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George Johnson            POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Katy, TX USA |
posted 05-07-2009 05:12 PM
    
I am changing out my rear shocks from Dynamics to Konis and noticed their are two stabilizer bars on each wheel and the bushings are rotting. Has anyone replaced the bushings with an AM polyurethane bushing? There is a total of eight (8) bushings for both sides. Thanks! |
catfish       POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:scottsdale,az,usa |
posted 05-07-2009 06:12 PM
george,they are lateral links,not stablilizer links.,sent you a pm. ------------------ |
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George Johnson POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Katy, TX USA |
posted 05-08-2009 08:14 AM
quote: CATFISH is correct. Mopar Center said the book calls them Lateral Links (2) on each wheel, and they do not sell the bushings separate. Each link is $493.90 with discount plus you have to re-align the rear after installing. I need to know if there is someone who could make an AM polyurethane bushing. Thanks! |
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catfish POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:scottsdale,az,usa |
posted 05-08-2009 12:24 PM
does anybody know the difference between the 99 rr susp.lateral link,and the 00 to 02 link.the 00/02 has a different part# and is 400.00 more. ------------------ |
Larry Lord Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Colton, CA |
posted 05-08-2009 12:46 PM
Just a bit of info from past experience that may or may not help. Just because the outer edge of a bushing is cracked, dry and brittle, it doesn't always indicate a worn out bushing. The best way to check your bushings is to load them fore and aft, up and down with a pry bar to see if they are indeed worn or if they just look bad at the exposed edges. Any qualified shop can check these but a dishonest shop will always tell you that you need new ones and will show you the outer edge as proof. ------------------ |
JOYRIDE   POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Moncton N.B. Canada |
posted 05-08-2009 05:34 PM
Thanks Larry  |
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catfish POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:scottsdale,az,usa |
posted 05-08-2009 06:52 PM
in many cases as larry states the bushings will be cracked on the ends making them look like they need replacing,but they dont.in georges case they are cracked all the way thru and self destructing,where pieces are falling out of the link.hes looking into urethane replacements,instead of rubber,since you cannot but the factory bushings seperatly.you must buy the complete link.98.00 for a 97 to 99 and almost 500.00 each for a 00 to 02.chrysler strikes again.thats one of the reasons i recommend wurth rubbercare,to help preserve the rubber seals and bushings on cats and other cars. ------------------ This message has been edited by catfish on 05-08-2009 at 06:53 PM |
phil2237 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:PLACENTIA CALIFORNIA |
posted 05-08-2009 10:16 PM
Look thru the rear rim, You will see the knuckles with the bolt thru them, If BOTH knuckles are not parallel to each other, The bushing is GOING BAD. If you see one aimed slightly downward , It's going bad . Those Small bushings (8 ) take ALL the torque that goes to the rear wheels. Just went thru the replacement of these at 14,000 miles This message has been edited by phil2237 on 05-08-2009 at 10:18 PM |
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catfish POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:scottsdale,az,usa |
posted 05-09-2009 12:07 AM
phil,did you replace the links or bushings,and if you replaced bushings,what did you use as a replacement,since n/a thru mopar. ------------------ |
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Larry Lord Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Colton, CA |
posted 05-09-2009 01:24 AM
Here is some info on the rear suspension lateral links from a reliable source: "The Prowler rear lateral links are modified length JA(1995-2000 Stratus/Cirrus) rear links. 1997-1999 Same ends as JA
Also the frame mounting brackets for the links were widened slightly to accommodate the larger link ends. Thanks big guy! ------------------ This message has been edited by Larry Lord on 05-09-2009 at 01:30 AM |
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catfish POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:scottsdale,az,usa |
posted 05-09-2009 10:46 AM
thanks larry,now i know why diff.part #s.doesnt sound like interchangeable.the change is also why the hugh price diff. ------------------ |
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phil2237 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:PLACENTIA CALIFORNIA |
posted 05-09-2009 11:08 AM
Jan, The 4 Top arms were replaced as well as the lower arms, as the bushings were not available seperatly. This was all covered under my extended warrenty with a $ 200.00 deductable. They also replaced the rear shocks, hood support shocks and a new alternator. If anyone wants to tackle making these, I was told by Chrysler that they need to be the EXACT size as the original in length, this is what aligns the rear wheels. I would try to copy a NEW bushing , as an old one would not give you the exact measurement. This message has been edited by phil2237 on 05-09-2009 at 11:23 AM |
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Larry Lord Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Colton, CA |
posted 05-09-2009 02:40 PM
More info for those interested in upgrading to the later style lateral links:
The picture above illustrates what it takes to update to the newer lateral links on an old (97-99) frame. The picture shows where to grind/cut relief for the larger diameter link ends. On the later frames, the link mounting brackets are machined on both sides and were adjusted to cut closer to the frame to allow for the larger diameter link end. ------------------ This message has been edited by Larry Lord on 05-09-2009 at 02:42 PM |
dskatt POA Site SupporterProwler Junkie From:Denham Springs, Louisiana , USA |
posted 06-21-2009 10:52 AM
I just checked my bushings and it's bad news. I have a 2001 so I guess I'm looking at $2000 for parts alone. Is there any AM possibility's on the horizon? |
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catfish POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:scottsdale,az,usa |
posted 06-21-2009 02:40 PM
larry,do you have any idea what urethane bushing will work,fit the 99s.the 2000 and up ,if i understand correctly,the 2000 and up have a bearing.how important is it on the 2000 and up to use a bearing vs.bushing.of doesnt it matter. ------------------ |
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phil2237 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:PLACENTIA CALIFORNIA |
posted 06-21-2009 03:09 PM
We are taking an arm off this week from ( O C Prowlers ) car, We have been working on a solution for the past several weeks now, I will keep everyone posted on the outcome. Hopefully we will be able to replace just the bushing without the arm replacement. |
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dskattPOA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Denham Springs, Louisiana , USA |
posted 06-22-2009 04:24 PM
Good luck |
MDProwler POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Fallston,MD USA |
posted 06-22-2009 07:43 PM
quote: I just checked and do not see anything that looks like a ball joint on my 01. Just the typical bushings.  |
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George Johnson POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Katy, TX USA |
posted 06-23-2009 07:41 AM
[/B][/QUOTE] I just checked and do not see anything that looks like a ball joint on my 01. Just the typical bushings. [/B][/QUOTE]I have a 2001 (8k miles), and I am in the process of changing out the rear shocks to Konis, while I had the wheels off I inspected the lateral links. You have two on each side right above the wheel hub. The links are a ball joint so they can move freely up & down with the wheel. The housing on each side of the ball joint has a rubber boot to keep the dust and dirt out. Mine had completed rotted out, so I cleaned the old rubber out and greased the ball joint then replaced the rubber boot. I think mine rotted out because the Dynamic shocks were leaking fluid on them. This message has been edited by George Johnson on 06-23-2009 at 07:46 AM |
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George Johnson POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Katy, TX USA |
posted 06-23-2009 07:52 AM
NO. 4 and 5 - Lateral Links
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MDProwler POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Fallston,MD USA |
posted 06-23-2009 08:04 AM
quote: I just checked and do not see anything that looks like a ball joint on my 01. Just the typical bushings. [/QUOTE]I have a 2001 (8k miles), and I am in the process of changing out the rear shocks to Konis, while I had the wheels off I inspected the lateral links. You have two on each side right above the wheel hub. The links are a ball joint so they can move freely up & down with the wheel. The housing on each side of the ball joint has a rubber boot to keep the dust and dirt out. Mine had completed rotted out, so I cleaned the old rubber out and greased the ball joint then replaced the rubber boot. I think mine rotted out because the Dynamic shocks were leaking fluid on them. [/B][/QUOTE] Ok I see what you mean. They are the same as the front sway bar connecting rod bushings. I was thinking more along the lines of a tie rod end. |
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dskattPOA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Denham Springs, Louisiana , USA |
posted 06-25-2009 05:34 PM
I know they are part of the suspension, but just what is there function? |
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George Johnson POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Katy, TX USA |
posted 06-25-2009 05:52 PM
quote: That is how you adjust the alignment of the rear wheels, and supports the stress of turning. |
PROWLAW Prowler Enthusiast From:Miami Beach, FL, USA |
posted 07-13-2009 05:44 PM
After reading this thread I took at look at the front sway bars and rear lateral links on my '02 (almost 16k miles). All the rubber boots are destroyed/missing...although some still have quite a bit of grease on them. Is there any way to tell for certain with a mere visual inspection if they need to be replaced? Phil mentioned that if the links don't look parallel they are no good. Does anyone else have an opinion on this? Also, if they do need to be replaced, what can happen if they aren't? |
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Larry Lord Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Colton, CA |
posted 07-13-2009 07:29 PM
Regarding your front stabilizer links, just remove the boots and don't worry about them. There is very little movement in the heim portion of the link. Just a drop or two of oil or grease now and then and they should work just fine for many more years. The rears are a completely different matter. |
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