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Gort
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A friend called me from Texas and said he had a chance to buy a totaled(rear end crash) SRT Crossfire . He says it will bolt up to the prowler drive line without doing anything. 330 hp supercharger..stock V6.

Question..is this true? If so what about the computer problems. This car is rare.

Is the engine worth $4k? (complete)

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You said it was a 'friend'....

Buy it and find out

Report back after the in$tall....

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Originally posted by ALLEY CAT:
You said it was a 'friend'....

Buy it and find out

Report back after the in$tall....


A friend maybe not a expert. I'm wondering why this hasn't ever been mentioned before.

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Originally posted by Gort:
A friend called me from Texas and said he had a chance to buy a totaled(rear end crash) SRT Crossfire . He says it will bolt up to the prowler drive line without doing anything. 330 hp supercharger..stock V6.

Question..is this true? If so what about the computer problems. This car is rare.

Is the engine worth $4k? (complete)


My mechanic told me a while back, this is the power plant he wish the Prowler came with.

Easy to swap out components? I'd have to give him a call.

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I don't see why it would bolt up without doing anything. The crossfire engine and transmission are all mercedes.
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The crossfire engine and transmission are all mercedes.

I think that's why my mechanic likes it so much!

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I really like the crossfire. I don't know why it wasn't that successful.

I place it in the Viper, Prowler, PT Cruiser, Crossfire group family of radical cars by Chrysler.

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From what I understand, the computers used for the Crossfire communicate in German so a typical scanner at Chrysler won't work. I have been told that when diagnostics are needed, the car goes to a Mercedes shop.

How accurate is this, I don't know as for me it is all hearsay.

If the components would simply bolt up and use the OE computers then it might be worth a try.

My suggestion would be to research compatibility prior to any purchase.

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Originally posted by beachcat:
I don't see why it would bolt up without doing anything. The crossfire engine and transmission are all mercedes.

It seems after all these years,someone would have been curious about the exchange.A 330hp chrysler engine would be nice to have instead of a 253hp engine and it's got a supercharger on it from the factory. I wouldn't be up for throwing $4k plus shipping on a chance it "might" bolt up.

From your previous posts and photos you seem to be very familiar with the engine and workings of the driveline. A few measurements or a quick glance of a photo could tell if it would be possible. Maybe the supercharger might not work as far as a fit under the hood. It seems that a 330hp blown Chrysler engine would be a huge selling factor. Putting a V8 LS chevy or 392 Chrysler would mean many custom one of a kind parts. If I could get a photo of the rear of the engine could you tell if it looks close or impossible...right?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMG-SUP ERCHARGED-V6-only-5k-VERIFIABLE-MILES-C32-SLK32-CROSSFIRE-ENGINE-motor-/171659102016?hash=item27f7ae0740&vxp=mtr


This is not the engine but what it looks like..I think.

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Originally posted by TooHipCat:
My mechanic told me a while back, this is the power plant he wish the Prowler came with.

Easy to swap out components? I'd have to give him a call.


That would be super. please do. I can hardly believe it would fit but would be willing to put a "supercharged" emblem on the prowler if it really was for $5-6k .

If it will work ,I see several of these engines for sale on Ebay.That alone makes me think it won't work.

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I would like to see a picture of the engine. It would have to bolt up to the prowler bell housing to be plug and play. If it would bolt up to a 42LE Transaxle, then it might work. i'm not a mechanic so maybe TooHip's mechanic would be a better person to comment.

BTW a supercharger is not a blower. They perform similar things but in a different way and style. JMO

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I would like to see a picture of the engine. It would have to bolt up to the prowler bell housing to be plug and play. If it would bolt up to a 42LE Transaxle, then it might work. i'm not a mechanic so maybe TooHip's mechanic would be a better person to comment.

BTW a supercharger is not a blower. They perform similar things but in a different way and style. JMO


A supercharger is not a blower? What does that mean? A supercharger is a blower. A 671 supercharger on drag engines is in a blown class. A supercharger is direct drive a turbo runs off exhaust gases. Are you thinking about turbos? The engine I'm talking about is supercharged.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/454-BBC -Chevy-Blown-572-Street-Turn-Key-Crate-Engine-1000HP-850TQ-On-Pump-Gas-/121087482531?hash=item1c31605aa3&vxp=mtr

This is a blown chevy engine with a GM 871 blower (supercharger) that was orginally meant for a huge GM truck engine.

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Looks like the Crossfire's haven't held their value like the Prowler.

http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-Chrysler-Crossfire-SRT-6-d171#listing=114801090


It would be a lot of pain for so little gain in my book.


Looks like the Crossfire people have the old Prowler idenity problem, you guessed it should of had a V-8. lol
http://mbworld.org/forums/performance-upgrades-tuning/321852-v8-r170-crossfire-conversion-almost-done.html

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Looks like the Crossfire's haven't held their value like the Prowler.

http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-Chrysler-Crossfire-SRT-6-d171#listing=114801090

The MB engine has really great reviews. I think the crossfire was not to popular. 77 more realiable hp would be nice. More like V8 hp ratings. 330hp with a supercharger should run much better.

It would be a lot of pain for so little gain in my book.


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I am no expert but the Crossfire has a conventional drive train and the Prowlrer does not. Crossfire engine bolted to transmission to drive shaft to rear axle. Prowler engine, propeller shaft to transaxle. How could it ossibly be a direct bolt in?
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I am no expert but the Crossfire has a conventional drive train and the Prowlrer does not. Crossfire engine bolted to transmission to drive shaft to rear axle. Prowler engine, propeller shaft to transaxle. How could it ossibly be a direct bolt in?

Good point Rich. The Crossfire in the 2008 supercharged variety only came with an automatic.

All the physical fit problems are one thing but to get all the electronics to talk to one another is where the real work is. JMO

How about it Trey if you are out there and Rick who just went through it with his new conversion.

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I have a 2005 Crossfire not the SRT but a fun car and Fast the problem is that most every thing is German/Mercedes and Chrysler Most shops around here have a problem with PC read outs because they need to be able to read the Mercedes and the Chrysler if there is a problem and the dealers don't have all of the proper stuff to fix any thing on them here .My problem is some times it will not start No one knows what to do then next time it starts and runs fine ? 26000 miles I think I need to trim the Herd ..
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From what I understand, the computers used for the Crossfire communicate in German so a typical scanner at Chrysler won't work. I have been told that when diagnostics are needed, the car goes to a Mercedes shop.

How accurate is this, I don't know as for me it is all hearsay.

If the components would simply bolt up and use the OE computers then it might be worth a try.


That is a fact,,,,,Crossfire OBII computers talk in German,,, Dodge/Chrysler dealers w/o the right equipment are of no help in diagnostic work.

The Crossfire was just priced too high to capture the sales needed to keep it going.....plus, they had their share of problems like many Mercedes-Benz vehicles do. On the base V6 engine,,,the computer allowed speeds to 155 mph before limiting. Possibly the SRT6 model had more speed to be attained?

The used car market on them is very weak.....

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Good point Rich. The Crossfire in the 2008 supercharged variety only came with an automatic.

All the physical fit problems are one thing but to get all the electronics to talk to one another is where the real work is. JMO

How about it Trey if you are out there and Rick who just went through it with his new conversion.


Exactly. This may be a case of wasted time and money. I sure would not rewire the car to get 77 hp.

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Oh well, it was still worth talking about.
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Almost bought a 2005 for 11k about 4 yrs ago..bad thing about them is they smell, they have that vw import smell to them. It was Kewl but doesn't get the looks of a prowler. It was a fast solid little car tho!
Don't think the german engine will bolt up. And the color options were crappy too!!

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The Crossfire had it's problems also, check out the picture of the base model and the SRT version for a good laugh. I don't think anyone has ever gone this low on a Prowler. lol

http://jalopnik.com/you-forgot-all-about-the-chrysler-crossfire-didnt-you-511171936

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It sure would look good under a prowler hood



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Don't do it. Anyone can out an engine into the car getting it to work and talk will be your problem. I'm pretty sure crossfire engine has bolt on Trans prowler in rear. Will need custom bellhousing lots of computer / wiring programming etc. not worth it
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Don't do it. Anyone can out an engine into the car getting it to work and talk will be your problem. I'm pretty sure crossfire engine has bolt on Trans prowler in rear. Will need custom bellhousing lots of computer / wiring programming etc. not worth it

I value your opinion and it didn't surprise me.


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