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wallygator310


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posted 04-29-2005 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wallygator310     send a private message to wallygator310   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by wallygator310
Took the Kat in for a replacement window regulator last week as mine bit the dust. Guess what?, they are on national back order again! I remember Jan B. (I think) saying a while ago that 300 more were made. So they went through 300 in just a couple of months?? Go figure. So, I'll be ...still waiting for mine. Anyone know of a dealership that may have one that my dealership can contact to get it?

Wally

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posted 04-29-2005 06:07 PM           send a private message to wallygator310   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by DUSTI
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posted 04-29-2005 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Krehel     send a private message to Mike Krehel   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Mike Krehel
Wally, which side do you need?

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Is there away for use to reinforce them so they don't break.
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posted 04-29-2005 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thedqman     send a private message to thedqman   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by thedqman
Lakeland Chrysler has a drivers side in STOCK.

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posted 04-29-2005 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Krehel     send a private message to Mike Krehel   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Mike Krehel
Wally I just checked and I have 2 new drivers side regulators PN 05003205AB. If it's the drivers side you need, let me know and we can work out a trade when yours comes in.
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I believe Jan B. last time said another 130 window regulators were being made, when there was a national backorder on them. I have seen five Prowler window regulators replace at ONE Dodge dealership here in the past four months,,,,,that is unacceptable. In another recent thread, I asked what are we going to do for them in five years?,,,,,ten years from now when no more will be made? I think I was told not to bitch about shortage of parts?

IF you are "out of warranty" and replacing either side window regulator,,,,please, PLEASE have the service department SAVE YOUR DEFECTIVE UNIT and give it BACK to you. IF you are having one replaced under warranty, tell the service writer and the parts department manager to save your's for 90 days, and when DC doesn't ask for it to be returned to them,,,,,that you would like it returned back to you. Jan B. keeps working on a way to rebuild these broken units and may come up with a fix to make them last much longer. Thanks for listening!

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Thanks Mike and Mike,
Yes it is the driver's side. I will talk with the dealership and see if they will install one I supply and then replace it with the one that is on backorder. I will also ask them to check with Lakeland Chrysler and see if they can trade off.

Thanks all,

Wally

This message has been edited by wallygator310 on 04-30-2005 at 08:58 PM

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Once again this site proves invaluable for Prowler owners.

Those that dump on this site.....wait until you need a hard-to-find part and POA is your last hope!!!

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I know why the regulators are failing....guys like Ed Monahan are driving around in their Prowlers in too cold of weather with THE WINDOWS UP so their hair doesn't get blown around. This cold condition causes premature damage! With the top down and the windows up, that cold Cincinnati air seeps into the regulator forming ice crystals. Because Ed knows so many folks in the area, he must raise and lower the windows an inordinate amount to converse with everyone and viola, a broken regulator.

PS Ed is stock piling them in his shed. In the future they will be $1000 on Ebay. lol

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posted 05-01-2005 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
Richard, you had to spill the beans, didn't you!!!!
Look at the post about raising the passenger seat and furnish the info instead of commenting on my coiffure. lol
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Way to go Richard!! Regardless of what Ed says about you,,,I'm enjoying your posts more every day Get in your shots wherever you can!!
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They don't break from using them too much. Mine have probably been used as much or more than anyone's and are still doing fine.
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quote:
Originally posted by St0rmBr1nger:
Is there away for use to reinforce them so they don't break.

Actually there is. I believe Jan mentioned this before. You can wrap your brand new or slightly used regulator in fiberglass tape. Do not wrap it at the point as to where it attaches to the electric drive motor. Don't forget to increase the tapes strength with a coat of epoxy. Be careful not to make it too rigid. It has to be able to flex a little in order for it to be re-installed.
A very good friend of mine and I installed a brand new one on my drivers side just last Summer. It can get pretty tricky at times.
Make sure once it is installed and the window glass is reattached to the regulator that the angle of the window glass is correct. It has to fit perfectly with the seal on your hard or soft top of your Prowler. Not only does the glass have to have the correct angle from side to side but also the correct distance from front to back. This can be adjusted where it attaches to your regulator.

Why do they break...simple...a pi$$ poor design. A worm gear that is encased in a nylon sleeve. Once this nylon sleeve cracks, the regulator starts to make an unusual noise as the worm gear attempts to pass through it. If the nylon sleeve continues to crack there will be a point in time where the regulator will just fail altogether. If your regulator is starting to moan and groan you can delay its death by carefully gripping the top section of the window glass with one hand while pulsing the electric drive motor with your other hand. This is of course if the window gets stuck in the down position like mine used to.

I sincerely wish they would improve upon the design of the cats regulator. I guess we'll have to put these regulators on the same list as the flaking rims.
Good Luck!

Brian

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tohipcat has it right.a couple of other things. to reinforce it,before applying epoxy,make sure you clean it good and also sand area w/80 grit paper clean again.it usually breaks at each end,where it attaches to the vertical track,and also at the center where the motor attaches,4 areas,i would reinforce all 4 areas.the regulator when new is actually shaped w/center where motor attaches straight across,w/rt.track going straight down and left track going straight up.when installed in door,the shape has to change to an angle,where the center section actually changes to an angle,this angle puts tension on each end where it meets the track lt.and rt.,causing it to eventually fail and crack.they are repairable.if youre replacing it.get the old one and keep it.the dealer if youre paying for it must give it to you.if i was installing a new one,i would leave it in for about a month,till it retains its new shape,then remove and reinforce it.

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This message has been edited by jan bruggeman on 05-01-2005 at 08:37 PM

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posted 05-02-2005 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TooHipCat     send a private message to TooHipCat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by TooHipCat
Jan brought up a lot of good points that either I didn't know or forgot to include on my original reply.

Good idea on keeping your old one for repairs. I will have to go to work on my old one in the event the new one on the drivers side takes a dive again.

Have a good day everyone!

Brian

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