posted 04-29-2017 12:21 AM                  

Thanks

Rob

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Originally posted by DON WIEBER:
my cable came off twice on the center console. i glued it on so it will not come off. if it comes off you cannot move the cat. you will have to use your credit car as to push in the clips for removal. push the brake in. hold it and have the shifter in n to make the cable as long as possible. needle nose pliers is also helpful. this is a 2 person job.

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posted 08-08-2017 12:56 AM                  

I bought my Prowler the end of last year. I still dont have the ignition issue fixed. I have replaced all ignition components including a new interlock cable. Any ideas? I would really like to drive the car. Any fixes or input is appreciated

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Originally posted by DON WIEBER:
my cable came off twice on the center console. i glued it on so it will not come off. if it comes off you cannot move the cat. you will have to use your credit car as to push in the clips for removal. push the brake in. hold it and have the shifter in n to make the cable as long as possible. needle nose pliers is also helpful. this is a 2 person job.

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posted 08-08-2017 02:11 PM                  

Maybe the wire came off when you were working on radio.

Information and picture is located in 2000 service manual under Transaxle page 21-18.

posted 08-08-2017 02:24 PM                  

I like the .pdf format much better than the hard back manual because of the search function.

posted 08-09-2017 02:11 AM                  

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Originally posted by Tomcal:

Widow... What year is your car? Sometime in the 2000 model run and up, an addition electrical interlock was added. It's referred to as BTSI (Brake Transmission Shift Interlock). This electrical solenoid is located on the left side below the radio & climate control bezel and a little forward. You need to pull back carpet in that area.

Maybe the wire came off when you were working on radio.

Information and picture is located in 2000 service manual under Transaxle page 21-18.

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posted 08-13-2017 02:30 PM                  

How much is that used entire steering column?

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Originally posted by robin:
used parts option

robin

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posted 08-14-2017 04:19 PM                  

Out of frustration I took everything apart again. I left the cable out of the equation and removed it completely. I wanted to deal with the column, tumbler and ignition switch. All works perfect with just those components involved. I regreased all parts and put the shifter in park, then reconnected my old cable we thought was failing and like magic all is working. I quickly put everything together, dropped the top and hit the road! It has been many months of it sitting under a car cover.

After my few hours of cruising...I am having trouble with the ignition again sticking when trying to turn it off. Its not as bad at all as before you just have to play with it and it will turn off.

So what I am going to do now is tear it all apart again and install my new cable but there is a difference in my new cable. My old cable which is factory didn't have this large coiled spring on it at the shifter end of the cable like the new one does. Could my replacement interlock cable be the wrong one even though it shows up as the replacement through Chrysler? Has anyone else here bought the new replacement interlock cable and seen differences?

Thanks

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Originally posted by Tomcal:

Widow... What year is your car? Sometime in the 2000 model run and up, an addition electrical interlock was added. It's referred to as BTSI (Brake Transmission Shift Interlock). This electrical solenoid is located on the left side below the radio & climate control bezel and a little forward. You need to pull back carpet in that area.

Maybe the wire came off when you were working on radio.

Information and picture is located in 2000 service manual under Transaxle page 21-18.

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posted 08-14-2017 07:22 PM                  

It's all in how you adjust things. I would meticulously follow adjustment procedures outline in service manual.

No shortcuts. Remove shifter knob and whole center console completely so you can see what's happening there.

Adjustments are in various places in service manual including steering and transaxle sections. In my 2000 manual they are located in steering 19-40; transaxle 21-34 through 21-37 and 21-137,138.

19-40 as a bold note to follow correct interlock mechanism tightening procedure.

Also, park prowl must be full engaged by rocking car back and forth while in park. You must adjust transmission shift cable first, as both cables interact with each other.

If Padroo can post these relevant pages, I will compare with my 2000 manual. There maybe some updated info in 2000 manual. Page numbering may be off slightly do to BTSI and other addition in 2000 manual. (I do not have a CD manual which makes posting manual pages difficult)

In POA garage section under 2000 OEM parts manual, page 125 shows interlock cable with long spring on shifter end. 1999 parts manual appears to show spring on page 124. 1997 parts manual also shows what appears to be spring on page 121. Interesting.

As a test, I would remove interlock cable from shifter end and see if ignition switch works correctly. Try applying a little pressure on cable at shifter end to simulate spring pressure, since your original cable doesn't have one.

Stay with it. Your very, very close. Be meticulous with adjustments. Keep us updated.

posted 08-15-2017 12:09 PM                  

One of the first tests I did when I tore it all back apart was to leave the shifter/interlock cable out of the picture and just deal with the tumbler and ignition switch. That was a successful test. Those components are fine without the shifter/interlock cable involved.

What I am going to do now is tear it all apart again, install the new $98.00 shifter/interlock cable that I believe was made for a 2000 on up and see if all I am dealing with now is adjustment.

Last night while playing around with this my window regulator went nuts! Haha figures. I posted on another members thread who happened to have the same thing happen this morning.

Thanks everyone for your help

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Originally posted by Tomcal:

Widow, Based on your last response that you did get it to work correctly, for a time, I believe you are very close to resolving the problem without replacing the column.

It's all in how you adjust things. I would meticulously follow adjustment procedures outline in service manual.

No shortcuts. Remove shifter knob and whole center console completely so you can see what's happening there.

Adjustments are in various places in service manual including steering and transaxle sections. In my 2000 manual they are located in steering 19-40; transaxle 21-34 through 21-37 and 21-137,138.

19-40 as a bold note to follow correct interlock mechanism tightening procedure.

Also, park prowl must be full engaged by rocking car back and forth while in park. You must adjust transmission shift cable first, as both cables interact with each other.

If Padroo can post these relevant pages, I will compare with my 2000 manual. There maybe some updated info in 2000 manual. Page numbering may be off slightly do to BTSI and other addition in 2000 manual. (I do not have a CD manual which makes posting manual pages difficult)

In POA garage section under 2000 OEM parts manual, page 125 shows interlock cable with long spring on shifter end. 1999 parts manual appears to show spring on page 124. 1997 parts manual also shows what appears to be spring on page 121. Interesting.

As a test, I would remove interlock cable from shifter end and see if ignition switch works correctly. Try applying a little pressure on cable at shifter end to simulate spring pressure, since your original cable doesn't have one.

Stay with it. Your very, very close. Be meticulous with adjustments. Keep us updated.

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posted 08-16-2017 01:49 PM                  

What I do see on my original interlock cable, the plastic housing at the column holds the interlock cable to a plastic paddle switch. It activates much like a flipper on a pinball machine. However that paddle/flipper is worn. The plastic had worn down and the spring in it seems to have lost some of its power compared to my new cable.

In the next few days I will tear out the old interlock cable and put in the new one again even though the shifter end is different with the large spring on the outside of the cable around the sheathing.

More to come!

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Originally posted by Tomcal:

Since you have 2000 manuals, my page references would apply.

Read them carefully starting with column interlock tightening sequence.

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