HOME PAGE OWNERS REGISTRY DISCUSSION FORUMS PROWLER STORE CONTACT 10th Anniv Wallpaper ABOUT
Prowler-Parts.Com Prowler Products By Gary Tom Mills / Jefferson Auto Prowler-Products Trunks
Prowler-Parts.Com Call Gary E at Prowler Products By Gary - Formerly Carlini Design Call Tom for the BEST Park/Turn Signal Relocation Kit Custom Travel Trunks by Prowler-Products

Click here to return to the Prowler Online Board Main Page
  ProwlerOnline, Plymouth/Chrysler Prowler Discussion Forum
  Prowler Performance/Appearance Discussion
  6.1 Hemi Prowler (Page 1)

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
edit profile | register | preferences | faq | search

ProwlerFriend: Email This Page to Someone!     Click to print this page    Bottom of Page
This topic is 4 pages long:   1  2  3  4 
next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   6.1 Hemi Prowler
performance_innovations
Prowler Newbie

From:Wilmington NC
Registered: Nov 2008
Admin Use

posted 02-25-2009 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for performance_innovations     send a private message to performance_innovations   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by performance_innovations
Well i posted a little while back about doing the Hemi prowler swap at my shop.

Here is our latest project now. Its a 1999 Prowler, it already was pretty quick when it came into the shop as it already had a paxton supercharger on it. It also has the prowler pro gears installed.


Here's where we are at now with it. Its all stripped down and the wiring harness has been removed to be integrated with the Hemi harness.



The plans as of now are: brand new 6.1 Hemi crate motor, custom stainless headers (1.675" primaries), 3" stainless true dual exhaust with magnaflow performance mufflers, Install the paxton supercharger and wiring modifications.

I'm also going to be developing a Big Brake kit using 14" rotors and 6 piston calipers for the front. This kit will go into production after we test this prowler.

More to come!!

katmat

POA Site Supporter
Prowler Junkie

From:palos park illinois usa
Registered: Dec 2005
Admin Use

posted 02-25-2009 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katmat     send a private message to katmat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by katmat
Looks like you have your work cut out for you! Keep us posted & keep the pics.coming.
DFOTOPRO


POA Site Supporter
Prowler Junkie

From:Redlands, Ca
Registered: Jun 2007
Admin Use

posted 02-25-2009 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DFOTOPRO     send a private message to DFOTOPRO   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by DFOTOPRO
what are you doing with the old motor and supercharger????

dj

BradleyG


POA Site Supporter
Prowler Junkie

From:Dallas, Texas
Registered: Dec 2004
Admin Use

posted 02-25-2009 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BradleyG     send a private message to BradleyG   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by BradleyG
Hey Brendan, It is great to see you post. This will be very interesting to watch and I wish you great success in this project. I hope we can leave our crayons in their box on this post. LOL!!

Thanks for keeping us updated... Brad

pumpkin


POA Site Supporter
Prowler Junkie
Visit Waleke's World
Personal ScrapBook

From:Las Cruces, NM, USA
Registered: Dec 2001
Admin Use

posted 02-25-2009 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pumpkin     send a private message to pumpkin   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by pumpkin
Sweet.
ProwlerBobWpg

Prowler Junkie

From:Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Registered: Jan 2008
Admin Use

posted 02-26-2009 02:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ProwlerBobWpg     send a private message to ProwlerBobWpg   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ProwlerBobWpg
A fellow here in Winnipeg (Canada) who owns a Goodyear shop tried a 5.7L swap and actually had it all in, but didn't have any room for a cooling system. There have been pictures of it here before. He gave up and put the v6 back in.
cnote6




POA Site Supporter
Prowler Junkie
Personal ScrapBook

From:Dallas, TX
Registered: Nov 2000
Admin Use

posted 02-26-2009 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cnote6     send a private message to cnote6   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by cnote6
Saw the motor on Ebay, auction ended early.
1997prowler


POA Site Supporter
Prowler Junkie

From:London, Ont.
Registered: Feb 2004
Admin Use

posted 02-26-2009 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1997prowler     send a private message to 1997prowler   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by 1997prowler
How will the frame hold up to the new power?
spoons


POA Site Supporter
Prowler Junkie
Personal ScrapBook

From:West Palm Beach, FL
Registered: Sep 2000
Admin Use

posted 02-27-2009 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spoons     send a private message to spoons   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by spoons
I bet the dash will look like a Christmas Tree. The real money comes when they have to get the HEMI 64 Bit CPU to talk to the Prowlers 16 bit CPU.

Your right, the frame will twist like a Pretzel and the shocks spring rate will be off due to extra weight on the front wheels.

I wish them all the luck in the world, but putting a V8 in the Prowler is "easier said then done".

This message has been edited by spoons on 02-27-2009 at 03:03 PM

catfish




POA Site Supporter
Prowler Junkie

From:scottsdale,az,usa
Registered: Jun 2001
Admin Use

posted 03-01-2009 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for catfish     send a private message to catfish   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by catfish
just one question,what are you going to do to solve the overheating problems you will have.ps,a larger rad is not the answer.

------------------

This message has been edited by catfish on 03-01-2009 at 10:13 PM

dbudner

Prowler Junkie

From:Dallas, Ga. USA
Registered: Sep 2002
Admin Use

posted 03-02-2009 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dbudner     send a private message to dbudner   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by dbudner
Hope you can make this work Brandon. I'll stop by when I come up in another month or so.
spoons


POA Site Supporter
Prowler Junkie
Personal ScrapBook

From:West Palm Beach, FL
Registered: Sep 2000
Admin Use

posted 03-09-2009 07:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spoons     send a private message to spoons   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by spoons
Good thing they got the ProwlerPRO gears in it. I heared the guy for TX that put 5.7L Hemi in a Prowler went thru 2 sets of OEM gears before stepping up to the ProwlerPRO gears.
performance_innovations
Prowler Newbie

From:Wilmington NC
Registered: Nov 2008
Admin Use

posted 03-13-2009 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for performance_innovations     send a private message to performance_innovations   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by performance_innovations
quote:

just one question,what are you going to do to solve the overheating problems you will have.ps,a larger rad is not the answer.

Thanks for the help, I would never have thought of that on my own. Are you employed currently? I could really use some of your knowledge up here at my shop, I have no idea how I've gotten by all these years without your help.

Another question, have you ever actually even removed a radiator? (and by remove i mean actually take a wrench and do it yourself, not read about it on the internet and tell people how great your prowler mechanic could have done it)


quote:

I bet the dash will look like a Christmas Tree. The real money comes when they have to get the HEMI 64 Bit CPU to talk to the Prowlers 16 bit CPU. Your right, the frame will twist like a Pretzel and the shocks spring rate will be off due to extra weight on the front wheels. I wish them all the luck in the world, but putting a V8 in the Prowler is "easier said then done".

No one said its easy, thats why I'm doing it, the computers don't care what bit the processor is running at, all they need to do is share sensor signals (tps, crank sensor, etc)
All those signals are still analog on both the prowler and hemi computer. They have reference voltage and the sensor varies the resistance to change the reading, the crank and cam sensors are still hall effect on both prowler and hemi.

It sounds like you have no idea what you are talking about when you keep saying the 64bit vs 16 bit, the CPU inside the computers aren't actually going to be communicating with eachother, so it doesn't matter what processor bit they run.

And the check engine light will be disabled on this car anyways, no cats, no emission system, so the light would be on regardless, the diagnostic system will work just like factory tho.

catfish




POA Site Supporter
Prowler Junkie

From:scottsdale,az,usa
Registered: Jun 2001
Admin Use

posted 03-13-2009 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for catfish     send a private message to catfish   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by catfish
40 years in performance,collision,custom cars,and know more about a prowler than you ever will.not a good thing to come on our site and offend people,not good at all.looks like you found a owner,who's going to pay you to ruin his car,when the transaxle gives it up,and you cant keep it cool,hopefully the owner will sue your pants off for hacking up his car,for 9000.00,youre gonna loose money on this one.you belong on the pt website,with some those other
idiots.if we werent interested,we wouldnt ask or offer help
which we wont again.of course you know it all.please post the final out come,when you fail.

------------------

This message has been edited by catfish on 03-13-2009 at 12:47 PM

nitrosteve


POA Site Supporter
Prowler Junkie

From:Chino Hills,Ca. United States
Registered: Apr 2005
Admin Use

posted 03-13-2009 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nitrosteve     send a private message to nitrosteve   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by nitrosteve
I don't think the builder of this car has asked for anyones approval concerning this project. He is doing it! 20, 30, 40 years in any business doesn't mean a thing in this situation. If people never tried anything new we would still be living in the dark ages. I'm guessing uneducated people told others you will never go to the Moon or Mars, but people believed they could and they have. I don't understand the negativity here, this is a very interesting project and just maybe there is someone intelligent enough to get it done. Telling someone he belongs on the PT site is totally uncalled for and rude. I don't think this member reacted any differently than most of us would have, after being attacked for trying something new. I tend to agree with his stance let him do his work and see what happens but don't criticize someone for trying. How inane are the people posting criticism concerning this project going to feel when he succeeds, and he just might? We should be encouraging someone taking on this monumental task and show our support and enthusiasm, not casting dispersions on his ability to complete this project successfully. Even if the project isn't a success at least he had the courage to try. I for one will give him a chance, maybe others criticizing should do the same. If people hadn't dared to try new and different things, you wouldn't be driving the Prowler you have in your garage, you are though because someone believed they could do something others said would never be done.
catfish




POA Site Supporter
Prowler Junkie

From:scottsdale,az,usa
Registered: Jun 2001
Admin Use

posted 03-13-2009 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for catfish     send a private message to catfish   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by catfish
this guy is the one whos rude.especially when every prowler
built w/a v8,has overheated.its not about trying,its about offending a couple of people on this site.he may have swapped alot of engines,but never a prowler.its a different animal.he can do what ever he wants,but dont come on here and offend me.a prowler v8 swap is at a minimum 25.000 to 30.000,inc price of motor to do it right.
glad its not my car.

------------------

This message has been edited by catfish on 03-13-2009 at 12:30 PM

meancat


POA Site Supporter
Prowler Junkie

From:MODDERSVILLE, MICHIGAN
Registered: Aug 2002
Admin Use

posted 03-13-2009 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meancat     send a private message to meancat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by meancat
quote:
Originally posted by catfish:
this guy is the one whos rude.especially when every prowler
built w/a v8,has overheated.its not about trying,its about offending a couple of people on this site.he may have swapped alot of engines,but never a prowler.its a different animal.he can do what ever he wants,but dont come on here and offend me.a prowler v8 swap is at a minimum 25.000 to 30.000,inc price of motor to do it right.
glad its not my car.



That ain't write!!

------------------

nitrosteve


POA Site Supporter
Prowler Junkie

From:Chino Hills,Ca. United States
Registered: Apr 2005
Admin Use

posted 03-13-2009 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nitrosteve     send a private message to nitrosteve   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by nitrosteve
It appears by reading all the posts that this individual said nothing rude until he was attacked and his project criticized. He merely posted here telling us what he was attempting to do, we should have supported him instead some chose to act exactly like the group on PT and found fault with his project and criticized him. It was in my opinion the remarks made concerning his imminent failure that were posted before his so-called rude remarks that created his response. I am assuming since you have exact dollar figures concerning this conversion that you have tried and failed or succeeded, thus you have the ability to put a dollar figure on this project. Otherwise those figures are neither accurate nor inaccurate, only conjecture. Until it is done and the exact dollar total spent is determined no one really knows what it will cost. I like you am glad this is not my car, but I believe I am glad for a different reason. I truly hope his project is a success and the new motor performs well, it will be a unique car if he can solve the problems surrounding the conversion, I further believe if he is successful Kat owners will be lining up to get theirs done. We have a friend locally who decided to put a hemi in a PT Cruiser, everyone said no way, last year at the local PT Cruiser picnic in LaPalma he had the completed car on site, it was fantastic, he proved the nay sayers wrong, hopefully this gentleman will be every bit as successful! Rules are meant to be broken, just as problems are meant to be solved, time will tell, lets wait to pass judgement until the project is completed. I have my beliefs on this project, I view it to be a monumental task but I do not rule out the fact that it can be done. I will not say it can't be done, therefore I will not be eating crow if it is a success. If he is successful I would guess the ones stepping forward with the negativity concerning this project will be nowhere to be found.

This message has been edited by nitrosteve on 03-13-2009 at 01:01 PM

Pantera


POA Site Supporter
Prowler Junkie

From:Connecticut
Registered: Nov 2004
Admin Use

posted 03-13-2009 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pantera     send a private message to Pantera   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Pantera
I'm looking forward to seeing this project progress.

------------------
Pantera

ProwlerStuff.com
Purple 1999--Chrome wheels, Stainless Grille, Mopar/Borla Performance Exhaust, Prowler Pro Gears, K&N Air filter, Shimmers, ceramic brake pads, Splash Guards, Chrome Shift Bezel, Flame Ball Shifter, Chrome Headrest Covers, Wonder Bar, Spinners, Infinity Kappa speakers, Get-A-Way luggage trunk, Hardtop, & a smile from ear to ear...

DFOTOPRO


POA Site Supporter
Prowler Junkie

From:Redlands, Ca
Registered: Jun 2007
Admin Use

posted 03-13-2009 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DFOTOPRO     send a private message to DFOTOPRO   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by DFOTOPRO
any new photos

toys


POA Site Supporter
Prowler Junkie

From:kensington Conn, USA
Registered: Dec 2003
Admin Use

posted 03-13-2009 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for toys     send a private message to toys   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by toys
quote:
Originally posted by nitrosteve:
I don't think the builder of this car has asked for anyones approval concerning this project. He is doing it! 20, 30, 40 years in any business doesn't mean a thing in this situation. If people never tried anything new we would still be living in the dark ages. I'm guessing uneducated people told others you will never go to the Moon or Mars, but people believed they could and they have. I don't understand the negativity here, this is a very interesting project and just maybe there is someone intelligent enough to get it done. Telling someone he belongs on the PT site is totally uncalled for and rude. I don't think this member reacted any differently than most of us would have, after being attacked for trying something new. I tend to agree with his stance let him do his work and see what happens but don't criticize someone for trying. How inane are the people posting criticism concerning this project going to feel when he succeeds, and he just might? We should be encouraging someone taking on this monumental task and show our support and enthusiasm, not casting dispersions on his ability to complete this project successfully. Even if the project isn't a success at least he had the courage to try. I for one will give him a chance, maybe others criticizing should do the same. If people hadn't dared to try new and different things, you wouldn't be driving the Prowler you have in your garage, you are though because someone believed they could do something others said would never be done.


Steve
I Couldn't agree with you more, Thanks for a well written & accurate response. JMHO

Brandon performance_innovations
Wishing you the very best on this build & very much looking forward to your success and any updates on it.

toys

DFOTOPRO


POA Site Supporter
Prowler Junkie

From:Redlands, Ca
Registered: Jun 2007
Admin Use

posted 03-13-2009 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DFOTOPRO     send a private message to DFOTOPRO   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by DFOTOPRO
someone once said Better to have tried and failed then to never have tried..to bad some find it easy to tell you why you can't do something
GOATFALLS


POA Site Supporter
Prowler Junkie

From:OK. 74070
Registered: Jul 2007
Admin Use

posted 03-13-2009 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GOATFALLS     send a private message to GOATFALLS   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by GOATFALLS
woo hoo It's not me pi$$ing everyone off for a change and friday the 13th to boot and I'm having a good day so far...ps if this made you angry, so be it and get in line I'm getting used to it, bob
1buddyc



POA Site Supporter
Prowler Junkie

From:San Antonio Texas USA
Registered: Sep 2002
Admin Use

posted 03-13-2009 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1buddyc     send a private message to 1buddyc   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by 1buddyc
quote:
Originally posted by catfish:
.you belong on the pt website,with some those other
idiots.

Jan, the above comment you made about the PT Website is not only uncalled for and immature it is truly offensive. I think you owe EVERY MEMBER there an apology! Last time I looked, you were a Member there too. Are you calling Yourself an idiot?

This message has been edited by 1buddyc on 03-13-2009 at 04:22 PM

onecatnodog
Prowler Junkie

From:arvada,co,usa
Registered: Aug 2004
Admin Use

posted 03-13-2009 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for onecatnodog     send a private message to onecatnodog   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by onecatnodog
I have stayed quiet on this subject but some of you know that there is a Hemi Prowler that was done here in Colorado.. I have talked to Brendan on the phone a few times and through E mails and he has done lots of Hemi conversions and I have checked his stories through Squires as they are the ones that make the wiring harness for the Hemi Conversion along with the other conversions out there that involve this Killer Motor. Brendan is a customer of theirs and has ordered many kits.. It's true that he hasn't done a Prowler yet but has worked at a shop that has... It is also true that the check engine light will stay on and we put ours on a timer just to keep the Emissions people here in Colorado Happy.. Our car will pass the Colorado E test, and runs and drives with out over heating but I will still hold back with the story and all the pictures of this Hemi Colorado Prowler as the final test will be doing Trail Ridge Road this Spring.. Just like the test that Marc, and Jordon did with their Dean's Stroker engine and passed with flying colors.. After that test I will post up Good or Bad on the Hemi Trans Plant at a Mile Hi. That is a true test for a go anywhere street car and is why the big failing three use our state to test... I think it's great that the car is still involved in Mods as it will let some come and play with these cars that the lack of horse power has kept away... Hot Rodding has been around for years and it's good to see that it will continue no matter what or how it's done... onecatnodog

This topic is 4 pages long:   1  2  3  4 

All times are CT (US)  Top of Page  Previous Page

 Return to Prowler Performance/Appearance Discussion  next newest topic | next oldest topic



Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | Prowler Online Homepage

All material contained herein, Copyright 2000 - 2012 ProwlerOnline.com
E-Innovations, LP

POA Terms of Service