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Zapcopd POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:East Meadow NY. USA |
posted 05-22-2012 04:06 PM
I've seen the subject of tires discussed in several different areas but I didn't see the answer to my simple question. Are new run flats still available for the Prowler? I would purchase either original Goodyear's or any other major brand. I tried tirerack but I didn't come up with anything. Thank you Paul |
beachcat BANNED From:Ontario, Canada |
posted 05-22-2012 04:28 PM
Check the Prowler tire forum, 2 sections down from this one. There are some run flat and non-run flat ideas. |
ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 05-22-2012 07:05 PM
At Vegas event,,,I noticed one California cat had a new, full set of Michelin Pilots, runflats I believe? Haven't been able to find them listed on the 'net ,,,, in that rear tire size |
Michael Pond POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Canon City, Colorado |
posted 05-22-2012 07:43 PM
You don't want the Michelin Pilot PS2 run flats. I run them on my Corvette, driven mostly on the hwy and easy. They have 9500 miles and are about worn out. The dealer said I would be lucky to get 10-12000 miles on a set. That is normal for these tires. He recomends getting the Michelin pilot super sport tire. He said I should get at least 30,000 miles on these and they are about $1650 for a set as opposed to $2100 for the PS2's. They are not run flats. |
alrtg POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Westminster, MD, USA |
posted 05-22-2012 08:56 PM
The Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 ZP (Zero Pressure) tire has a tread wear rating of 220. The stock Goodyear EMT tire our cars were delivered with have a tread wear rating of 180 if memory serves. Looking at the current Goodyear RS-A EMT run flat tire, they are advertised as having a tread wear rating of 260. Based on these numbers, the Michelin tire would have a longer life expectancy than the stock Goodyear tires but not as good as the current ones. Here is a quote from Wikipedia about tread wear. I hope it is of some help to those looking for tires. "Notice that the treadwear grade is a ratio and not a mileage. This is because there are a lot of factors that determine treadwear rates and most of them are a function of driving conditions and operating environment, and not the tire itself. As a result, actual tire wear will vary considerably within the same tire line. The phrase "Your mileage may vary" applies here" |
catfish POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:scottsdale,az,usa |
posted 05-23-2012 11:08 AM
goodyear rf were discontinued a long time ago,its possible there may be a couple left,call gy and have them do a nationwide search.also ask,maybe they make something newer, in or close to the size you need. ------------------ |
Michael Pond POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Canon City, Colorado |
posted 05-23-2012 01:24 PM
My Prowler still has the original GY run flats with 12,500 miles, rated at 180, and they still look like new, with 80% tread left on them. The Corvette with Michelin PS2 run flats, rated at 220, are worn out at 9500 miles. Both cars are driven equally. Must be the compound the tires are made of or ???. Weight difference of the two cars is about 300 lbs. Go figure!! |
catfish POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:scottsdale,az,usa |
posted 05-23-2012 01:57 PM
michelin wants to sell more tires.with that kind of mileage,you would have to be a dummy to buy them. ------------------ |
WINDY CITY PROWLER POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:CHICAGO, ILLINOIS. USA |
posted 05-23-2012 06:06 PM
Get yourself some Continental non run flats you will love the ride. Those Run Flats are junk along with the hard ride. |
DON WIEBER POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Avon, mn, us |
posted 05-23-2012 07:26 PM
just got home form vegas with 4200 miles. i put on the continentals just before we went to mi last year. would never go back to run flats. |
StingRay POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Elk Grove Village, IL, USA |
posted 05-23-2012 10:43 PM
Wow, lets bash the runflats ... however, at the core of the design for these tires is the fact that they were developed to "drive your car to a service station, some 50+ miles away, after a punture". Can you do that on a non-runflat? Sure, maybe, but tha 20" Prowler rim will be worthless! This is what's called "a trade-off". |
DON WIEBER POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Avon, mn, us |
posted 05-24-2012 08:11 AM
i have a repair kit and compressor in the cat. i have fixed a run flat for fellow owner with it. it works on both kind tires. |
catfish POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:scottsdale,az,usa |
posted 05-24-2012 02:01 PM
run flats forever for me.if you go to non runflats you will lose the handling qualities.there is no way a non runflat will handle as good as one with runflats. ------------------ |
ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 05-24-2012 05:40 PM
I have no dog in the fight,,,and really don't care which brand or type of tire you buy for a replacement,,,,but I can tell you that NO plug kit or compressor can help you out when you hit something larger than a nail or screw,,, like what happened to this run-flat tire: Now,, tell me your non-run flats can go 125 miles @ 60mph,,,in this condition......with a hole in the side large enough to put both fists in it,,,like happened to our friend Bob 250 miles away from home, in the middle of nowhere. I followed this car that distance, at that speed, to a town where a replacement size tire got him home that day. A non-runflat tire,,,,you are stuck in a world of crap. Pay me now OR pay me later..... Just sayin. I hope it never happens to you. |
Steve Conley POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Tucson,AZ,U.S.A. |
posted 05-24-2012 05:47 PM
I went with the Pirelli Scorpion Verde 294/45/20 All Season RUNFLAT Tires, Very Very Tight Fit. Had to sand weld bead off frame on drivers side?? Just to get wheel on, But when lowered it has a 3/8" clearance. With a Wear Rating of "520" (WOW). Along with Pirelli RUNFLAT front tires. A absolutely Fantastic Ride. Steve |
WINDY CITY PROWLER POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:CHICAGO, ILLINOIS. USA |
posted 05-25-2012 07:02 PM
I know of one person that still has his run flats because he never drives his prowler or goes to events mainly because no one wants him there. If i never drove my prowler and it just sat in the garage i would still have my run flats. But i drive it everyday. |
WINDY CITY PROWLER POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:CHICAGO, ILLINOIS. USA |
posted 05-25-2012 07:08 PM
quote: My Prowler handles a lot better with out the run flats |
catfish POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:scottsdale,az,usa |
posted 05-25-2012 07:36 PM
i think you mean it rides better,not handles better,its impossible for a nonrun to out handle a run flat.do you even kwow the diff. in the makeup of the two types of tires. ------------------ |
beachcat BANNED From:Ontario, Canada |
posted 05-25-2012 08:12 PM
Got this off the internet: If I was putting my wife in a car and sending her across country in a vehicle without a spare tire, I would most definitely see the value in the run flat tires. Now as a performance junkie, I would have to say that I am not the most impressed with the way some of these tires handle or ride. Lets start with an explanation of how the run flat tire actually works, and what is different between these and a conventional tire. The major difference is in the construction of the sidewall of the tire. In the illustration below you will see the difference in the thickness of the sidewall and the way it is constructed. The top section is of a standard tire with normal sidewall construction. The second section is of a run flat tire, you will notice that the sidewall is almost twice as dense.
When the tire loses pressure, the weight of the vehicle actually rests and runs on the sidewall. Think about it! The entire weight of the car is running on the sidewalls! The gotta be stiff to support that! Where does this leave me on run flat tires? If you are willing to make the swap and take the risk of needing to call a tow truck or flat bed in the event of a flat, you will open up a lot more options at a lower price point, that are superior performing tires, and better riding tires! This is a decision you have to commit to pretty whole heartedly, but if you love to drive, your car will thank you! found this at tirerack.com by Gus Liszewski |
StingRay POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Elk Grove Village, IL, USA |
posted 05-25-2012 10:13 PM
quote: Jan, SERIOUSLY ... do you know who you are posing that question to?!? Don't waste your time and invaluable knowledge on the truly ignorant. It will be like, like ... well, like ... |
StingRay POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Elk Grove Village, IL, USA |
posted 05-25-2012 10:19 PM
quote: Roger, runflats have been OEM and standard on every Corvette since the C5 series came out in 1997. There has been no "premium paid", as in an "option" for this type tire. Furthermore, Goodyear was in development with Corvette engineers to maximize performance and handling with the tire installed, while also taking into account ride comfort. Prowler may be no different - as these were not off the shelf tires at the time the car was introduced - they were HUGE, and unique. |
ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 05-25-2012 10:36 PM
Why is it "impossible" for a non runflat to out handle a runflat ? |
catfish POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:scottsdale,az,usa |
posted 05-25-2012 11:29 PM
because of the sidewall,it improves the handling over a non tire.look at the tire with the hugh hole in it besides being a safer tire.end of story. ------------------ This message has been edited by catfish on 05-25-2012 at 11:30 PM |
idive POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Texas USA |
posted 05-26-2012 01:31 AM
After reading this enTIRE thread, careful consideration leads me to say Jan is right. Handling a car with run-flats would be alot better than handling a non run-flat with a hole in it as hugh as that. |
ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 05-26-2012 02:24 AM
What happens if the run flat has a sidewall blow out? Do you really think that if you hit a piece of steal it can't penetrate the run flat? If thicker is better, why not SOLID rubber tires!! Total control and handling, correct? If you are in the middle of the desert and have a run-flat flat, you are still screwed. There is nothing for way more than 50 miles in any direction. Did you EVER drive a Prowler with non-runflats? How can you compare with NO experience ? I just wore out a set of non run-flats and will be putting another set on the rims as soon as they get back from FAST FORWARD. I will never use runflats again. Much too harsh which equals less control. END OF STORY. lol |
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