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posted 02-21-2005 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zack     send a private message to Zack   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Zack
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I bet if one of yours starts to peel...you will find a solution for us!

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I dont know Zack.CJ and Bob help us out quite a bit, but I don't think they can budge the corp heads on this one. It will probably take a team effort. I bet she can get her own wheels repaired though.
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Originally posted by butchcee:
It will probably take a team effort.

Where can I sign!!! Kinda doubt a petition would do any good. I, like everyone else, thinks that is so unfare that we have to live with this chrome flaking problem.
When did DC realize just how bad the rims were plated? How come they didn't stop, replace the already flaking rims, in addition to trying to find a reputable plater? It sounds as if they let it continue through the life of the Prowler.
If anyone can come up with a solution...I'M IN!!!
Have a good day everyone!
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CJ-I bet if one of yours starts to peel...you will find a solution for us!

Well, we're good , but I don't know about performing miracles! If that ever happens to any of my wheels (which so far it hasn't), I will have to figure out what to do just like everyone else!

My understanding is that American Racing was responsible for producing the wheels..........

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I was just playin' CJ - Glad you took it that way...seems some folks are pretty sensitive.

Unlike many others, I knew what I was getting into when I bought my car used with already peeling wheels...but we can all hope for someone to accept responsibility eventually and fix the problem.

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Unlike many others, I knew what I was getting into when I bought my car used with already peeling wheels

Well, Zack, I definitely made sure you knew about the wheels up front......it was the biggest issue with the car as I saw it.

This message has been edited by CJ on 02-22-2005 at 09:55 AM

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Originally posted by CJ:

My understanding is that American Racing was responsible for producing the wheels..........


CJ,
Stupid question cuz I think I already know the answer. Do you think American racing would do right by us by replating the flaking rims even though it has been a good amount of time? I imagine they would have to replate seeing as how I doubt that there is a leftover stash of chrome Prowler rims lying around in some abandoned warehouse. The reason I'm asking about American Racing is that it doesn't sound as if DC cares anymore.
I really doubt that they would help any of us out. I'm mean what would they gain as a company by doing this. I guess it didn't hurt to ask.
Have a great day everyone!
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posted 02-22-2005 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
Is American Racing still in business? The plant in Warsaw, KY closed a long time ago.
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If you guys think our wheels are Bad.

I just Got back from Town Fair Tire and while waiting to have tire's mounted on my daughter's GMC Denali and Just to pass the time away i was looking at the multitude of aftermarket chrome rim s they had. when my Daughter say's hey Dad look at these and there American racing wheels (she knows how upset i am with them).
Anyway they were peeling on the inside so i called the manager over who i Know personally and asked him about the rims peeling as i grabbed a piece of lifting chrome and was able to honest to god peel off about six inches of chrome right to the front of the rim just like tin foil.

He told me he get's returns back from American racing all the time with peeling and defect's all the time and they just replace them. (GO figure).

I'm going back tomorrow to get some pics and post them.

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Originally posted by ed monahan:
Is American Racing still in business? The plant in Warsaw, KY closed a long time ago.

http://www.americanracing.com/

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I couldn't remember if they folded up their tent. I remember reading something about it a couple of years ago but I guess they were just downsizing.
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posted 02-22-2005 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     send a private message to CJ   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CJ
Sounds like Prowler American Racing wheels aren't the only American Racing wheels with problems.
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...A few years ago, I bought a new Jeep for my wife....it had chrome wheels by American Racing.....within a week the chrome had peeled off one of the front wheels like chewing gum foil...about a third of it just floated away....DC replaced it with no question....they did take pictures....but I also had quite a few Prowler wheels replaced too....

...another local Jeep owner had the same problems...these were 2002 models....

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Maybe this has already been answered.....

Since the wheel problem seems to be universal and, from my perspective is truly a DC problem, why not enter a class action suit against them?

In a simple sense, DC selected the vendor and it really doesn't matter about the vendor's current financial situation. This problem seems to be almost universal and affects a significant amount of owners.

Instead of worrying about the vendor let DC do that and enter a class action suit against DC with several thousand Prowler owners and I'll bet they find a rapid solution.

I am not an attorney and I have no interest in being a jerk but if ever there seemed to be a justified cause this is it.

When you do the math, if only 50% of the owners have a problem.......over 20,000 wheels are involved. If it costs anywhere near $1,000 per set.....you are talking about a $5,000,000 problem! I am sure that would tighten someone's pucker string at DC!

Just think about it and get some advise. Someone on the POA is certainly an attorney and could "handle" the situation.

There is power in numbers and in this case it certainly seems justified. How can DC expect an owner of a $45,000 car to "eat" a set of wheels when such an excessive amount of owners seem to have the same problem.

Judge Judy would even rule in your favor! They continued the vendor through multiple product years knowing that they had a problem and then they "walked away" from the problem when they discontinued the car! Sure seems like a viable case to me.

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I think the Old Man is right on the money ! What do we really have to lose ? There must be some young lawyer out there that wants to make a name for themselves.....

sign me up ...

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Too bad it has to come to something like this, but there ought to be some accountability.
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Originally posted by Scot Stern:
Maybe this has already been answered.....

Since the wheel problem seems to be universal and, from my perspective is truly a DC problem, why not enter a class action suit against them?

In a simple sense, DC selected the vendor and it really doesn't matter about the vendor's current financial situation. This problem seems to be almost universal and affects a significant amount of owners.

Instead of worrying about the vendor let DC do that and enter a class action suit against DC with several thousand Prowler owners and I'll bet they find a rapid solution.

I am not an attorney and I have no interest in being a jerk but if ever there seemed to be a justified cause this is it.

When you do the math, if only 50% of the owners have a problem.......over 20,000 wheels are involved. If it costs anywhere near $1,000 per set.....you are talking about a $5,000,000 problem! I am sure that would tighten someone's pucker string at DC!

Just think about it and get some advise. Someone on the POA is certainly an attorney and could "handle" the situation.

There is power in numbers and in this case it certainly seems justified. How can DC expect an owner of a $45,000 car to "eat" a set of wheels when such an excessive amount of owners seem to have the same problem.

Judge Judy would even rule in your favor! They continued the vendor through multiple product years knowing that they had a problem and then they "walked away" from the problem when they discontinued the car! Sure seems like a viable case to me.

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It sounds like a fantastic idea but the only member that has claimed to be an attorney is Orange. I believe he is just starting out. Are there any that have been in practice for a while or does it really matter?
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Boyz.....

It probably doesn't matter about the time in service for the attorney as this issue will never go to court. DC will simply "bend over, grab their ankles and brace for the financial pain that they have coming to them."

They clearly knew about this problem and yet, they took no real corrective actions. This is the stuff that class actions are made of yet we all know that they will settle.

I don't seem to have a problem although, to be honest, I have not looked that closely. I can assure you that I feel for those of you who do and the manufacturer of the Prowler, not the wheel company, should take care of the problem.

Let DC go after American Racing. Chances are that they had a performance bond on them anyway. This is DC's problem not yours and I can assure you that American Racing is going to do nothing for you as the end-product user. If DC goes after them, that will certainly give them the Hershey Squirts and they will probably make a deal with DC to foot some of the bill.

Most of us seem to have low mileage cars and I am sure that given all of the circumstances that I have read and heard about this is a "slam dunk case." The Prowler owners have clearly been "wronged" and DC should get a letter and a chance to cure prior to the filing of the suit.

If they do not respond favorably, and chances are they will not, then the suit should be filed within 1 week and the affected owners should enjoy the rewards of having the problem rectified by DC.

It is that simple. Don't make it hard, just do something. If nothing else "settle" for a free 5 year unlimited milage warrenty extension. (Just a thought)

The Old Man

This message has been edited by Scot Stern on 02-23-2005 at 09:13 PM

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No lawsuit is ever simple. It is stretched out by the attorneys until they get a huge windfall. I was involved in a class action suit. I never received a cent.
It was against AIWA. They just stall forever and then claim they could not find you.
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Scott--that extended warranty wont help those that have voided it ,like myself, with engine work. There are other quality issues, but I just want the visible ones fixed.I can live with the rest. What if someone pens a letter and we try to get a large number of POA members to send copies to both American and DC to notify them about the problem? If it hasn't bitten you yet, chances are that it will eventually.(I'm sure they already know about it even though someone on the board said they had contact with an American engineer that wasn't aware. ) We could mention company loyalty and exposure to the press for leverage if no action is taken. Just a thought--any other ideas?
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These are all great ideas... I doubt if any kind of action if successfully will help us owners here in Canada,
there were only 673 Prowlers made for the Canadian market...
Regardless of that , i will participate in any campaign you guys want to undertake....
the laws were make to protect the consumers against being fleeced by companies offering warranty and claims of good workmanship,
then actually not coming across with either.
It is our right to have this issue addressed...these companies count on us grumbling and then giving up.. without costing them a cent. On so many occasions action isn't taken until people start yelling in public.. once the issues get publicity, they get settled.
Why not use a guy like Brock Yates for our benefit, He doesn't like our cars and would be looking for a reason to yelp about it... consequences ? Maybe more people will actually recognize what great machines we own, more people will want them, hey its supply and demand... demand goes up...prices go up... that won't hurt my feelings at all.

there are a lot of you guys going to the dells.... discuss it , maybe it would be a good place to start...

either way we go..... i'll be there.

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Originally posted by butchcee:
that extended warranty wont help those that have voided it ,like myself, with engine work.:

If you're talking about the wonderful Chrysler MaxCare Extended warrantee, we're all out of luck - IT SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDES WHEELS!!!

-GRROWL

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Let's assume a perfect scenario. We file class action lawsuit. Chrysler settles but does not admit fault. Lawyers get $800,000. We each get a check for $1.08.

This message has been edited by MDProwler on 02-25-2005 at 08:33 AM


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