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frozen prowler Prowler Enthusiast From:Minneapolis, MN, USA |
posted 07-02-2003 10:44 PM
The Silver Kat I purchased 5 weeks ago is getting ready for her first oil change (first that I am gonna do, it has been done by the dealer) and I was just wondering if anyone has any tips. Should I take it to my regular Jiffy Lube guy, should I get some ramps and make sure it doesn't get scratched by doing it myself? Anyone have any opinions on synthetic vs. regular? Any special tips or hints? All you input would be greatly appreciated Thanks |
GRROWL POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Herndon, VA |
posted 07-02-2003 11:37 PM
frozen, Oil change is very easy, suggest Mobil-1 5W30. 12,000 pound capacity plastic ramps are popular, available at WalMart, etc., for roughly $25.00. Also use a grease gun - front upper balljoints, rear lower balljoints. Pop the plastic caps and lube GENTLY (I wouldn't trust a lube shop using air power). -GRROWL P.S. - You might also want to consider a small floor jack (Sears has a 2-1/4 ton one for $29.99 with jackstands) - lift pads are along the side rail, use a 2x4 on the jack to clear the body. This would be useful to help put on ceramic brake pads (and front mud flaps if you don't already have them) which seem to be the first two recommended mods. Good luck, and have fun. The standard maintenance stuff on the prowler is really very straight forward. This message has been edited by GRROWL on 07-02-2003 at 11:38 PM |
ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 07-03-2003 01:40 AM
I do it myself and get the Mobil 1 at Wal-Mart for $ 19 for 5 qt jugs. (You gotta love the big jugs.) You know it is done correctly when you do it yourself. |
GenoTex POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Oakfield, WI, USA |
posted 07-03-2003 09:15 AM
especially those big jugs of boones farm! |
dbudner Prowler Junkie From:Dallas, Ga. USA |
posted 07-03-2003 10:11 AM
Definately go with synthetic. As far as who does it, I let the quicky guys do my other cars, but I had the dealer do the prowler. Since I have a while on the warranty I figured there would be less of a chance of getting hosed if the dealer had the records. |
BeWare POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Acworth , Georgia , USA |
posted 07-03-2003 12:10 PM
Brad, I am sorry to disagree but I would not put synthetic in on the first oil change. I know others will disagree but a mechanic told me I should have 5000 miles before switching to Synthetic. He could have sold me an more expensive oil change at the time so I had no reason to doubt him. |
idive POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Texas USA |
posted 07-03-2003 12:31 PM
BeWare - reasoning behind the 5000 miles rule??? ------------------ |
GRROWL POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Herndon, VA |
posted 07-03-2003 12:35 PM
fp, It sounds like this will be the third oil in the kat since you said the dealer already changed it once. Regardless, here's some food for thought from the Mobil-1 web site: =========================================== Don't Just Take Our Word For It: Mobil 1® comes as standard equipment in some of the finest production vehicles you can buy. It's "factory fill" in Chevrolet Corvette, all Porsches, Mercedes-Benz AMG models, Dodge Viper, Ford Mustang Cobra R and all Aston Martin cars. Here are some remarks from some of the top engineers and executives at these renowned manufacturers. "Every car produced in the factory in Stuttgart gets its first oil from Mobil 1. And that means that all our cars and engines are developed with that product." "Mobil 1 is the only oil we use for our engines as the first filling. And then we put the sticker in the engine compartment just to make sure that people know what's in their engines." "Based upon the results we saw several years ago in endurance racing with Team Shelby, we felt Mobil 1 could do the job in the Viper, Dodge's highest-performance sports car." ==================================================== If it's good enough for the Viper as original fill, it should be good enough for the prowler from day one. In fact, does anyone know the prowler factory fill? It seems quite possible that CAAP only used only Mobil 1 in both the Vipers AND Prowlers. -GRROWL |
BeWare POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Acworth , Georgia , USA |
posted 07-03-2003 12:59 PM
I was told because the engine is not broken in until 5000 miles. I am not an expert but when someone in the business tells me especially when they lose a higher dollar sale I did as suggested. And I said others would disagree. I must be physic This message has been edited by BeWare on 07-03-2003 at 01:02 PM |
GRROWL POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Herndon, VA |
posted 07-03-2003 01:04 PM
quote: The "factory breakin oil" is a relic of the past. It's not true now; it wasn't true 10 years ago. 30 years ago, maybe. The "factory breakin oil" was, in ancient times, a non-detergent oil that allowed the rings to lap to the cylinders. Modern engines have much closer tolerances, don't need breakin oil, don't come from the factory with it. In fact, I'm still interested if anyone knows whether the Prowler came with Mobil-1, which would be the same as they put in the Vipers on the next line in the same plant. -GRROWL |
catfish POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:scottsdale,az,usa |
posted 07-03-2003 04:31 PM
prowler did not come w/mobil 1.if it did you wouldnt have to change to it.comes w reg oil.go at least 5000 before changing to mobil 1.i would use only a mopar filter.no frams frams valve doesnt work very well at holding oil pressue in engine after shutting off.i tried once ,and at start up engine rattled like crazy.changed back to mopar.no problems. also i go 6000 on a change.i change my filter at time of change and then 3000 after that.semms to keep it cleaner.saw a old,25ry.or more mobil one mag. add,and it said back then you could go 25.000 before another change. ------------------ This message has been edited by jan bruggeman on 07-03-2003 at 04:38 PM |
GRROWL POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Herndon, VA |
posted 07-03-2003 05:27 PM
quote: JB, It sounds like you're responding to me, but I don't understand the first line above. Second, I agree with you that Fram is generally considered to be the worst filter on the market. However, do you realize that, HORROR OF HORRORS, that Mopar filter in your car MAY BE A FRAM??? See: -GRROWL |
catfish POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:scottsdale,az,usa |
posted 07-03-2003 05:45 PM
if mopar filter may be a fram,why does it hold pressue when the fram wont.as a matter of fact,i used probably 3 frams,and went back to mopar. ------------------ |
Bob Goetz POA Site Supporter Mr. Real Rod From:Belle Plaine MN USA |
posted 07-03-2003 06:45 PM
I use Red Line 5-30 Synthetic I dump it every 5000 to 6000 miles and it looks like when I put it in, ( use the drain oil in the chain saw for the bar oiler chains never lasted so long, takes alot of wood to stay warm up here YA KNOW). I use the mopar filter. Also I put the Red Line in at 2000 miles now have 21000 and no problum. Also I have the dealer do the change and grease. ------------------ |
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