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I would like to start a poll of sorts.

Should the Prowler have had a V8?

1. Yes

2. No

3. Should have been an option

Please participate by picking a number and comment if you wish. Thanks.

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Yes, mine will someday!
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quote:
Originally posted by beachcat:
I would like to start a poll of sorts.

Should the Prowler have had a V8?

1. Yes

2. No

3. Should have been an option

Please participate by picking a number and comment if you wish. Thanks.


1. In 1997 yes, now 2. A V-6 will produce 321hp w/o boost.

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Three

The V-8 availability stunk back when the Prowler was being built. They also did it on a budget so a high output V-8
wasn't in the cards. The V-8 only wins because of displacement anyway.

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I liked the V6 then and I still like it today. Gas mileage is good too. Some people can never be happy with anything....
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The 6 is fine, smooth, at hand,clean fit,plus,it was the only way we were going to get the car,The Prowler was the sister of the Viper and all ways will be.The Prowler still runs with the 1970 Challenger 6pak.Can't build a hot rod and get the looks of the Prowler!!I liked my Viper but love the Prowler and still do.
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The 6 cyl. is approprieate for the weight and size.
But if anyone has the need for speed, there are mods available.
I once owned a Prowler with Nitrous and supercharger. It would jump off the line and hold it's own with vipers and vettes. Wouldn't win, but jaws would drop.
IMHO, if the Prowler had been offered with a V8, there would be a whole lot less of them now, because of wrecks. Another breed of people would have purchased them. Like vette and viper wannabes. Viper owners are crazy. - LOL
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DITTO,,,,to what Mr.Ed said above >
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HP to weight ratio has to be considered. Also the weight distribution throughout the car. I think the engineers did what they are good at and came up with the perfect build specs for the Prowler. A true Prowler has a 3.5 V6. Anything else is a modified Prowler.

So I pick #2

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A definite YES!

Only a Prowler owner would say it should have a V6.
I know this is a barbaric comment, but Testosterone demands a V8!

Had a V8 been an option for the Prowler, what percent of the Prowlers would have been V6? (surely the poll assumes the transmission would have been sufficient for V8 power)

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I met a fella at the Marshal Mi. Car show who worked on the design of the prowler engine , he said they were seriously considering putting an 8 in the Prowler . But Chrysler was just going through partnering with Mercedes and they wouldn't,t allow an 8.
I like my 6 good enough for me.
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I personally think the V-6 is sufficient for the weight of the car.The car sure has great performance and sounds good as it is.I think if Chrysler put a V-8 in the Prowler,there would be more issues and problems such as breaking the welds loose on the frame......I guess a V-8 would be okay on a race track.
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I like my Prowler like it is, I have no problem with the V6, but if it had come with the option of a V8. I most likely would have picked the V8. The Challenger comes in V6, but I have a V8. Camaro comes in V6, but I have a V8. I also think I might not own one though if it had a V8, because I think it would have been even more popular and price and limited numbers would have kept them out of my price range.
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But they put a V8 in the Howler.
What's the spec on Howler?

Would love the V8 in it, too many people trying to race me

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Choices....V6 = Prowler, V8 = keep dreaming. Remember one thing, the choice was made in the early '90's.

With today's technology you can have a coupe or four door sedan with 707HP, a Viper with 640HP, a Mustang with 650HP+, a Camaro with almost 650HP or a ZO6 Corvette with ZO7 option that will pull 1.18G's and deliver roughly 650HP any of which can be had for less than $100K. Different times. Different choices.

How did the old commercial go...."I could have had a V8"

If you want a V8 in your Prowler you can have it done. There are a number of successful conversions. Isn't that what hot rodding is all about? I have one friend that would be happy to build you a killer V6 stroker and another that successfully did a 6.1 V8 conversion. All it takes is time and money.

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#2 '99 Prowler is 253 hp---------'99 Mustang GT is 260 hp. Andy
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Originally posted by 1of1576:
#2 '99 Prowler is 253 hp---------'99 Mustang GT is 260 hp. Andy

99 Mustang Curb weight 3,273 lbs.

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I vote number 2 but not because of "Size" or Displacement.

As built, the Prowler had an almost perfect 50/50 front to rear weight distribution which works well to balance the car.

Had it been built with one of the V8's of the period, the front would have been much heavier. The added torque would have likely dictated a different transmission choice.

Here is a thought....Ask anyone that has converted their Prowler from a V6 to a V8 about how the conversion changed the driveability of their car.

I imagine in a straight line it would be acceptable but also expect that the handling would have suffered greatly even with an improved suspension and upgraded brakes.

If you look at mid to late '70's V8's, you will likely find that many of them had comparable horsepower ratings to the Prowler's V6. In my opinion this argument has nothing to do with horsepower at all, but simply EGO.

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I vote #2. The V-6 is just fine in a Prowler with it's light weight. It was meant to be a cruiser, not a racer.
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I constantly go back and forth on the issue... When I'm dreaming I dream of an 8 cylinder..... When I drive it, I wonder why I need more... If money was no object I would go with the v10 but there I go, dreaming again... I drive mine a lot so in the end I may just rebuild or replace the stock engine, Don't want to burn off tires and don't want to blow up the transmission just to say I got 2 ( or 4) more cylinders and a few more HP
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I had the Paxton supercharger installed and it gives the V-6 all the power that I want. I would have loved to have seen it as a factory supercharged V-6 or Twin Turbo.
V-6!
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Just me whining.

The OP asked, "should" the Prowler have had a V8, not would you replace your V6 with a V8.

Had it been designed for a V8 it still could have had good weight distribution.

I know that, the Prowler as is, is better suited for a light weight motor. And at the time it was designed, their optimal, minimal expense motor was the 3.5L motor. I too can apologize the V6 in a Prowler.

But, for a retro hot rod, a V8 would have been the optimal choice.

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I like the Prowler as it is, but you can't beat the sound of a V8. I think most of the Prowler owners who change the exhaust system on their cars are trying to find that sound of a V8. It's just not going to happen. JMO
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I agree "Padroo", and I weighed in at 2,800 lbs on the scale. Andy
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Until this past year when he moved, a neighbor of mine worked at Chrysler when he was in his late twenties and was actually part of a Prowler assembly team. As you'd expect, he had a lot of in depth knowledge about the Prowler production, testing, assembly (of course), the personnel involvrd at many levels, as well as various problems that were encountered and the fixes that were done or attempted. He had a lot of interesting stories about the development and production of the Prowler. One time I asked him about the engine. Apparently, Chrysler had considered a V8 and even the V10 at the time but after road tests found that the Prowler was too light and too easily became uncontrollable with the V8 or V10. Chrysler decided against it because the Prowler was not a stable platform with the V8 or V10 configuration and Chrysler did not want to invest the engineering money to stabilize the platform with that type of power. There may have been other reasons as well but, as Eric put it, the car had a tendency to have squirrelly performance with the hotter engines.

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