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Bob Goetz      POA Site Supporter Mr. Real Rod From:Belle Plaine MN USA |
posted 06-01-2005 06:43 PM
    
Well the first time we came to the conclusion it was excess flashing from the casting that was not machined off. Well just now had the car in the air to do some pre Power Tour maintenance and look what I found, this is not flashing is not a mark in the frame but a crack in the main frame rail, the weld is fine, I guess the battle starts again. 
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pumpkin POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Visit Waleke's World Personal ScrapBook From:Las Cruces, NM, USA |
posted 06-01-2005 06:44 PM
Looks like I will check mine. |
Marty Usher     POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:San Antonio, Texas, United States |
posted 06-01-2005 06:55 PM
I can only imagine the thoughts going throug your mind right now  |
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Bob Goetz POA Site Supporter Mr. Real Rod From:Belle Plaine MN USA |
posted 06-01-2005 07:07 PM
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Marty Usher POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:San Antonio, Texas, United States |
posted 06-01-2005 07:11 PM
Tell them you need a Prowler rental to drive while you are waiting for them to repair! |
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Marty Usher POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:San Antonio, Texas, United States |
posted 06-01-2005 07:13 PM
BTW - you look like your same ole cheerful self in that pic! |
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Bob Goetz POA Site Supporter Mr. Real Rod From:Belle Plaine MN USA |
posted 06-01-2005 07:45 PM
Marty I am going to run it over if I have time tomorrow for them to look at it but I am driving it next week if it continues to crack I will deal with it when I get home. I know you and Bob ( RPL ) will help me do daily checks? ------------------ |
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Marty Usher POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:San Antonio, Texas, United States |
posted 06-01-2005 07:50 PM
I am glad to hear you are still coming on Power Tour. - JUST DON"T DRIVE BESIDE ME!  Meet me in the chat room if you are still online! Of course we will do ANYTHING to help if needed. After Louisville I'll have a vacant seat also. |
Ed W. Prowler Junkie From:Port Huron, MI USA |
posted 06-01-2005 08:15 PM
quote: Sorry Marty, I think he looks like "Heli-coil" on a good day. You might agree as the bottle opening has missed the mouth and approaching the nose. Hey Jim, is this picture yours? |
cnote6           POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Dallas, TX |
posted 06-01-2005 11:15 PM
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1buddyc POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:San Antonio Texas USA |
posted 06-02-2005 12:12 AM
Glad your name was posted by your pic Bob, I wouldnt have recognized you without the beard and headband...(LOL)! |
CJ POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Rochester Hills, MI USA |
posted 06-02-2005 01:00 AM
Bob already said he's bringing the appropriate equipment for repairs!!  |
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Marty Usher POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:San Antonio, Texas, United States |
posted 06-02-2005 07:06 AM
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Steve T POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Weatherford,Texas,USA |
posted 06-02-2005 08:04 AM
Bob - What is the year and mileage on that Prowler? I have a bottle of Silver touch up paint I can send you, that should hold you for a few thousand miles at least. Glad to see your not going to let it stop you from going on the Power Tour!
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butchcee POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lake Ariel, Pa. |
posted 06-02-2005 09:22 AM
Looks like there will be lots of controversy now. Aluminum air hardens over time. Ever try to bend an old screen door frame? It will usually snap before bending. There was a thread showing concern about the aluminum frame 5 years ago. Not sure if it was here or the PPC. If there is a design problem and DC decides to rectify the problem (fat chance like the wheels)I'm sure they'll consider things like the frame braces lots of us have added and the cars that have been hopped up. It will be interesting to see the outcome. |
RADCAT RICH POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:SUGAR LAND, TX. USA |
posted 06-02-2005 10:00 AM
Bob, what is the exact location of this pic on the underside? Al C., do you think that the braces have any bearing on this, that they have been tightened up, verses the flex w/o the braces? |
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pumpkin POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Visit Waleke's World Personal ScrapBook From:Las Cruces, NM, USA |
posted 06-02-2005 10:03 AM
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Bob Goetz POA Site Supporter Mr. Real Rod From:Belle Plaine MN USA |
posted 06-02-2005 10:12 AM
2000 with 40,000 miles. The location is the drivers side main frame rail where the cross member with the motor mounts weld to and just above the jacking pad. The location is so far away from the upper tower where my brace is ( the one I sell ) that I am positive it had no affect in this area. ------------------ This message has been edited by Bob Goetz on 06-02-2005 at 10:13 AM |
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Bob Goetz POA Site Supporter Mr. Real Rod From:Belle Plaine MN USA |
posted 06-02-2005 10:18 AM
Just got off the phone with the shop the DC people told me to call about this and the tech said he can verify the crack upon my visit but can do nothing about it. Once he verifies then they need to make arrangements for a Alcoa rep to inspect and they will make the call on what to do. I wonder if we will be near the Alcoa plant on Power Tour? ------------------ |
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Bcoffman Gray Ghost Prowler Junkie From:Marshall,Mo.65340 |
posted 06-02-2005 10:56 AM
quote: When I was a GM dealer, the factory used this as an excuse to refuse warrantee. Any mods done to the car and the factory rep would refuse any adjustment or repair. I don't know if the factory still treats their customers this way. |
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Marty Usher POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:San Antonio, Texas, United States |
posted 06-02-2005 11:01 AM
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RADCAT RICH POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:SUGAR LAND, TX. USA |
posted 06-02-2005 11:49 AM
Bob, since the location is just above the jack lift pad, do you think it may be from the way you may have over time jacking up the cat, or maybe placing blocks under there while working? / or seems only to be stress fracture only unrelated to jacking? ...and thanks for the reply(location) Rich |
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Bob Goetz POA Site Supporter Mr. Real Rod From:Belle Plaine MN USA |
posted 06-02-2005 12:06 PM
I guess the type of crack will be Alcoas call, I have never jacked the in my shop from the frame jack point, I made a plate that goes on my floor jack and raise it by the control arms 4 inches at a time not to twist the car to the point the locking rod in the steering column jams and place blocks under the tires. So if it was caused by the jacking point I guess that again is a DC problem. The location of the crack really does not bother me for the short term as it is not near the A-arms, worst case they do nothing about it my plan is to grind a V in the crack weld it then grind smooth and cut a plate to go over the top and weld again. ------------------ This message has been edited by Bob Goetz on 06-02-2005 at 12:07 PM |
xpguy POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Carlsbad, CA |
posted 06-02-2005 12:24 PM
Bob, I grew up on a farm outside Toledo, Ohio. We sold off parts of the farm in the 70's and the 80's. The Alcoa plant that made the Prowler frame was built on part of that property. If you are anywhere near Toledo (Northwood, Ohio to be exact) you should stop in. Guy |
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Bob Goetz POA Site Supporter Mr. Real Rod From:Belle Plaine MN USA |
posted 06-02-2005 12:45 PM
Alcoa just called me and requested pictures along with the Vin#, the person I spoke with was very helpful and assured me they would get someone out here ASAP. I think he was a bit surprised when I told him I was going on Power Tour with the car so it will have 3000 more miles on it before he gets to look at it. ------------------ |
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