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posted 01-29-2014 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Piddler     send a private message to Piddler   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Piddler
If it has a blown head gasket, that will cause it to get hot.
If that is the case, you should see a lot of air bubbles in the tank.
This problem is not likely

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posted 01-30-2014 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for robbieb     send a private message to robbieb   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by robbieb
I "bled" the cooling system. No air was trapped.

I got a thermostat and I'm gonna take it down the street to a shop and have them put that on for me (too dirty of a job to do at the house I live in)

I'll let y'all know if that is the problem.

Here's a weird thing...when I did the "burping" or "bleeding" of the coolant system...my engine light came on and hasn't went off since.

That sucks. lol

I'm hoping it's just the thermostat. As I said earlier...I can drive the thing. Hell, I can crank it and let it sit and idle and it doesn't overheat.

I'll drive it about 5 or 6 minutes and it will creep up to the 3/4 mark. That's when I shut it down so I don't overheat all the way.

Kinda weird.

I'm diagnosing that it's NOT the waterpump...else wise there wouldn't have been anything coming out when I opened that valve to "bleed" the cooling system.

So it's got to be the thermostat or the radiator.

I'll know more after the thermostat is replaced.

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posted 01-30-2014 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lionberger     send a private message to lionberger   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by lionberger
Is your cooling fan coming on?

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I don't know if it is or not. I didn't even think about that.
Right now it's at the shop. They are gonna change out the thermostat, flush the system, run a pressure test...also discovered an oil pan leak and it looks like the dreaded evap system leak that caused my engine light to come on as well.

They are keeping her overnight so I'll know more tomorrow.

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Fan should come on when ac compressor is on. Turn on ac and see if fan is running. You at least know fan is good.
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I bought my late build 2001 in January 2006 with about 7,400 miles on it. I had a massive problem with the engine overheating a few years ago. At that time my car had about 15,000 miles on it. After years of ownership it suddenly would get very hot within about 5 to 10 minutes of driving.

A lot of frustration later, it was finally fixed and has been perfect ever since.

The steps I took were as follows. I replaced the thermostat (didn't fix it). I had a dealer look at the car which led to a replacement of the antifreeze, burped the system, etc. (didn't work). The dealer also performed a forward flush (didn't fix it). Then the dealer removed the radiator. When out of the car (I watched it being removed) the Prowler trained mechanic and I could clearly see that the inside of the radiator had a bunch of crap in it. I decided to replace the radiator. The cost was about $800.00 for the original equipment part. Checked the hoses while the radiator was out. At that time the assumption was that old antifreeze and possibly the use of the wrong antifreeze prior to my ownership led to the clogged radiator and the problem would be fixed. Wrong!!

By that time I recall having spent about $1,300 farting around with the "expert" dealer and it still overheated. Have not been back to them since.

Told my buddy Vince about the problems and he suggested a highly regarded, local auto repair shop take a look. They double checked everything and looked at the water pump (it was fine). They performed a back flush of the system. I learned that special equipment is required for a true back flush of the system. Most shops don't invest in it. They had the equipment.

You would not believe the crap that came out of the engine. I was there to see it. It had casting sand, some kind of slime, what looked like some metal shavings, and who knows what else, in it. They did the procedure at least twice. Then they removed the reachable engine plugs and blew out some more crap. Did that a few times. Ultimately, it was determined that the block had crap in it from the factory and somehow had gotten plugged up and that was the reason the engine would get so hot. After all that was done (and the cost was very reasonable for all the work they did) they put the car back together and it has been perfect ever since. I've driven many miles since. Long trips with the A/C blasting) and many shorter trips. Absolutely no more problems.

Sooo, long story here.....my problem was in the block itself. They solved it by performing a true reverse (or back) flush and removed the reachable plugs to flush out block.

Hope my process and experience helps you to sort out your overheating.

Jim


RobbieB -

I forgot to mention that early into this process of elimination, i made sure the fan worked, checked the cap and hoses, all the easy stuff.

My guess is that the block is clogged. Somewhere along the process I was told I would have to remove the engine, tear it, down, etc. It wasn't necessary. Get the system reverse flushed. Thinking back at my experience, I could not believe what I was seeing come out of the engine block.

Jim

This message has been edited by jim des on 01-31-2014 at 12:28 AM

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That's pretty interesting Jim.
I'll get my car back on Friday and see where I'm at. If it's still running hot then I'm gonna bring up what you just posted.

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