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Marty Usher POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:San Antonio, Texas, United States |
posted 10-04-2017 02:36 PM
well...my second time as a Prowler Owner has not started out the way I hoped. The car is sitting 175 miles away in a town of 800 people and I don't know that I can trust the one car shop there. The engine will stutter and quit running a split second and then refired right away most of the time but did die once in traffic but restarted as soon as I came to stop and tried to restart. It mainly sputtered when accelerating. I have read about 8-10 threads on here about what seems to be same symptom...some saying fuel issue...others this or that sensor..and several about reflashing or replacing the RCU... BUT..I can't find any thread (yet) where someone posted what actually fixed the problem Any body remember the solutions that worked? Thanks |
ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 10-04-2017 03:39 PM
quote: How in the world would you come to that conclusion without knowing the seller? Berating the seller without knowing them or much about the car being sold..... (oh yeah, its an old pattern displayed before) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Apparently the car ran OK from southern Calif to within 175 miles of San Antonio..... appox. 1,100 miles without an issue? Marty,, might be a better decision to get a U-Haul car trailer and going to pick-up the car and take it back to San Antonio to be diagnosed for what caused this problem to happen? Good luck with whatever you decide... |
ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 10-04-2017 04:13 PM
Wow, I hate to read that. It is really frustrating having a problem and not having a clue to where to start, especially on the road. Maybe you will have a temporary reprieve and be able to make it home and start the investigative process. Good luck. Hopefully it will be simple and cheap. |
Grt guy657 Prowler Enthusiast From:cottonwood ,Al. USA |
posted 10-04-2017 04:30 PM
if you use a U-Haul be carefull loading ,bottom will hang up . ramps to steep you will need some 2x6 boards to level up |
Marty Usher POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:San Antonio, Texas, United States |
posted 10-04-2017 04:43 PM
The story gets better... First of all the dealer selling it deals in high end cars...Ferrari, Lambo, Bentley, etc. He took the Prowler in on trade with 2 other cars on a 1/4 million dollar Bentley. I chose not to buy a warranty but the dealer is going to take care of me for the most part...I have no issues with him at the moment. The car just had a new battery and alternator installed this week. I took the car knowing it did not have the proper tensioner for the AC belt but that the dealer would pay for it when I got the work done back in San Antonio...so driving through desert with no AC but that part was fine. So I paid "Stoney" the only tow truck guy $120 cash to haul it 30 miles to nearest "garage" last night. I put the keys in a plastic bag and tucked them into the inside of the passenger rim. Rebecca drove 2 1/2 hours to come get me as I had a business meeting this morning at 8 AM. I have left the garage 6 voice mail messages today and no answer/ no reply...not a good sign. Buddy Collins is stepping up and letting borrow a trailer and pick up tomorrow evening and I will drive up there 5 AM Friday morning to pick up.. Got quotes to haul it to place here in San Antonio ranging form $630 on low side to over $800...ouch. Now that I know how and where I will be taking it I need to figure out where to suggest they start looking for the issue so I don't spend a grand or more "trying" one sensors and then another. |
Marty Usher POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:San Antonio, Texas, United States |
posted 10-04-2017 04:56 PM
so after all that, it looks like Edscat had same issue but he passed away Dave Haggas may have had same issue over in Great Britain I saw a few others also. Just looking for what the final cure was..fuel pump, O2 sensors, electrical short, battery cables, ECU.... I think I read recently about a company that will reflash the ECU ...something like B&G or something like that but after searching came up blank. Hoping someone here knows what actually fixed the problem. I realized lots of people post when they have issues and are trying things to find the "fix" but a lot do not come back and post the results. I found old posts of my own where I was guilty of that also so maybe I will remember that in the future in case it can help someone else |
SirReal POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Burtonsville,Md Good ole U.S.A |
posted 10-04-2017 05:00 PM
Marty I'm glad you're back in a Prowler and sorry for this temporary setback but I know you'll find the problem and be back on the road soon. Best of luck! Jeff |
Tomcal POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Commack, NY, USA |
posted 10-04-2017 05:00 PM
Ouch... First thing is to check for error codes. Then make sure you have good clean battery connects at battery and ground on chassis. Have fuel pressure tested. Crank sensor and cam senor would be next up. These sensors are not expensive. PCM failure with symptoms of this type are rare. Keep us updated so we can help. This message has been edited by Tomcal on 10-04-2017 at 05:15 PM |
katmat POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:PALOS PARK, IL, US |
posted 10-04-2017 05:05 PM
Sounds like a fuel issue but as a guy told me a long time ago "if it seems like a fuel issue it is probably electrical & vise versus" Good Luck Marty!! |
garysss POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Balto. Md. |
posted 10-04-2017 05:17 PM
Sorry to hear about your bad luck Marty. I know you would have felt better if you could have made it home. |
georgieboy POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lake Don Pedro, CA USA |
posted 10-04-2017 05:23 PM
Dirty fuel filter. Happened to me once in another car. Sounds just like it. I had gotten bad gas with a lot of rust particles in it. Cleaned filter everything was fine. |
Marty Usher POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:San Antonio, Texas, United States |
posted 10-04-2017 06:11 PM
all those things are on my list to have checked...just hope the car (and keys) are still there when I go back to get it Friday morning |
mine2 Prowler Enthusiast From:Portage, MI |
posted 10-04-2017 08:35 PM
I have a 99 and had similar issues. I replaced the crank sensor, cam sensor and the fuel Pump. I found that the OEM electrical parts are the only ones to use when replacing. Prowlers do not like aftermarket electrical parts..( found this out , trial and error). Thought it was one of the computers and had them checked and it was not. Doug |
Marty Usher POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:San Antonio, Texas, United States |
posted 10-04-2017 09:01 PM
quote: so did replacing crank sensor, cam sensor and the fuel pump |
mine2 Prowler Enthusiast From:Portage, MI |
posted 10-04-2017 09:18 PM
By replacing them it did take car of my issue, and I have been running with no issues since. More than a year now, My Prowler does have over 100k miles. We took it on a long road trip 600 mile round trip with no issues. |
Beachkat2 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Wasaga Beach, Ontario, Canada |
posted 10-04-2017 09:26 PM
I sold Ed'sCat Ed an ECU form a 2001 prowler and that fixed his issue. Sorry he passed away. He was a good guy and I sent him quite a few parts for his refurbished prowler. |
mslc10 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Bulverde, Texas, United States |
posted 10-04-2017 10:21 PM
Dave haggas' fix was crank sensor..... http://www.prowleronline.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/004747-7.html Toohipcat ( I assume) was an ecm. Do you want to try my spare? This message has been edited by mslc10 on 10-04-2017 at 10:24 PM |
TLRandall POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:CALDWELL, TX, US |
posted 10-04-2017 10:33 PM
My trailer is 4 hours away from San Antonio, but I could bring it Friday or Saturday if needed. |
Marty Usher POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:San Antonio, Texas, United States |
posted 10-05-2017 06:53 AM
Thanks everyone - mine2, Mark, beach2, Tom for the responses...at least I have direction to have the tech look at. Mark - before I buy or reflash the computer, yes I may want to borrow your spare to see if that fixes the problem before spending the money....thanks Tom - I appreciate the offer...Buddy Collins is helping me out with a truck/trailer. |
RPL POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Rochester Hills, MI, USA |
posted 10-05-2017 08:58 AM
Each of these cars may have a different issue. It's very important to check everything first before assuming what the problem is. People jump to conclusions. Mechanics check first. Everyone else is just a parts replacer. |
Marty Usher POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:San Antonio, Texas, United States |
posted 10-05-2017 02:46 PM
quote: agreed Bob - just want the shop/mechanic to know what has been reported but will let them sort it out |
BeWare POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Acworth , Georgia , USA |
posted 10-05-2017 04:48 PM
Good Luck. I would be a nervous wreck if I were in your shoes. Not even knowing if the car is still there and not getting any return phone calls. This message has been edited by BeWare on 10-05-2017 at 04:50 PM |
TFischer POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Texas, USA |
posted 10-06-2017 09:40 AM
Maybe call the local PD and have them take a drive over to make sure all is well. So sorry to hear this is happening. I hope you get it picked up and handled today. Good luck and safe travels. |
Marty Usher POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:San Antonio, Texas, United States |
posted 10-06-2017 02:24 PM
left home 5 AM driving Buddy Collins Viper pick up and his open trailer....arrived at Sonora about 7:45 AM, loaded the Prowler on the trailer, tied it down and cruised back to San Antonio through the Texas Hill Country doing the 80 MPH speed limit and the Viper truck never struggled to maintain speed event up 7% grade hills. I am thankful the Prowler started so I could drive it on the trailer...but would not start when dropping it off at service shop...it is on good hands now! Huge thanks for Buddy for volunteering his truck and trailer! I really was impressed with the Viper truck... a dozen years old and still looks new and mean!....rides great, towing was a breeze.. now I just Buddy to decide where Rebecca and I can take him to Felici to dinner when I get back from my upcoming businesstrip! |
BeWare POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Acworth , Georgia , USA |
posted 10-06-2017 02:34 PM
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