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robbieb POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Las Vegas, NV, USA |
posted 01-08-2014 11:48 AM
I've read lots of old ones on here. And now it's happened to me. Mine is a 2002 silver. Started overheating the other day. From what I THINK I understood in the old threads on here about this...the first Prowlers had the wrong kind of antifreeze and would gum up the radiator? So I'm thinking that mine would probably be the 11 year old thermostat? So I took it (against my best instincts) to Prestige Chrysler here in Vegas. I didn't want to, but it's close enough to home that she won't run hot before I get there. Last time I took it there was for a window regulator. They wanted to charge me $1,100 for that!!!! Matter of fact, that's where I usually take my Prowler these days. But I'm scared to drive it that far because it might overheat. So anyway...I took it in yesterday at 8:30 a.m. At 5 p.m. (after calling and not getting any response) I went back to the dealership in person and asked the service writer what the status was with my car. Okay. So today (the next day) the phone rings at 8:30 a.m. (in other words they just opened...so no work has been done today either). The guy proceeds to tell me that it's gonna need a new thermostat, a new waterpump, and a new radiator...total cost $2,600!!!! WTF!!!!!! They didn't even turn a screw or check the thermostat. I said "NO". What a damn ripoff! So now, after that long rant... Is a thermostat readily available at Auto Zone? Or is something I have to special order? |
ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 01-08-2014 11:50 AM
It is nothing special, same as every other thermostat. |
lionberger POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Grosse Ile, MI, USA |
posted 01-08-2014 12:12 PM
I had to replace mine ('97) back in 2009. Stant $15 from Autozone. Get the one that has a safety feature that will keep it from closing and overheating if it fails. My original one broke (fortunately in the open position) so it took the engine a long time to heat up. That is probably all you need. You can even remove the old one temporarily and see if the overheating goes away. Be sure and bleed the system using the fitting on the gooseneck. ------------------ This message has been edited by lionberger on 01-08-2014 at 12:13 PM |
garysss POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Balto. Md. |
posted 01-08-2014 12:56 PM
First off, you didn't say how or when it was overheating. Second, you went back to a place that didn't treat you well the first time. Third, many times it has just been the radiator cap, very easy fix, would try that first. This message has been edited by garysss on 01-08-2014 at 12:56 PM |
jrosser POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lewisburg, Ky. 42256 |
posted 01-08-2014 01:32 PM
If your car is not leaking,probably just your cap.If the shaft on the water pump is loose the pump needs replacing. when this happens the pump starts leaking. Should be a easy fix. |
robbieb POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Las Vegas, NV, USA |
posted 01-08-2014 06:46 PM
Thanks guys. It's just shocking to me that this dealership charges $129 to me TWICE now and has never even turned a screw. And trying to charge me $2600 without even LOOKING at the thermostat...it's just unreal. They just kept telling me over and over: "These cars overheat" GRRRRRRRR..... |
robbieb POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Las Vegas, NV, USA |
posted 01-08-2014 06:48 PM
quote: It was the other day here in Vegas. The outside temperature was around 50 degrees so it wasn't a hot day at all. I was driving back from Best Buy (about a 5 mile trip), and I heard a "ding". Looked down and saw I was up almost to the "H" I got home before it went full out overheated on me. I will try the radiator cap first. Thanks! |
VinceM >POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Mission Viejo, CA, USA |
posted 01-08-2014 07:03 PM
The bad thermostat and radiator cap can likely cause the overheating problem. Another thing to consider is a clogged cooling system and age of the coolant. We had two SoCal Prowlers that had overheating issues. Both owners had the cooling systems machine cleaned and back flushed by a auto repair shop. In both cases sand like material was found in the old coolant. After the back flush and new coolant installed, no more overheating issues. I also learned that not many shops, including the one dealer I was using have the equipment to do back flushing. |
WildCat POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:North Louisville, Indiana, USA |
posted 01-08-2014 07:23 PM
I would suggest you take it to someone you can trust and have the cooling system flushed and change the thermostat and radiator cap. But one thing that some my not know is there is a bleeder in the front of the intake to bleed the air out of the system, so make sure they know that when they flush the system. Good luck ------------------ |
u00tjs2 a POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:ft wayne, in, USA |
posted 01-08-2014 07:36 PM
Replace the cap, if it still overheats, make sure it is full of water and leave cap on first latch and drive across town, to your mechanic. It won't build pressure and no over heat for a short drive. ------------------ |
garysss POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Balto. Md. |
posted 01-08-2014 08:53 PM
Keep us posted as you proceed. Hopefully something simple. |
catfish POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:scottsdale,az,usa |
posted 01-08-2014 10:51 PM
why dont you really find out what the problem is instead of wasting your time and money,how can you fix a problem when you dont know what it is.how old is the coolant.find the real problem and then fix it.if the above post that said they had sand in the coolant then the coolant was at least 15 yrs or more old,it was original coolant.why not screw up your cooling system and never change it. ------------------ This message has been edited by catfish on 01-08-2014 at 10:55 PM |
lowridermike63 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Viersen, Germany |
posted 01-08-2014 11:31 PM
If you've found the error. Then fill the System with rain water and antifreeze. The rain water has no lime, and antifreeze are additives that do the cooling system well. |
catfish POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:scottsdale,az,usa |
posted 01-08-2014 11:38 PM
use distilled water,not rainwater.if it rarely freezes where you are use a 70 percent distilled water and 30 percent coolant.it will cool better with that mixture,and will not freeze.the coolant to use is zerex g05,its a longlife coolant. ------------------ This message has been edited by catfish on 01-08-2014 at 11:40 PM |
lowridermike63 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Viersen, Germany |
posted 01-09-2014 02:27 AM
Sorry, it was just a good advice. I'm in the German tuning Scene, these are experiences of dozens of people. We drive motors with 150hp Performance per 1 liter engine cubic-capacity, I know what I'm talking from. Distilled water resulting in reverse-osmosis, and destroys the cooling system, because it is aggressive to be any metal. These are only subtleties in Detail, which might be helpful. |
catfish POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:scottsdale,az,usa |
posted 01-09-2014 04:46 AM
distilled water will cause no problems,where did you ever come up with that crap. ------------------ |
silverkat POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:upstate NY |
posted 01-09-2014 07:05 AM
What about waterless coolant? |
catfish POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:scottsdale,az,usa |
posted 01-09-2014 08:31 AM
the one co.that made it wa evans coolant,they may be out of business,but im not positive. ------------------ |
lionberger POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Grosse Ile, MI, USA |
posted 01-09-2014 08:38 AM
quote: I always use distilled water to avoid mineral deposits from tap water. ------------------ |
StingRay POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Elk Grove Village, IL, USA |
posted 01-09-2014 08:40 AM
quote: Sounds as if they did "turn a screw", twice - to you! Fool you once, shame on them. Fool you twice, shame on you. Good luck with the overheat - lot's of good advise has been given. |
silverkat POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:upstate NY |
posted 01-09-2014 09:33 AM
quote: Jan You're right it's mfg'd by Evans and costs about $30 per gallon but supposedly works wonders. Go on Ebay and punch in waterless coolant and it's available all over the place. |
ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 01-09-2014 09:43 AM
To obtain an additional 25 to 30 horsepower,,,,I'm using bottled rainwater containing high radioactive particles,, collected exclusively from near the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant in the Ukraine. Its the high voltaic content promotes an extremely higher temperature surrounding the intake valves, thus creating a higher explosion factor from the fuel entering the combustion chamber. http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45967 This message has been edited by ALLEY CAT on 01-09-2014 at 09:44 AM |
Simonsez POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Evansville, IN, US |
posted 01-09-2014 10:29 AM
My '97 thermostat went out on the way to Vegas. Local shop fixed it with the part from Auto Zone. Two hours later and $75 I was back on the road. Thanks to my Prowlin buddies! |
garysss POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Balto. Md. |
posted 01-09-2014 11:02 AM
Good reading Larry, Thanks for Info. Everyone has a opinion as usual. |
ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 01-09-2014 01:21 PM
Gary,,,,Cindy said you also bought some of that Chernobyl Rainwater to use in the radiator. I'll assume it also worked well for you. |
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