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whealy
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posted 08-12-2005 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whealy     
You have got to be kidding me ... all this for that ???


Scientists find errors in global warming data

Satellite and weather-balloon research released Friday removes a last bastion of scientific doubt about global warming, researchers say.

Surface temperatures have shown small but steady increases since the 1970s, but the tropics had shown little atmospheric heating - and even some cooling. Now, after sleuthing reported in three papers released by the journal Science, revisions have been made to that atmospheric data.


Climate expert Ben Santer of Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California, lead author of one of the papers, says that those fairly steady measurements in the tropics have been a key argument "among people asking, 'Why should I believe this global warming hocus-pocus?' "


After examining the satellite data, collected since 1979 by National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration weather satellites, Carl Mears and Frank Wentz of Remote Sensing Systems in Santa Rosa, Calif., found that the satellites had drifted in orbit, throwing off the timing of temperature measures. Essentially, the satellites were increasingly reporting nighttime temperatures as daytime ones, leading to a false cooling trend. The team also found a math error in the calculations.


"Our hats are off to (them). They found a real source of error," says atmospheric scientist John Christy of the University of Alabama at Huntsville, whose team produced the lower temperature estimates.


When examining the balloon data, Yale University researchers found that heating from tropical sunlight was skewing the temperatures reported by sensors, making nights look as warm as days.


Once corrected, the satellite and balloon temperatures align with other surface and upper-atmosphere measures, as well as climate change models, Santer says.


Global warming's pace over the past 30 years has actually been quite slow, a total increase of about 1 degree Fahrenheit. It is predicted to accelerate in this century.


Mark Herlong of the George C. Marshall Institute declined to comment. The group, financed by the petroleum industry, has used the data disparities to dispute the views of global-warming activists. In recent years, however, the institute has softened its public statements, acknowledging that the planet is indeed getting warmer but still maintaining that the change is happening so slowly that the impact is minimal.



Fat Pat
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posted 08-12-2005 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fat Pat     
They have spent zillions of your tax dollars studying "global warming"...kinda like the 500 mil they spent studying cow flagellation's effect on the atmosphere....gimme a f'n break!!


Thunder
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posted 08-12-2005 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thunder     
The studies, surveys, and countless meetings that accomplish nothing are just a way of putting off dealing with it...because...that is gonna hurt, you know...oil companies....friends of oil companies, relatives of friends of oil companies.

The Icefields and huge icebergs are melting at a record setting pace, recently a piece of ice the size of the state of main broke off an iceberg thousands of years old.

Global warming is not an illusion, however....we all know some people only hear what they want to hear.

The next wars are going to be fought over fresh water. Oil will be long gone.

We are killing this planet faster than we think. The people who could possibly make change are all bought and paid for. We are really lacking any type of Global leadership. Are we really just sheep?

ALLEY CAT
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posted 08-13-2005 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALLEY CAT     
Thunder - you can't be serious? Hell,,,we'll all die in our own trash and human waste before drowning in melted ocean water. Over population is the real problem.


Thunder
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posted 08-13-2005 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thunder     
Hey Alley Cat,

I agree we will destroy this planet long before the oceans drown us....global warming is just another cog in the wheel of self destruction.

Marty Usher
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posted 08-13-2005 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Usher     
Yes - I believe that the average temps are increasing slightly, but I don't believe in any of the so called "scientific" data that supports that humans contribute significantly to the effect. Earth's temperatures are cyclical and are (and always have been)always changing. Our planet has gone through numerous cycles. Computer "simualtions" on the future effect of global warming are just guesses. Even they vary by as much as 400% - how accurate is that?

Should we allow pollution to run unabated, of course not. But nobody has any real idea how much human activities contribute to the situation nor what effects will result.

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