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phipplet From:Friendswood, Tx, USA |
posted 08-31-2023 12:56 PM
Hello Everyone! I just purchased one of my dream cars from HS. A Red 1999 Plymouth Prowler with 4k miles on it. I love the car. It drove great for two days! Here’s what’s going on. I sure hope someone out there can help. Okay, everytime I try to start the vehicle, the underhood #4 /15amp micro-fuse used for the Fuel Pump pops! I’ve tried replacing the underhood, R9 Fuel Pump Relay. The underhood R1 Automatic Shut Down (ASD) relay. I’ve unhooked the battery several times. I’m waiting on a jumper wire to jump an “always on” fuse to the Fuel Pump fuse to see if it starts running. ANy ideas would be great!! |
phipplet From:Friendswood, Tx, USA |
posted 08-31-2023 01:01 PM
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garysss POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Baltimore, MD, United States |
posted 08-31-2023 01:13 PM
Congrats and welcome to POA! Sorry to hear your having problems already. |
Dick Henry POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:South Padre Island, TX, USA |
posted 08-31-2023 01:22 PM
Yes I wanted to say welcome. We needed another Texas car. Sorry I can’t help on your problem but someone with more knowledge will post a possible solution shortly. Your at the right place. |
alrtg POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Westminster, MD, USA |
posted 08-31-2023 02:23 PM
quote: First off WELCOME to POA It is not my intention to sound negative right off the bat but... One of the downsides to purchasing a 24 year old vehicle with very low mileage on it is that there are bound to be issues that arise once it is put into service. Did you purchase this car from a Private seller or from a Dealer? If you purchased it from a Private seller, this may have been a "Known Issue" and they may not have been as forthright as one might expect. On the other hand if it was the Original Owner and they only drove the car a little when it was new, they may have been unaware of any issues. If you purchased it from a Dealer, did they offer any kind of Warranty on the car? Did you get any kind of maintenance or service history with the car? If the tires on the car are the original Goodyear EMT Runflat's, they probably need to be replaced due to age. Here in Maryland, 24 year old tires would NOT pass a legitimate State Inspection simply because of their age. Replacing the tires if they are original to the car will undoubtedly improve the ride. There is a chance that the fuel pump has gummed up fuel in it from years of inactivity. Once the issues you are having are resolved, you should be able to enjoy the car. Suggestions on what to do now that you have the car. Go through the fuel system, flush out any old gas that may be in the system. Flush the cooling system put new coolant in it. Consider replacing the Water Pump and drive belt along with the Serpentine and V Belts. Consider replacing the tires if they are the originals. Look at the center caps on the wheels, if they have broken clips...get them repaired using the modification by Dick L. here on POA. Spend a couple evenings looking through this site. Start on the Home page and go through each one of the sections, one by one beginning with The Prowler Story. Do not be afraid to ask questions, we are here to help. Learn how to use the Search feature, it will aid you in ways you likely can't yet comprehend. This message has been edited by alrtg on 08-31-2023 at 02:26 PM |
cdeluca99 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Patchogue, NY, USA |
posted 08-31-2023 02:41 PM
Call Tom Mills and get a fuel pump. It’s gotta be toast. My 99 did that intermittently, I did the same thing. Relay, fuses etc. buy the tool to pull the pump. It’ll seriously take 25 minutes tops to do. Tom’s pump is very affordable and it’ll be the last one you buy. Congratulations on your purchase and welcome to the club!!!! Only thing good about the situation is the car looks beautiful even if it needs a little love. This message has been edited by cdeluca99 on 08-31-2023 at 02:43 PM |
Tony Goertz POA Site Supporter Administrating Kat Personal ScrapBook From:Lucan, Ontario, Canada |
posted 08-31-2023 03:10 PM
Pull the fuel pump relay. Simple MOMEMTARILY jumper the relay output side... power to fuel pump. Pump should run... if you cant hear well enough... remove gas cap and have someone listen at the filler. If pump doesn't run... your jumper wire may get warn . key word.. MOMEMTARILY! |
phipplet From:Friendswood, Tx, USA |
posted 08-31-2023 03:16 PM
Thank you for the welcome! The original owner is a good guy. He listed all of the problems the vehicle had that he knew of. To include the vent selector on the climate control staying on defrost and will not move to other vent locations. The rear defroster button does not turn on. The driver’s side window has issues. The vehicle has been sitting in his garage for 20+ years. The tires are original and had flat spots when I first drove it. The fuse junction wire I’m waiting on will tell me immediately if the fuel pump is working or not. My suspicion is the fuel pump also. The vehicle hasn’t had any recalls or work done. It hasn’t even had it’s first oil change. Thanks again for the welcome and everyone’s help. I look forward to future meets and cruises! -phipplet This message has been edited by phipplet on 08-31-2023 at 03:24 PM |
alrtg POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Westminster, MD, USA |
posted 08-31-2023 03:48 PM
There is a good chance that since the car sat unused, even if the prior owner might have started it and maybe even moved it out of the garage and back in once in a while, sediment that may have settled in the tank did not get stirred up or create any known issues. Once the car was put back into service, the gasoline sloshing around in the tank may have loosened the sediment enough for it to get into the filter and or fuel pump. Removing the fuel pump inspecting and cleaning it might help some but be very aware of the plastic vacuum lines related to the emissions as they will likely be very brittle and if cracked or broken, could lead to other issues that would then need addressed. |
ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, Arizona, USA |
posted 08-31-2023 04:28 PM
Phipplet ,,, I hope you get your car's issues sorted out and everything working again to enjoy your car. I noticed the nice looking Falcon next to the Prowler... Better days are ahead....and welcome to the POA! |
phipplet From:Friendswood, Tx, USA |
posted 08-31-2023 04:40 PM
1963 1/2 Ford Falcon Sprint |
phipplet From:Friendswood, Tx, USA |
posted 08-31-2023 06:01 PM
quote: My bypass connector wire arrived today. Hooked it up. LED indicated the fuel pump was getting power. No sound from the fuel pump. It’s the pump! |
Dick Henry POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:South Padre Island, TX, USA |
posted 08-31-2023 06:22 PM
http://www.plymouthprowlerparts.com/ Go here for replacement fuel pump. |
phipplet From:Friendswood, Tx, USA |
posted 08-31-2023 06:39 PM
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garysss POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Baltimore, MD, United States |
posted 08-31-2023 07:23 PM
Your Falcon is Nice! |
ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 08-31-2023 07:25 PM
Welcome and I hope you get it figured our in short order. Plenty of knowledgeable folks here so you will get good info. Car looks great. |
Largent POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Denver, NC, United States |
posted 08-31-2023 07:55 PM
I also recommend Tom Mills and his fuel pump - and tool. Tom is as solid as a Prowler community supporter gets. While you're talking with him - buy his replacement window regulators - they'll last longer than any of us. I have Tom's fuel pump, window regulators and Wonder Bar on my car. And congratulations on the car purchase. Once you work out a couple small issues - you'll be all smiles for a lot of miles. |
phipplet From:Friendswood, Tx, USA |
posted 09-01-2023 11:20 AM
Okay, I looked at the fuel pump today, I guess the former owner forgot to mentioned it had been worked on. See the blue wire connections. The one that is loose just fell out when I touched it! Can someone please tell me which wires to use to try and start the motor. Thanks, |
phipplet From:Friendswood, Tx, USA |
posted 09-01-2023 11:51 AM
quote: Called again today and left another message. No response? Are they still in business? Anyone know them well enough to ask for me? |
WildCat POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Oldest kid in the neighborhood..... East side Indy, Indiana, USA |
posted 09-01-2023 11:55 AM
Don’t know why they cut it But I would take blue butt connector off, use shrink wrap & solder the wires and cover with shrink wrap Looks like a black wire with green stripe. Just connect back as it was & see if it will start ------------------ |
cdeluca99 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Patchogue, NY, USA |
posted 09-01-2023 11:57 AM
Dude, re-connect that wire and hit the key!!! That’s gotta be it. Perhaps the pump isn’t smoked!??? |
phipplet From:Friendswood, Tx, USA |
posted 09-01-2023 01:26 PM
quote: Well this is interesting! I reconnected the wire and the Prowler fired up! I stop and started it several times. After about ten minutes, the engine started to struggle and died. The fuel pump mini fuse had popped again? |
cdeluca99 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Patchogue, NY, USA |
posted 09-01-2023 03:21 PM
Something ain’t right with the wiring it sounds. The pump could be smoked and that’s a sign? Someone who has more experience should chime in. Is it the factory (correct size) fuse? Chase the wires as far back as you can and check em out. Maybe something is rubbing and shorting it out? I’m leary about the pump because mine was shot after driving a lower mileage car that was sitting as well on the 3rd or 4th ride. It has symptoms of a wire that’s shorting out someplace. |
phipplet From:Friendswood, Tx, USA |
posted 09-01-2023 03:29 PM
quote: Well, I soldered up the wires on the pump. Everything is working again. Starts right up. Runs great! I did notice when I twisted and pulled the white connector from the pump it was shorting out the fuel gauge. I would twist the wires and the fuel gauge would start working. As a temp fix I placed a zip tie around the wires and everything is working. I did order the new fuel pump from the recommended store. Kathy called me today! Keep your fingers crossed! This message has been edited by phipplet on 09-01-2023 at 03:30 PM |
cdeluca99 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Patchogue, NY, USA |
posted 09-01-2023 07:38 PM
I’m confident that once you have the new pump installed and you clean up the wiring you are going to have a blast. Did you check the front lower ball joints? That is not something that I would wait on. If the boots are ripped, change them. I’m happy you got her fired up!! Congratulations!! |
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