posted 07-28-2005 07:52 PM                  

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just like the DC idiots on the Prowler.

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I don't think it's necessary to call the engineers who designed and worked on Prowler "idiots". They brought a concept vehicle to production in a short time and Prowler was an experimental car anyway. We have one Prowler engineer who drives the I Scream to our events to help out, answer questions and fix problems.........he's not an "idiot".

posted 07-28-2005 08:12 PM                  

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Originally posted by Dave Mills:
The Prowler Engineers are certainly not idiots and I do not believe its fair to charcterize them that way. There is no other car like the Prowler. As for having an SSR instead of a Prowler? No way! I would take one in addition to the kat, though.

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posted 07-28-2005 11:32 PM                  

Whether it is Microsoft with their bug infested operating system that you no doubt are using to answer this post or the Prowler, corporate America has one and only one goal in mind and that is money (greed). They deal with the issues later. This is not a rant but how I feel. Would I buy another Prowler or the next Windows knowing all I know about it now? Probably yes on the Prowler and definitely on the OS. Do I wish they had made better decisions? An astounding YES. GM is not any better nor any of the other car makers in my opinion. But it does not stop with them. Take a look around at everything you buy. You want it heavier, lighter, tougher, longer lasting, but you don't want to pay the price it costs to make it. I build and fix computers in my spare time. Give me a hard drive that was made 8-10 years ago any time. Do you know that most drives had 3 yr warranties then? Not now unless you want to pay extra for it. The makers of these had to lower their manufacturing standards because price sells. I just thought that at the price some paid for these cars which was not low end, more thought would have gone into designing parts for this car. I know the adage about how many parts there are and no one can know how each will act when put into operation. But that is their job, not mine! I only buy.

I didn't start this post reply to take a jab at anybody, just to offer my humble opinion. The engineers let us all down on this car, just ask any one who has had to fix any of the things I have written about and probably many more that I haven't. I stand corrected on the "idiot" remark and it was off the cuff, but there is a real concern here.

posted 07-28-2005 11:49 PM                  

I agree with you that the consumer expects their cars to have "everything" and be perfect, but in the real world, there is no such thing as perfect and the consumer doesn't want to pay the cost of what that vehicle would be even if they could do it. So, manufacturers do the best they can. Prowler was "experimental" in that it was using materials (aluminum) to see if these materials could be used in future cars. They are called "parts cars".... and yes, they used parts from other cars. Again, it was done to cut the costs of developing all Prowler specific parts and the costs of the tooling. That was to help keep the cost of the car at a price that consumers could afford and to be able to "share" parts for future replacement.

posted 07-28-2005 11:54 PM                  

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posted 07-29-2005 12:32 AM                  

Oh yea....my headlights fog up after shutting down.....I saw a $250,000 Lambo do the same thing, I won't sweat this one.

Yes if you blast the hose when washing, it does come in slightly in one place on the passenger window, but this is unrealistic as the rain does not come with the same force or angle as you can obtain with the hose. Has been driven in the rain many times and has never leaked....not even a little!

I don't think Chrysler ever expected to make a dime on the Prowler. It was really a promotional / test vehicle.....to say Hey look at us, look at what we'll do.

Any yes....the centre caps are complete crap, and the chrome on the wheels is pathetic, but these are outsourced pieces and the manufacturers of the parts completely let Chrysler down. Although it does reflect on the Prowler it really has nothing to do with the car. I don't think any other North American car manufacturer has gone out on a limb with a vehicle like Chrysler did on the Prowler.

I'm sure glad I've had no problems, I feel for some of the stories I've heard. I know people who have spent $100,000 plus on BMW's and have had nothing but trouble and no satisfaction from their dealer.

Cars are just machines....pretty soon Home Depot will sell them... There will be 3 or 4 companies that make everything we own.

JMO.....

posted 07-30-2005 08:23 AM                  

As far as this thread heating up a little about a comment that was made about being an idiot...well...I believe that was just taken out of context. Unfortunately...as we all know...this can happen a lot when writing e-mails, posts, replies, etc.

Your a great group! I can attest to that, especially now after meeting a few of you in Carlisle.

Everyone...including myself...will have opinions. There are times on this site when a comment may irritate me and I usually just blow it off. Unless it's directed towards me...then the gloves come off!!!

Where am I going with this...nowhere. Actually I had to work last night and I'm going to bed.

All I can say now is...HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND!!!

posted 07-30-2005 10:21 AM                  

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Originally posted by quincy:
There will always be 'arm chair quarterbacks' and people who perfer to shop at Wallmart!

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Quincy - I enjoy your wit,,,,,,,sounds just like something I would say, lol.

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Heaven knows that I pis$ and moan about the specific, irritating problems that come up on these cars. Having two of these cats shows I'm willing to put up with the problems and go forward to enjoy them. Neither of ours are for sale,,,,nor do I ever expect them to be.

What was the question? SSR or Prowler? We might have room for a SSR someday

posted 08-08-2005 08:33 PM                  

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Went to Das Augkst Fest at Macungie Park, in Macungie, PA on Saturday. It's a fantastic three day car show with over 3,000 antique and custom cars. My wife and I drove in through the gates and were immediately swamped with lookers. We could barely manage to park the SSR, because there were people gathering all around us. It's amazing, because we were the only SSR there. Everyone stated that the Slingshot Yellow was made for the SSR body style. I was hoarse by the end of the night answering everyone's questions. My answer to them, as far as the color was concerned, was that every color looks good on the SSR. The best part of this whole thing, was that later model cars aren't allowed in the show, as this show is for vintage and classic cars. But we thought we'd give it a try, and as we approached the main gate, three attendents stood up and welcomed us with open arms, and as we paid our way in, they just kept complimenting the car. Some of the cars that parked next to us, only stayed for a short time and then looked for a new spot, because they weren't getting any attention. People would bypass they're classic or vintage cars and walk right up to our SSR. Later on in the evening, an Inca Gold Prowler snuck in and parked next to us. I set my SSR with the rear lid and gate open, and put the top halfway down. It put the Prowler completely to shame and he ended up shaking my hand and then got in his Prowler and moved to another space a few rows down.

posted 08-09-2005 08:43 PM                  

From what I've seen of ssrfanatic, it's a good site without a lot if any flaming. I hope for all of you it stays that way.

posted 08-10-2005 09:05 AM                  

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Originally posted by SirReal:
Father Larry while I do like the SSR(alot) I doubt very seriously that you put any Prowler to shame! I saw your post on ssrfanatic and see no purpose for you to come to this site and flame us here. I beat out a beautiful SSR and some outrageous Vettes with my yellow Prowler at the World of Wheels in Washington D.C., but wouldn't even think of going to ssrfanatic.com and flaunting that.

From what I've seen of ssrfanatic, it's a good site
without a lot if any flaming. I hope for all of you it
stays that way.

For what it's worth, I would cruise with an SSR anytime as it obvious we all like retro. Jeff

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Sorry if you took it that way....no disrespect intended. Just stating what actually happened. You could take some of these posts here as a flame besides mine. I have an '02 Inca Gold Prowler, so it's obvious I like both cars. Don't let your ego get bent out of shape. Sorry i like my SSR more then my prowler. Isn't that what this thread about.