posted 08-14-2005 04:03 PM         

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Originally posted by tangled up in BLUE:
the Viper was using Premium like it was 25 cents per gallon....

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Taco Bell - raise the price of your smokes 10 cents per pack, lol.

posted 08-14-2005 04:08 PM         

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Originally posted by ALLEY CAT:
Taco Bell - raise the price of your smokes 10 cents per pack, lol.

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posted 08-15-2005 08:33 AM         

Rack (wholesale) prices went up 19 to 26 cents between last Tuesday to Friday.

MD - You're right. Retail dealers are just the opposite of "making a killing". Most of their margins have tightened to marginal points or they are selling at cost. We serve approx. 160 stations in NC & VA. 16 went brankrupt in the past 18 months and 28 are for sale. A few are broke and don't realize it.

Gene - Yeah many don't realize that you turn the inventory before you can realize the gain. Most people don't believe you when you tell then that retail street prices don't react as quickly as wholesale prices. You and I get killed in up markets and try to make it up in down markets.

AC - I know you are not flaming us in the gasoline business. You wait to flame us on other more important stuff like Kat colors, weather, etc.!

Mean Cat - In my opinion you hit it on the nose. Refineries have been shut down and you can't even get a permit for pipeline renovations much less expansion. Low refining and distribution system capacity along with increase demand results in spikes. To slow demand, prices keep getting bumped, but guess what - demand has not fallen.

If retailers/distibutors aren't making money, who is? Major oil co.s and banks. IMO. The majors are charging more simply because they can (why does a dog lick himself?), but the banks/credit card co.s are really tonning it with little effort and are flying below the radar. They charge (in most cases) on a percentage of retail sales anywhere from 2.5 to 3.5%. 3% on $2.50 vs. $.90 (20 months ago) is a tremendous increase without any additional effort expended. Most retailers don't make a 3% margin in an up market and work their buns off.

Pumpkin - As usual you facts are right on, but the actual amount of gas extracted from a barrell of oil is very dependent on the quality of the oil. The oil quality can vary greatly. Chromer can probably enlighten us here.

Sorry for the long post, but you guys asked and I took the opportunity to vent.

thats $3.97/gal. us funds

posted 08-15-2005 09:39 PM         

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Originally posted by pumpkin:
@@###**&&&&(&^%$. Which means $2.55 for the Kat. New Mexico

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posted 08-16-2005 07:29 AM         

If I remember correctly, there are 6 states that have a wholesale component tied to their gasoline tax. As the wholesale price increases a percentage of the tax increases also.
My home state of NC is one of the six.

posted 08-16-2005 09:00 AM         

Arizona soon goes to 'winter fuel blend' to satisfy the environmental federal guidelines,,,,another 10 to 15 cents will be added

posted 08-16-2005 10:09 AM         

Americans love their cars and love to drive. Unfortunately we're married to one source and one source only for fuel, so we are extremely vulnerable to price shocks like we have now.

In my mind, it's like stocks, ya gotta diversify and create alternatives so that when this sort of crap happens we don't take in the shorts so hard.

We keep hearing that oil is a finite resource and it's not going to last forever. I'd hate to see the US waiting and waiting and then scrambling to replace oil when the supply is running out.

posted 08-16-2005 11:51 AM         

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Originally posted by SILVRKAT:
Over $3.00 a gallon on the lake here, so the boat sold sat. is the Prowler next?

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I know the feeling..

I haven't taken my boat out since April. It just isn't fun anymore at these prices. I remember when I thought $1.99 on the lake was bad. Putting $100.00 in my boat would be like putting $5.00 in my car. The bad part is that without using it I'm spending about $1k a month for nothing!
Maybe it's time for it to go.

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Originally posted by halicat:
if we converted our cars to methane and increased our intake of beans we should be able be self powered...

We would need AC's almost patented "Human Methane Collection Suit" and the "Prowler Methane Collection Harness" AC sells both for $29.95. the Harness comes with a Drip Tray and special cleaner.

Rolling Cowboy approved..

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Get ready AC....

by next week the orders will be pouring in....