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Marty Usher



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posted 12-03-2002 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Usher     send a private message to Marty Usher   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Marty Usher
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Originally posted by Kenne Bell:
AND THE WINNER IS..........

TODD CAMERON GETS THE FREE OPTIMIZER II UPGRADE. HE WAS THE VERY FIRST TO REPLY AND HAS GRACIOUSLY AGREED TO LET US TEST HIS PROWLER ...


Watch out, Todd might show up with all thre of his Prowlers and try to get the free upgrade for all three.

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posted 12-03-2002 04:11 PM           send a private message to Marty Usher   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Todd Cameron
lol Marty... I'm going to bring an 01 and the 00 in, as things are different in the torque converter and how fast they are. That way they can see if there are any differences. They are going to test with stock and mopar pipes too.
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posted 12-03-2002 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeWare     send a private message to BeWare   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by BeWare
I for one am very anxious to hear the results and if they are positive what this chip is going to cost.
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I for one am very anxious to hear the results and if they are positive what this chip is going to cost.

The price for the Optimizer II upgrade is $349. You send your PCM to us, we ship it back to you Next Day Air no charge.

"Us" being them, not me

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posted 12-04-2002 01:54 AM           send a private message to BeWare   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Todd Cameron
Rich, you know I'll post as soon as I know what the scoop is
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posted 12-04-2002 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cnote6     send a private message to cnote6   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by cnote6
Drum Roll Please.

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posted 12-04-2002 12:58 PM           send a private message to cnote6   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Todd Cameron
lol, are you sure it's not the music from Jaws?
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posted 12-04-2002 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cnote6     send a private message to cnote6   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by cnote6
Dunt Dunt. LOL
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posted 12-04-2002 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Usher     send a private message to Marty Usher   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Marty Usher
Todd - its cool you get a free upgrade. I hope its even better than they are expecting. Keep us posted, please.
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You bet guyz! Really looking forward to this!
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posted 12-05-2002 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for prwlyn     send a private message to prwlyn   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by prwlyn
Kenne, I may have missed it but what brand dyno will this be tested on? Just curious.

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Just bringing this to the top again:

Thanks Ken,

Will your changes void the current warranty? (I have a 2002)

Would your changes be reset back to normal by the DC techs everytime I took it in for service? (I'm guessing here folks, the DC tech plugs in his gizmo and sets it to factory standards)

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posted 12-05-2002 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kenne Bell     send a private message to Kenne Bell   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Kenne Bell
To prwlyn:

We have a DynoJet, the world's most accurate dyno!

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posted 12-05-2002 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kenne Bell     send a private message to Kenne Bell   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Kenne Bell
To YellowFever:

No, our changes will not void the warranty. We place a decal on the PCM showing you've been "Optimized", but you can just remove it if and when you go to the dealer for service if you are concerned. No one to-date that we are aware of has ever been denied any warranty work because our Optimizer was in place.

You would have to watch out for the dealer reflashing the PCM because that would erase our changes and put you back to stock. If the DC techs are just checking for codes or doing anything else at all they will not bother the Optimizer settings.

Regards,

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Originally posted by Kenne Bell:
To YellowFever:

You would have to watch out for the dealer reflashing the PCM because that would erase our changes and put you back to stock. If the DC techs are just checking for codes or doing anything else at all they will not bother the Optimizer settings.

Regards,

Kenne Bell


How would I know they have/haven't reflashed it?

Also, right now, the only things on the car are the Borla/Mopar exhaust and the MTD intake. I'm thinking of adding the gears later.

Would anything else need be done to the PCM after I add the gears?

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Originally posted by Kenne Bell:
You would have to watch out for the dealer reflashing the PCM because that would erase our changes and put you back to stock. If the DC techs are just checking for codes or doing anything else at all they will not bother the Optimizer settings.

I have a question related to this: Since the dealer has the ability to reverse the Optimizer settings, does the dealer have the ability to change the settings in the computer? The reason I ask this is because every time I take mine in for service (to the good tech, not the local monkeys), it comes back like a charging bull. For instance, I picked it up a couple weeks ago and on the way home, I had to quickly merge into traffic. I punched it and the car got all sideways and seriously chirped second gear. It shocked the hell out of me as I was surprised at how well it was running and it had never done that with such ferocity before. The previous time in for service, my tech asked me if I wanted him to adjust the timing, and just told him, "sure, why not". I have not talked to him personally since getting my car back, but I am interested in finding out what he did.

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This message has been edited by William Gallagher on 12-05-2002 at 12:32 PM

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Bill, I would attribute it to resetting the computer to original settings. I did not believe that was possible when it was first posted but I disconnected the battery in the PT and the difference was shocking.
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posted 12-06-2002 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kenne Bell     send a private message to Kenne Bell   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Kenne Bell
To YellowFever:

Believe me, you'll know if the dealer reflashes your PCM, because all the performance you got out of our Optimizer will be gone and you will feel the difference!

Don't worry so much about the dealer reflashing the PCM. We've sold hundreds of Optimizers and never has one come back reflashed by the dealer. Updates for calibrations from the factory do not come out that often. If by some chance this happens, we'll work with you to get it flashed back to our calibration.

Regarding gear changes: the settings for the gears and tire sizes are done within the ABS module, not the PCM. If you change the gears, the dealer can reset the ABS for you and NOT affect our program.

Regards,

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posted 12-06-2002 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kenne Bell     send a private message to Kenne Bell   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Kenne Bell
To Bill Gallagher:

The dealer absolutely cannot change the settings in the computer except for tire and gear changes (ABS module) and to clear the adaptive engine and transmission memories.

If your Prowler performed like a "raging bull" after going to the dealer, it's possibly due to him resetting the adaptive memories - this will cause some initial difference in the "feel" of how it drives, but believe me: we do this all the time. We test very thoroughly on the dyno - we can measure a one horsepower change - performing a PCM and/or Trans controller reset doesn't make any horsepower.

Again, the dealer cannot change things like the spark because DaimlerChrysler would be responsible for its effect on emissions - they simply do not allow the dealers to do anything like this.

Hope this clears this up.

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Hi everyone.

We just want to take a moment to let everyone know we enjoy the opportunity to interact with you. However, please bear with us at times because we are a very fast-paced progressive performance products development company and we're not always available right at the computer to immediately respond to all your questions. We work long hours on many different projects and sometimes it may take us a day or two to get back to you.

Many of the questions posed to us are answered right on our website at http://www.kennebell.net so if we haven't been back to visit and you're anxious, try finding the answer here.

Thanks again!

Kenne Bell

This message has been edited by Kenne Bell on 12-11-2002 at 05:48 PM

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Todd,
When are you taking a Kat to them? Let us know. Just anxious!

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JP, waitin for Ken to tell me to "come on down" right now. Maybe this week?
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Thanks Todd,
I hope he's not waitin' on Christmas. Hehhehehehehe
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