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Originally posted by mslc10:
So now I'm curious.......what's the deal wth the prowler store? What's with all the hostility?

They are grossly overpriced on some products. On others, they are the only source. Some claim that they have questionable business practices.
To my knowledge, there has never been an issue with
shipping or refunds, etc. If they have something you want and you've done price comparisons, you should feel confident buying from them IMO. I have in the past with success.

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Not entirely true. I believe Ed Monahan bought something from them and it was broken when he received it. He returned it (or wanted to) and they wanted to keep $100.00 for a restocking fee. Add to that the fact that they are overpriced on most items and often copy other's products to sell them themselves. For example, AlleyCat's chrome grill treatment consisted of about $10 in door edge guard. The store took the idea and sold it for about $95. At one point, they bought a Mopar trailer hitch, copied it, then returned it to the seller as defective, and started making their own. The animosity felt toward them is well earned. They're unscrupulous in their business dealings and even have named their store to confuse many prowler owners to think they are the prowler store on this site (or related to this site).
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Originally posted by idive:
Not entirely true. I believe Ed Monahan bought something from them and it was broken when he received it. He returned it (or wanted to) and they wanted to keep $100.00 for a restocking fee. Add to that the fact that they are overpriced on most items and often copy other's products to sell them themselves. For example, AlleyCat's chrome grill treatment consisted of about $10 in door edge guard. The store took the idea and sold it for about $95. At one point, they bought a Mopar trailer hitch, copied it, then returned it to the seller as defective, and started making their own. The animosity felt toward them is well earned. They're unscrupulous in their business dealings and even have named their store to confuse many prowler owners to think they are the prowler store on this site (or related to this site).

What if a member wants a hardtop for their Prowler? They are the only source. Can they not have a hardtop because certain members hate them. What if you have a good experience w/them. Is that not as valid as those who have had a bad experience Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. No?

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Idive, your allegations are not accurate either. For instance, their grill kit is not $95 but is $65 and if you saw the product and heard what Andria said about the packaging and preparation, you might see it to be a reasonable price from someone in business to make a profit.

There will always be complaints about any retailer.I think most of us can make our own decisions on whether they are good or bad.

The fact is, they have some nice products that are not available elsewhere. Just because some had a bad experience, does not mean others will.

Someone asking for info on their reputation should be given both sides of the story and then make their own grown-up decision.

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Originally posted by idive:
Not entirely true. I believe Ed Monahan bought something from them and it was broken when he received it. He returned it (or wanted to) and they wanted to keep $100.00 for a restocking fee. Add to that the fact that they are overpriced on most items and often copy other's products to sell them themselves. For example, AlleyCat's chrome grill treatment consisted of about $10 in door edge guard. The store took the idea and sold it for about $95. At one point, they bought a Mopar trailer hitch, copied it, then returned it to the seller as defective, and started making their own. The animosity felt toward them is well earned. They're unscrupulous in their business dealings and even have named their store to confuse many prowler owners to think they are the prowler store on this site (or related to this site).

Ed's problem was with Prowl97, not Prowlerstore. Others have had problems though. As stated many things are priced very high, some not so bad. Bottom line, do your research and know what your buying.

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Just for the record,,,,,,their original, presumably stolen idea from this website,,,,,,,,,,,,,pre-cut, chrome grill molding kit 'did sell for' $95.00. It may be $65 now,,,still overpriced for $10 worth of material,,but hey, if one wants to spend the dollars, its their business to do so.

Their outside vendor made Prowler hardtop does look acceptable to me.....most of their other products, I can't get too excited about....

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Originally posted by ALLEY CAT:
Just for the record,,,,,,their original, presumably stolen idea from this website,,,,,,,,,,,,,pre-cut, chrome grill molding kit 'did sell for' $95.00. It may be $65 now,,,still overpriced for $10 worth of material,,but hey, if one wants to spend the dollars, its their business to do so.

Their outside vendor made Prowler hardtop does look acceptable to me.....most of their other products, I can't get too excited about....


Larry, I did your grill mod as soon as I came on this site and I was thankful to you for making me aware of it.

But it did take about an hour to cut the pieces properly. Some might not feel confident doing that and $65 for product and an hour's work is not bad IMO.

As far as stealing it goes, once you put a product out in the public forum, and unless you have protected the design in some way, it becomes available for anyone's use and profit. So they didn't steal it. They simply seized an opportunity.

And surely you can't complain about a 30% price drop???

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If folks keep supporting that site they will continue to charge outrageous prices. If they get stuck with a lot of products, they might decide to lower prices to get rid of some of it.
What they did with the hitches was unbelievable. They really screwed over the guy selling it. They bought it and then claimed it was scratched and he got stuck paying shipping both ways, due to eBay's policy.
If you think they are a good vendor and are fair, keep supporting them. The grills they sell are pieces of junk.
They also stole Tom Mills ideas for the bumper replacement kit.
Do what YOU fell is the right thing, not what we are telling you. Make up your own mind. I won't buy anything from them, myself but everyone can decide for themselves.
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Its all good,,,,,I didn't care that they 'borrowed the idea' from this site....I just objected to the $95 original charge......> Bend over and grab your socks!

Yes,,,many Prowler owners have no manual skills (I've observed) to cut and do the process, and I said they can spend their money however they want. As H.C. says...."What difference does it make"

Glad you did your own grill and $aved......after seeing that wiring job on your old truck, I knew you could do it, lol

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quote: "The grills they sell are pieces of junk."


Agree,,,,just about as bad as the ones Grace produced....or she tried to produce > total crap, imo

Are people still waiting for Grace's grill to arrive someday?

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Originally posted by silverkat:
What if a member wants a hardtop for their Prowler? They are the only source. Can they not have a hardtop because certain members hate them. What if you have a good experience w/them. Is that not as valid as those who have had a bad experience Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. No?

I agree with silvercat's statement. I think that there are more people with good experiences from the Prowler Store than bad. I am one of them. I've purchased several items from them and have yet to have a bad result from them. Silvercat is happy with the hardtop that he bought from them and I am going to order one shortly. As to the allegation that the Prowler Store took their name to confuse Prowler owners from ordering things from the POA Prowler store, I don't buy into that theory. If you check out the Prowler Store's website you will see that they also have A Camaro Store, Viper Store and a new Challenger Store. This tells me they have a lot of capital invested in these parts stores to produce parts for those who own performance or limited production cars like our Prowlers. We should be glad for any of our vendors that supply the parts we need or want, and this includes the Prowler Store. Now if you are not happy with the price, you don't have to buy the product. But it has to be recognized that the Prowler Store offers a lot more in the way of parts that any other vendor that I'm aware of. Personally, if they have what I want and I think it is worth the price, I will continue to buy from them. Just my two cents. Golfboy.

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Originally posted by ed monahan:
If folks keep supporting that site they will continue to charge outrageous prices. If they get stuck with a lot of products, they might decide to lower prices to get rid of some of it.
What they did with the hitches was unbelievable. They really screwed over the guy selling it. They bought it and then claimed it was scratched and he got stuck paying shipping both ways, due to eBay's policy.
If you think they are a good vendor and are fair, keep supporting them. The grills they sell are pieces of junk.
They also stole Tom Mills ideas for the bumper replacement kit.
Do what YOU fell is the right thing, not what we are telling you. Make up your own mind. I won't buy anything from them, myself but everyone can decide for themselves.

They've copied more than just one POA vendor's ideas other than Tom Mills and I do not feel it is necessary for me to list how many of their products were someone else's creation long before they came on the scene.
They have also never been a POA Site Supporting Vendor.

http://www.prowleronline.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/021587.html

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check out this custom cover.


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I agree with silvercat's statement. I think that there are more people with good experiences from the Prowler Store than bad. I am one of them. I've purchased several items from them and have yet to have a bad result from them. Silvercat is happy with the hardtop that he bought from them and I am going to order one shortly. As to the allegation that the Prowler Store took their name to confuse Prowler owners from ordering things from the POA Prowler store, I don't buy into that theory. If you check out the Prowler Store's website you will see that they also have A Camaro Store, Viper Store and a new Challenger Store. This tells me they have a lot of capital invested in these parts stores to produce parts for those who own performance or limited production cars like our Prowlers. We should be glad for any of our vendors that supply the parts we need or want, and this includes the Prowler Store. Now if you are not happy with the price, you don't have to buy the product. But it has to be recognized that the Prowler Store offers a lot more in the way of parts that any other vendor that I'm aware of. Personally, if they have what I want and I think it is worth the price, I will continue to buy from them. Just my two cents. Golfboy.

My post had nothing to do with products that they provide that are not available elsewhere. But since you brought up the hardtops they sell, first reports by those getting them were mostly negative about their quality vs the tops made by TGF. Others since then seem to be more positive. Maybe some changes were made, I don't know. Maybe some were just more accepting. As for not buying into the theory of choosing a name to confuse owners with this site's store, I wonder if Mike Krehel bought into that theory when he was fighting to make them change their name when so many members were confused when buying their products thinking they were buying a product from this site's store. Most of the older members know, but the newer ones still have confusion, and/or just don't know any better.
And beachcat, my post didn't say they sell for $95, it said they sold for $95. Which has already been established was in fact accurate. Appearantly, I was wrong about Ed's mishap. My appologies for that, to both Ed, and the prowler store in question. Thanks to garysss for setting the record straight on that. BTW, has anyone else noticed that Prowl97 seems now to be robin (Rob)? I think Rob's email address is the same as Prowl97's was, and when first registered, I thought Rob showed to be in the same town, but has since changed to being in Canada.
If anyone wants to buy their products, far be it from me to prevent them from doing so. Especially when they are not available elsewhere. But they should be an informed buyer. I was just answering mslc10's question with more clarification than was previously provided. Hopefully, after all this discussion, he, and others, are more informed buyers.
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pretty sure prowl97's name is Bill.
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So explain the same email address.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by golfboy:
I agree with silvercat's statement. I think that there are more people with good experiences from the Prowler Store than bad. I am one of them. I've purchased several items from them and have yet to have a bad result from them. [B]Silvercat is happy with the hardtop that he bought from them and I am going to order one shortly. As to the allegation that the Prowler Store took their name to confuse Prowler owners from ordering things from the POA Prowler store, I don't buy into that theory.
If you check out the Prowler Store's website you will see that they also have A Camaro Store, Viper Store and a new Challenger Store. This tells me they have a lot of capital invested in these parts stores to produce parts for those who own performance or limited production cars like our Prowlers. We should be glad for any of our vendors that supply the parts we need or want, and this includes the Prowler Store. Now if you are not happy with the price, you don't have to buy the product. But it has to be recognized that the Prowler Store offers a lot more in the way of parts that any other vendor that I'm aware of. Personally, if they have what I want and I think it is worth the price, I will continue to buy from them. Just my two cents. Golfboy.

My post had nothing to do with products that they provide that are not available elsewhere. But since you brought up the hardtops they sell, first reports by those getting them were mostly negative about their quality vs the tops made by TGF. Others since then seem to be more positive. Maybe some changes were made, I don't know. Maybe some were just more accepting. As for not buying into the theory of choosing a name to confuse owners with this site's store, I wonder if Mike Krehel bought into that theory when he was fighting to make them change their name when so many members were confused when buying their products thinking they were buying a product from this site's store. Most of the older members know, but the newer ones still have confusion, and/or just don't know any better.
And beachcat, my post didn't say they sell for $95, it said they sold for $95. Which has already been established was in fact accurate. Appearantly, I was wrong about Ed's mishap. My appologies for that, to both Ed, and the prowler store in question. Thanks to garysss for setting the record straight on that. BTW, has anyone else noticed that Prowl97 seems now to be robin (Rob)? I think Rob's email address is the same as Prowl97's was, and when first registered, I thought Rob showed to be in the same town, but has since changed to being in Canada.
If anyone wants to buy their products, far be it from me to prevent them from doing so. Especially when they are not available elsewhere. But they should be an informed buyer. I was just answering mslc10's question with more clarification than was previously provided. Hopefully, after all this discussion, he, and others, are more informed buyers.[/B][/QUOTE]

My hardtop was made by a manufactrer in Michigan that even RPL has said is reputable and makes quality products. I paid 2900. for mine and have had both TGF and mine side by side. They're identical and no I'm not just more accepting. Alot of complaints? Would love to see them. The hardtop is of excellent quality and fit and finish beautiful. How can one talk about quality when they've never even seen the product? Many members have bought them an love them but are afraid to post because they don't want to get ripped. 2900. as opposed to 5000.-6000. thousand is quite a difference as well. As far as hardtops this is hands down a great buy for what you get. Are they pricey on many items? Most definitely but intelligent minds can make their own decision.

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Sorry, I haven't got a clue what you are talking about. I just know his name is Bill. I have spoken to him a fewe times.
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Looks like somebody ran over a piece of sheet metal duct work that fell off a truck? Not my taste, but thats just my opinion, which isn't worth much.

Didn't some member here have a problem with a refund or a exchange with the Prowler Store in Florida,,,an item that they bought on eBay.com? [a matter other than the deal with the hitch receiver purchase/return] Seems I recall a matter like that happening?

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Here you go, beachcat. Perhaps this will make what I am talking about more clear...
http://www.prowleronline.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/005641.html
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Originally posted by prowl97 06-27-2007 01:44 PM:
I have most all of the factory parts bumper to bumper new. www.prowler-parts.com or fly1956@comcast.net

and per his AV, From:Troy mi. USA Registered: May 2006
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E-Mail me @

fly1956@comcast.net

Or Call 248-952-1669

Located in Troy, MI

you can try here for parts they are on the web at
http://www.prowler-parts.com/

Rob


robin may well have registered with his location in Canada under his AV, as opposed to Troy Michigan, but states he is in Troy Michigan, as is Prowl97. Same website, same email address, same location... It should be pretty clear now.

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I've had 2 items that I returned to the Prowler Store. A banner and decals which I decided not to use. They took them back no questions asked and full refund. My hardtop had a slight scratch in lexan glass and they sent me new glass and rubber seal with no questions or run around. I had my chevy dealer install it and they refunded the labor for that. Only thing I had to do was to ship old glass back to them so they could get a credit. Maybe it's how one deals with people I don't know but they've been good w/me.
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oh Lord.

I think Robin just copied and pasted Bill's info into his post to be helpful and signed it Rob.

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oh Lord.

I think Robin just copied and pasted Bill's info into his post to be helpful and signed it Rob.


This is exactly what happened.

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Yea, that must be it. Could have inadvertantly copied and pasted someone elses info into their post to sell products they have for sale. Afterall, it happens all the time. It certainly doesn't mean they're the same person. I can see now how I would mistake them for the same person. I just hope you don't do the same thing and copy and paste my info inadvertantly into your ad to sell something you have for sale. People might confuse us for the same person. You certainly wouldn't want that to happen, would you?
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Idivey, I think you must be on the same pain killers as I am lol.

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