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posted 01-06-2024 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garysss     send a private message to garysss   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by garysss
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Amazing car. The power and speed is mind blowing. More of a status symbol than anything else.



Ditto what Dave said about the car, but let's not overlook the Awesome garage in the back ground in beginning of video. It looked like 5 doors on each side of house/Man cave in the middle. Possibly 2-4 cars deep for each door.

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Hertz to Sell 20,000 EVs in Shift Back to Gas-Powered Cars


Hertz’s shares fell 4.3% to $8.95 as of 10:01 a.m. in New York. The stock declined 32% last year.
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The EV fiasco has descended into farce. Just ask Hertz
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Some of the Teslas, which are no more than two years old, have been listed for sale at $14,000 – little more than a third of their $40,000 price tag when new. The company says it will take a loss of $245 million but it seems to have little choice given the lack of demand from customers and the vehicles’ higher repair costs.
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-ev-fiasco-has-descended-into-farce-just-ask-hertz/ar-AA1mRIcQ?ocid=iehp&pc=EUPP_&cvid=bdabccafeaad478688ebc5b06a78a5d5&ei=14

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Oh baby its COLD out there,,
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Chicago-area Tesla charging stations lined with dead cars in freezing cold: 'A bunch of dead robots out here'
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Originally posted by garysss:
I'm sure it won't run all the time, especially when no cars are charging, but I would bet if 4 cars are charging at same time it would running. If it has to run at all it is kinda defeating the purpose.

Well, you can’t get gas (or diesel ) without electric so I’m not sure of the point being made here.

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Well I guess there is always what I did when I was young.. I would walk with a gas can with my thumb out to some place that has power and gas and walk back.. Gas it, and go... Most of the time I got a ride. When your 13 and have a Honda 90 cycle and your parents would not let you ride it on the public roads and that you could only ride it in the woods behind your house.. Then there is the old trick of getting gas in your mouth when siphoned out of your parents car. I even rode it with a bad battery for awhile and would just push start it.. Something you can't do with a battery operated car.. Massive paper route enabled me to buy the Honda at 10 years old for $125.00.. Sonoco 260 was 42 cents a gallon. John(onecatnodog)

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Well, you can’t get gas (or diesel ) without electric so I’m not sure of the point being made here.

I was thinking that if the generator had to run for 3 hours while it charged the electric car, so electric car could drive 3 more hours before it needed another charge. It would have used the same if the car was not electric.

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Gary,,, You didn't mention about that 2,250 gallon fuel tank you have buried in the back yard by the garage,,,,and you hand-pump 10 gallons UP at a time to fuel your cars.
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Very impressive fuel pump you have, and don't need electricity
to get gas UP...
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I didn't want to mention that you require Cindy to pump and fill her own car....but I'm rattin on you, lol

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a little education for those that don't know


www.youtube.com/watch?v=K64HQ5ZPfdQ

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Originally posted by enzprowl:
a little education for those that don't know


www.youtube.com/watch?v=K64HQ5ZPfdQ


So they tried to be unbiased and did put some blame on the infrastructure and and the cars losing capacity and ability to charge in the extreme cold, and yet they still seemed to put more blame on uneducated drivers / owners and too many cheaper model EV’s being driven. The Mustang owner charged his car at 1:30 AM the previous night. How often do you go to the gas station to fill up at 1:30 AM. And he is obviously part of the problem as hinted to at the beginning by not having a home charger. Nothing in that video would change my mind about buying an EV under current circumstances with infrastructure etc. I still believe this EV push and in some cases mandates are iexamples of putting the cart before the horse.


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The expression cart before the horse is an idiom or proverb used to suggest something is done contrary to the natural or normally effective sequence of events.[1] A cart is a vehicle that is ordinarily pulled by a horse, so to put the cart before the horse is an analogy for doing things in the wrong order.[2] The figure of speech means doing things the wrong way round or with the wrong emphasis or confusing cause and effect.[3][4

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I checked locally and Mustang EV’s starting MSRP was listed as starting at $47,000 but only a small number were actually under $50,000


Of the first 42 listed, 21 were over $59K, an additional 8 were over $56K

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Obviously EV infrastructure is not what it needs to be. There need to be more charging stations available. They should be able to support the vehicles they serve. Charging stations need to be more reliable and quickly repaired if not working. This obviously is not the case. Therefore I agree with Rick, “the horse is coming before the cart”. In time this will change. Im sure gasoline vehicles had some of the same problems when they were first introduced. Roads were crap. Gas’s stations were few and far between. They were usually located on the outskirts of town because of the high volatility of the fuel. They didn’t want the town to burn down.
EVs are a completely different type of vehicle than we are use to. Instead of fossil fuel it uses stored energy from a battery. EV drivers need to educate themselves on how to use, manage, and maintain the vehicle. Battery range, charge times, and milage are affected by many variables. They operate differently from fossil fuel vehicles. Many people who purchase these vehicles don't realize this. Don’t expect the dealer to educate you. All they want to do is sell or lease the car. As time goes on battery life will increase. Batteries will be manufactured with less toxic and more environmental friendly materials. Charging stations will become more reliable and numerous. EV prices will fall and be competitive with gas’s vehicles. EVs may not appeal to many right now but the appeal will get better. Just give them time. The government just needs to butt out. Supply and demand will decide what sells.
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Unfortunately the gouging will not stop with dealers unless they are cut off by the manufacturer. They are too greedy .
They should take lessons from Tesla , 5 minutes on the app to buy and 10 minutes picking up your car . No pressure , no hassles.


quote:
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I checked locally and Mustang EV’s starting MSRP was listed as starting at $47,000 but only a small number were actually under $50,000


Of the first 42 listed, 21 were over $59K, an additional 8 were over $56K


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"Ford is cutting F-150 Lightning production, citing slow sales of the electric truck.

The move will impact about 1,400 employees, Ford said.

Automakers have struggled to right-size EV manufacturing with decreased consumer demand."

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"Stellantis CEO warns of EV ‘bloodbath’ and ‘race to the bottom’ if car makers follow Elon Musk’s lead and start cutting prices"
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Disaster by the day,,,, just one big cluster money grab. Just another inadvertent tax on the consumer!!!!
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Tesla Drivers Wait 90 Minutes To Find Spot At This New York City Supercharger
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Hurry up ,,,,,,, and WAIT

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No shortage of Tecla's ready to be delivered...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkAn8YO1r-g
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Hertz loses another $200 million from its EVs

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Car rental operator Hertz (HTZ) reported it lost another $200 million due to its EV gamble.

In its first quarter earnings report, Hertz said it “upsized” its prior EV fleet drawdown plans by an additional 10,000 EVs, which led to the company incurring a $195 million charge to vehicle depreciation for writing down the value of EVs held for sale.

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http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/hertz-loses-another-200-million-from-its-evs/ar-AA1nF77u#:~:text=Car%20rental%20operator%20Hertz%20%28HTZ%29%20reported%20it%20lost,down%20 the%20value%20of%20EVs%20held%20for%20sale.
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If interested in buying a used EV, now would be a excellent time to contact Hertz for a deal...

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They ought to ask the gov't to make them whole. We give billions to everyone who asks, why not Hertz. They had a baaaad year, O J dies and then this. Wow.
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Hey,,, OJ was innocent!!!!

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They ought to ask the gov't to make them whole. We give billions to everyone who asks, why not Hertz. They had a baaaad year, O J dies and then this. Wow.

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[B]Hertz loses another $200 million from its EVs

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Car rental operator Hertz (HTZ) reported it lost another $200 million due to its EV gamble.

In its first quarter earnings report, Hertz said it “upsized” its prior EV fleet drawdown plans by an additional 10,000 EVs, which led to the company incurring a $195 million charge to vehicle depreciation for writing down the value of EVs held for sale.

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If interested in buying a used EV, now would be a excellent time to contact Hertz for a deal...[/B]


What I’m finding out is that they are requiring the cars to be 20-40% charged upon return. Nobody wants to deal with that. Especially if you have a flight to catch.


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