20Prowler/th_dsc f1765.jpg[/IMG] |
dbudner Prowler Junkie From:Dallas, Ga. USA |
posted 04-05-2009 07:45 AM
Roy's prowler sounds pretty decent. Personally, I would swapped in a cam so that it had a little lope. Still, the cool factor is there. I'm sure Brendan will do a jam up job too. I'll see if my cousin will go by and get us an update since he lives in Wilmington. This is definitely how these should have been done in the first place. It's great some true hot rodders are taking this on. Hopefully it will be affordable (within reason). Thanks guys and gals. |
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