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posted 06-15-2004 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALLEY CAT     send a private message to ALLEY CAT   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ALLEY CAT
Being the test pilot for Larry Lord's new product - the FMBox front stabilizer bar, herein I'll refer to it as the WONDER BAR. Until you drive with it installed on your cat, you will WONDER why you waited so long to buy one! As far as I know, Larry has not yet given this new product a name.

TEST RESULTS:

Test Car - 2000 Prowler with 29,100 miles to start

Mileage of test - 2,898 miles Arizona to Texas and back

Visual exam at finish - good as new

Testing over railroad tracks, pot holes, manhole covers, and rough roads - Amazing difference in road feeling. Much softer cabin sensation = greatly reduced harsh bang/thump feelings.

Testing on good to normal road surfaces - Smooth as silk. Maybe not the ride of a Lincoln, but much improved over what I have experienced in my Prowler.

Overall satisfaction of test product - Grade A

Who should buy this product? - 1997 through 2002 owners who primarily use their cars as cruising vehicles.

Who should not buy this product? - Prowler owners who enjoy the harsh, stiff ride that transitions into the cabin ride feeling, and those who might run their cars in road racing events.

Overall review - With testing done on a 2000 model Prowler, I would venture to say that the WONDER BAR should improve the ride of 2000 and newer Prowlers by a 50% improvement over what you are now use to. That figure should be higher on the 1997 and 1999 model Prowlers. JMO

Accreditation - The WONDER BAR will carry the Alley Cat Stamp of Approval


The WONDER BAR name is a term used with this test product, and is a courtesy from Alley Cat Productions, Inc.

We will have to wait for Larry Lord to make any further comments or availability of this new test product. You can contact Larry via email or PM from the POA website.

Larry@FMBbox.com


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This message has been edited by ALLEY CAT on 06-15-2004 at 09:33 PM

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Larry...any pictures of the installation available that you can post??
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Sorry Jim, no pictures taken during the install. I think it was 6 or 8 bolts to remove, replace with new bar, and reverse order to put it back together. Maybe I can catch up with you on some weekend, and you can torture test my cat on some of those Foothills roads in your area? It's a nice product that smooths out the ride,,,,I was really amazed at the difference.
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posted 06-16-2004 02:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
I think Wonder Bra is already taken. OOOOh, Wonder BAR. Never mind.
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Wow...THAT much of a difference in ride huh?

Sounds like a cool product.

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I knew that I had a good idea and I knew by calulations what should work but I was amazed at just how much difference the "Wonder Bar" made on my car and so was Alley Cat. Thank you Larry for the name idea. I've decided to use it so now I'm pretty sure that after Al Bendover (Alley Cats attorney) gets done with me, I'll be paying royalties to my furry friend.

After receiving such a good report from Alley Cat, I started my initial production run this week.

The bar arms are being laser cut this week and the 4130 Chrome-Moly parts should be welded together by the end of next week. I will then take them to the heat treater to have them normalized and hardened. After the heat treater is finished, I'll need to take them to the sandblaster for cleanup and then they will be ready for the powdercoat shop and a nice coating of silver paint.
Assuming about one week per process, I should have them ready to ship around mid July.
The kink in all this though is I'll be on vacation July 2-11 so if I don't get them into the powdercoat shop before vacation, It will be nearer the end of July before I can ship.

I'm not sure of the price yet. I was hoping to keep them under $200.00 but that doesn't look likely. I'm now guessing at $250-$275 as steel and heat treating costs are higher than I expected.

This message has been edited by Larry Lord on 06-16-2004 at 10:39 AM

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Larry,

I will take 3 of the new "Wonder Bars"!
When you have the final pricing figured out, let me know.

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LL- Could you post a pic of the Wonder Bar and its location?
Thanks, Buddy.

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What's the big secret Larry? What are they and where do they mount?
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Al - try this thread. It may some of your questions.
http://www.prowleronline.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/010917.html
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posted 06-16-2004 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
Larry, I will take one. Just promise me there will not be a physical sticker saying it has the Alley Cat stamp of approval on it. lol
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Hey--dont know how I missed it...think I was away when the pic was posted. Thanks Marty. So this replaces the factory bar?
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posted 06-16-2004 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
AL, A/C had it riveted to his hood and that is why it will be powder coated silver, so it looks a little better. lol
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quote:
Originally posted by ed monahan:
Larry, I will take one. Just promise me there will not be a physical sticker saying it has the Alley Cat stamp of approval on it. lol

Ed - No, there is not going to be a decal on it stating it has the AC Stamp of Approval,,,,,,,,,,,,but Julie requested from Lethia that she mail her 50 of my longest chest hairs. Something about the first 50 units sold would have one of my hairs glued to the

WONDER BAR and numbered. This will increase the value of these first units in the years to come!

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Al - Yes, you are correct, this replaces the OEM stabilizer bar.

I guess I should have taken some pictures during the install, but I was short on time when installing it and the days were counting down to the take-off for Texas. Besides, you wouldn't want to see pictures of my lard as$ working under the nose of the cat, lol.

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posted 06-16-2004 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
After reading that post about your chest hairs, I lost my lunch. lol
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quote:
Originally posted by ed monahan:
After reading that post about your chest hairs, I lost my lunch. lol

Ed - you did? Funny, Sandy enjoyed running her fingers through my chest hairs while you were out running down the 1/4 mile, lol.

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quote:
Originally posted by ALLEY CAT:
No, there is not going to be a decal on it stating it has the AC Stamp of Approval,,,,,,,,,,,,but Julie requested from Lethia that she mail her 50 of my longest chest hairs. Something about the first 50 units sold would have one of my hairs glued to the WONDER BAR

Oh Great! Now I have to add a flea dip to the process.

Ed, You better make sure Sandy has had her shots.

This message has been edited by Larry Lord on 06-17-2004 at 12:05 AM

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She keeps a baggie of my hair with her, too. Alley Cat's chest hair was probably on the burger he was eating, after the hair fell out. lol
This thread has gone WAAAAY down hill even by A/C's and my standards (IF we had standards, I mean).
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If its as good as you say i'm in! Do I take off the brace I have on now?

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Chuck - If you are asking about a suspension brace that you may have installed that goes above the battery,,,,no, you not need to remove that brace.
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Hello, UK Prowler here.

That new Wonder Bar sounds just what I need for some the narrow & bumpy roads in the UK.

Larry, I would definately like to buy one when they are available.

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orig. posted by BuddyC.
LL- Could you post a pic of the Wonder Bar and its location?

Yes, please !

This message has been edited by Dustis on 08-02-2004 at 09:54 AM

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Go here and scroll down to msee pics:
http://www.prowleronline.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/010917.html
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Marty,
Thanks for your help in answering questions.

Dustis and Buddy,
The Wonder Bar is a direct bolt-in replacement for your stock stabilizer bar.
There really isn't anything that a picture will show you that looking at your stock bar won't show you.

GOOD NEWS!!!
The parts are back from the Lazer cutter and I'm hoping to get them welded together by the end of the weekend.
Shipping mid July or maybe even sooner looks very likely at this time.

There are a limited number of Wonder Bars available on this first production run but a second run is now in process.

The first 20 Wonder Bars sold will sell for $250.00 INCLUDING SHIPPING in the USA ONLY.
I will only accept Checks or Money Orders at this price.

Please send me an e-mail or post your name in "Wonder Bar" in the Group Products section of the POA Forum to reserve your Wonder Bar.

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