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DUSTI unregistered Admin Use |
posted 09-02-2004 09:03 AM
   
Well, from what I have learned on the board about this issue / problem, it was all about "cost cutting" on DC's part and not American Racing's inablility to manufacture a quality product !?  ------------------ |
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Jim C Prowler Junkie From:Corona, Ca |
posted 09-02-2004 09:45 AM
Don't know what the out come will be but, I sent these pic's to my friend Dave. Hope you don't mind Zack. He is going to contact his friend and prior co working Engineer at American Racing to see if they had figured out what my have gone wrong. In the mean time does any one out there have pictures of the bubbling prior to peeling so I can send those as will? |
Black Tie 161     POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:MD, USA |
posted 09-02-2004 10:24 AM
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Think DC would have saved more money in the end if they just had the wheels coated properly? It's like when my heating and air people came to my house for Spring service and suggested an air return for our bedroom which gets too hot in summer. I asked since they did the air and vents on our house during construction, why didn't they do it then? They can only do what the builder asks of them...or lose the job. |
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Jim C Prowler Junkie From:Corona, Ca |
posted 09-02-2004 11:26 AM
I was wrong on the casting folks it's a 5 piece die that is an injection molded casting process. this friend of mine seriously would like to see some more pictures. A little piece of history on these wheels.When American Racing was commissioned to do the proto type, they first machined them from an aluminum billet. the casting came into play for cost reasons. there is some machining on these wheels the front receives the most. the back side basically receives more of a rough cut I still believe in the porosity theory. This friend of mine no longer works for American Racing, he's with me at another company. we are both Manufacturing Engineers.He is going to talk with a few of his prior co wakers on the sly, to see if they know of any resolution. there is a program that does exist for fully machining our wheels, "no not the proto type" that one of the workers has in his possession on cd . Ill keep every one informed please need pic's to possibly see were the bubbling starts this should give us some indication on a possible cause. |
Larry Lord Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Colton, CA |
posted 09-02-2004 12:21 PM
For those that have never seen one, here's a picture of a pre-production rear Prowler wheel. These wheels were used on the "Prangler" mule. This wheel is much heavier than the production wheels. It has much thicker spoke webs and front face than the later wheels. I own a pair of the rears and am still trying to find a pair for the front.
This message has been edited by Larry Lord on 09-02-2004 at 12:24 PM |
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Jim C Prowler Junkie From:Corona, Ca |
posted 09-02-2004 12:37 PM
Larry, Let me check with my friend he did make mention that they had some of the proto typs on display at the plant. |
BeWare                POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Acworth , Georgia , USA |
posted 09-02-2004 05:48 PM
I have silver wheels that have had the outside Plated but not the inside barrels. I had the insides painted with the Prowler wheel silver. Most people don't notice. It will be fine unless someday I decide to chrome the front suspension then I am not sure how it will look. |
Gene POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:St.Petersburg,Fl USA |
posted 09-02-2004 06:45 PM
Again Dusty if you are correct that it was a cost issue then I put the total blame on wheel manif.For cutting corners to produce a product that is not to standards.If someone came into my shop and wanted to save money on a paint job then I will refer them elsewhere to a shop that does cheap work,because later when job looks like crap and someone ask who the h-- did that they can't say me.Again just my feeling and way I am. |
blackcat POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:atlanta, ga |
posted 09-02-2004 06:52 PM
I know I've seen many pictures and posts in the past of the problems with the wheels. So where are they? Come on folks please post.......or let's drop the subject. |
toys POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:kensington Conn, USA |
posted 09-02-2004 07:19 PM
OOOOH Please enough!!! with all the theories of cost cutting by DC on the wheels To me that is Bull$hit. Chrome is chrome, and its only as good as the prep and buffing and the expertise of the plater prior to plating. as far as getting them replaced under warrantee what good is another pair just like the other pair Toys Berlin Motorcycle Salvage |
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blackcat POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:atlanta, ga |
posted 09-02-2004 07:25 PM
Toys, so are you saying that it wasn't money just poor workmanship? Just curious. |
idive POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Texas USA |
posted 09-03-2004 12:46 AM
quote: Do a search. |
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blackcat POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:atlanta, ga |
posted 09-03-2004 08:01 AM
Thanks Idive, that was SPECIAL................... I was just trying to help. So much for that thought! |
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idive POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Texas USA |
posted 09-03-2004 01:25 PM
Well, you wanted pics that you know were previously posted and nobody was reposting them for you, it sounds logical to me to use the search. The feature is there, and is very helpful, yet so very underutilized. Everyone wants everyone else to do the search work for them. I'm sure you would find what you are looking for by using the search feature. If my suggestion offends you, then don't use it. But please don't complain about not being able to pursue your goal if you don't use what's available. I was just trying to help too. But for me to repost the pics you want, I would have to use the same search feature that you can use. JMO This message has been edited by idive on 09-03-2004 at 01:26 PM |
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blackcat POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:atlanta, ga |
posted 09-03-2004 04:36 PM
Thanks Idive however if you read the thread I'm not the one looking for pictures........However I thought that if someone had some they'd post them. Oh by the way no offense taken. This message has been edited by blackcat on 09-03-2004 at 04:42 PM |
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idive POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Texas USA |
posted 09-03-2004 11:52 PM
Sorry. I had you and Jim mixed up. |
Zack POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Oklahoma City, OK, USA |
posted 09-04-2004 10:52 PM
Sorry, I've been outta town and away from the computer. Jim, thanks for passing along the pics...if more would help I would be happy to supply them. I'm a new Prowler owner, but I learned even before I purchased that this is a problem. I knew to ask the seller to look for this problem. With this reputation I do think that someone dropped the ball in the quality control department somewhere! My 5 year old Kat looks showroom new....except for the wheels! |
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neal POA Site Supporter DC Certified Prowler Tech From:dallas,tex. u.s.a. |
posted 09-05-2004 08:12 AM
I will post some pics when we get the rims back.this is a good thing,if for any reason the powder coating does not stick,or the vendor damages the wheels,all 4 wheels will be replaced.zack those are the bad.butchee ill let no the cost of this. |
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Zack POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Oklahoma City, OK, USA |
posted 09-05-2004 11:23 AM
Neal, Thanks...let me know the cost too...may be interested. |
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Jim C Prowler Junkie From:Corona, Ca |
posted 09-08-2004 07:10 AM
Guess what the engineering folks back at American Racing had no idea there was a problem with our wheels? My friend Dave talked with the Principle Engineer this past week end. Another thing, soon after the last production run of the Prowler D.C. cut all tie's with American Racing. Oh! Zac your pics and some others were given to this Engineer not that it's going to do any good now.Idive thanks for the info on the search feature, since im new i did not realize it was there... |
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Zack POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Oklahoma City, OK, USA |
posted 09-08-2004 01:17 PM
Jim, Let us know if your friend gets any feedback from American Racing. |
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Jim C Prowler Junkie From:Corona, Ca |
posted 09-08-2004 03:19 PM
Worth reading...http://www.finishing.com/100/39.html |
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idive POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Texas USA |
posted 09-09-2004 02:18 AM
You're welcome Jim. I had written a welcome letter for newbies a while back that mentioned the search feature. I guess it hasn't been incorporated yet. I'm glad you found it ok and hope it helped. |
butchcee POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lake Ariel, Pa. |
posted 09-09-2004 10:40 PM
Larry Mayes, Wildcat, had a set chromed. How are they holding up Larry? This message has been edited by butchcee on 09-09-2004 at 10:41 PM |
01Prowler POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Dallas, TX |
posted 09-09-2004 10:51 PM
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I figured that DC would be returning all the warrantied wheels back to American Racing for replacements/refunds etc... Kinda fishy to me how they cut all ties.... |
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