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RPL




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posted 11-04-2011 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RPL     send a private message to RPL   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by RPL
Looks like the majority rules. The majority of the posts for an extended period of time have to do with our dysfunctional government and the state of the economy.

I must have been confused. I actually thought that this was a car site/club. This site is as divided as our country. I just don't have the energy anymore to sort through this on a daily basis and the next year will be unbearable.

I wish you all well and personally thank each and everyone that participated in the various group purchases. Without you it wouldn't have been possible.

Can't say if I'll return, but I need a big break. If someone needs assistance with their car, please feel free to email me at boblongstreth@comcast.com or give me a call at 248-425-7920. I'll do my best to help. I don't plan to pickup private messages so use this contact information.

Best of luck to all.

nitrosteve


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posted 11-04-2011 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nitrosteve     send a private message to nitrosteve   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by nitrosteve
No, Bob please don't do this. The site will not be the same without you and your help. Your advise and knowledge of the Kats is something none of us want to do without. I sold both my Kats but am in the process of buying another as I write this. Should be done by Saturday, I really miss them. People like you are the reason this site is so great. Please reconsider and ignore all the political stuff and focus on the car stuff and stay with us.
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posted 11-04-2011 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for beachcat     send a private message to beachcat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by beachcat
I don't get it. Can't you just stay away from the political and off topic forums? The general discussion, technical, classified, performance/appearance and repro parts forums rarely have political or state of the economy posts.
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posted 11-04-2011 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for George Johnson     send a private message to George Johnson   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by George Johnson
Bob, we will certainly miss you and your knowledge of the Prowler. Thank you for all your hard work and effort in the quality products you have provided me and the other owners...
Simonsez





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posted 11-04-2011 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Simonsez     send a private message to Simonsez   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Simonsez
I certainly understand your frustration as I have similar feelings. Because of repercussions by a few on this site I have thought twice about even posting on this or any subject. A few bad apples can ruin a good bushel (the POA is a fine example). Some choose to comment regularly but contribute very little when it comes to the Prowler. The personal bashing of fellow members must cease. The monitoring of this site does not exist...at least not as it once was. Very frustrating as I once loved this site.

This message has been edited by Simonsez on 11-04-2011 at 12:22 PM

bjprowler


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posted 11-04-2011 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bjprowler     send a private message to bjprowler   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by bjprowler
I know just how you feel, Bob....There's a restaurant (it specializes in great hamburgers and fries) that has been my favorite for years and years..... I go there often because of their great burgers.

I just found out that they also have liver and onions on their menu...And it turns out that a bunch of their customers actually like liver and onions..... But I don't.....So I've decided to never go back there for burgers and fries again.....

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posted 11-04-2011 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JeraneW     send a private message to JeraneW   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by JeraneW
Bob: I know where you are coming from. I hope you stay on as I know you have a wealth of information on Prowlers and the integrity that goes with it. You will be greatly missed if you follow through on this decision.
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posted 11-04-2011 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeWare     send a private message to BeWare   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by BeWare
Like so many others I am sorry to hear you are no longer going to be posting. I think the political off topics section is just a reflection of the mood of the country. I often have complete strangers bring up the subject in conversation. That may be more prevalent here in the south because the majority is conservative. I won't say anymore here because this is not the correct forum for politics.

However with that said I am not sure that if the political forum was dropped completely, that the other forums posting would then significantly increase. The car has been out of production now for 9 years. New and/or innovated after market mods have basically ceased. Prowler events are fewer. With the exception of an occasional problem.(many of which are experienced by new owners and have been covered before# and some people getting custom paint jobs. The new Prowler topics for discussion are becoming pretty limited. I do agree the personal attacks need to stop. We should be able to discuss any topic without getting personal about it. Realistically that is probably not in our human nature. There have been many flare ups over purely Prowler discussions. But I agree that politics has caused a significant increase.

Here is what I propose. Let's put a moratorium on political posts. It would have to last for at least a month to be a good indicator. Let's see how that effects the overall mood on the POA and also on the volume of other topics.

For me effective today I will not post anything political for 1 month. #until Dec 4th) If the results are positive I will cease altogether. But this will only work if everyone participates .

WINDY CITY PROWLER


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posted 11-04-2011 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WINDY CITY PROWLER     send a private message to WINDY CITY PROWLER   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by WINDY CITY PROWLER
How about getting rid of the Political section its really worthless.
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posted 11-04-2011 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beachcat     send a private message to beachcat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by beachcat
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Originally posted by WINDY CITY PROWLER:
How about getting rid of the Political section its really worthless.

I agree. It's a source of negativety that finds it's way into other forums. What do politics have to do with prowlers? Get rid of it is my vote,

ducati998
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I agree, i am a newbie on this site and have not even been in that section, mostly because i am not from the USA but i am sure you have the same problems we have in the UK, but i joined this site because i enjoy talking to people about the Prowler and to see what others have done to their cars, not to slag off other people the world is bad enough as it is without bringing it on to the site, as my father said to me "Treat others the way you would like to be treated" it costs nothing to have respect and manners for your fellow prowler owners, it's one of the few things in this life that costs nothing.
I am sure most would like it removed.
WINDY CITY PROWLER


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posted 11-04-2011 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WINDY CITY PROWLER     send a private message to WINDY CITY PROWLER   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by WINDY CITY PROWLER
Many other car sites don't have a Political forum. Actually i only know of one other car site that has a political forum. A political discussion forum only serves the purpose of arguing/fighting along with people who are not happy with the economy plus many others things.
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posted 11-04-2011 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WildCat     send a private message to WildCat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by WildCat
Political forum. What is that? I have never went to it

I check in daily, sometimes more than once, don't post much anymore.

Hate to see Bob deciding not to post. He is one of our BEST resources here or anywhere for the Prowler. His involvement from the beginning of the project to almost 10 years past the last production vehicle being built and then the help and assistance he has given is PRICELESS

Stay in touch and come back when you feel up to it.

Thanks Bob for everything

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Larry & Sue Mayes

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I agree. I never go to that forum. I get enough politics on FOX! This is for all things Prowler. That being said, I don't care what is said there if I don't go there.
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It's not here, it's everywhere, every site
STAY OUT OF THE OT FORUMS AND YOU'LL BE FINE
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posted 11-04-2011 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GenoTex     send a private message to GenoTex   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by GenoTex
That's the same reason my posts/participation have dribbled to a slow drip over the last couple of years.. just too exhausting to watch all the drama played out.
adacus

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posted 11-04-2011 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for adacus     send a private message to adacus   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by adacus
Hi Mike K,

Please "KILL" the Political Off Topic thread.

Two other things:

1) When someone post something to sell, leave his posting alone. They are exercising their right to post an item for sell. So many people want to pipe in " hey, look over here, it's cheaper.

2) When another vendor comes on here and offers a new product "LET THEM"

Case in point, the guy with the brake covers. That guy and his company were so pissed off by the comments from here, they just shut the thread down. Not to mention, he was offering a really really nice product.

This message has been edited by adacus on 11-04-2011 at 11:05 PM

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posted 11-05-2011 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garysss     send a private message to garysss   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by garysss
I don't care if the stays are goes, but no one is forcing anyone to look at it.
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posted 11-05-2011 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MDProwler     send a private message to MDProwler   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by MDProwler
Gee, I never saw this coming...
MDProwler



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posted 11-05-2011 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MDProwler     send a private message to MDProwler   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by MDProwler
I used to check in several times a day and posted alot but now maybe once a month unless I get a pm email alert.

As the car gets older it is even more relevant that we have access to options to fix it. These cars will continue to be bought and sold and new owners will need information and bring new ideas to the site.

It's been stated that we just not look so by not stopping here I don't have to. My contributions have stopped also.

ALLEY CAT





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posted 11-05-2011 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALLEY CAT     send a private message to ALLEY CAT   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ALLEY CAT
Deleted,,,,wrong forum, sorry.

This message has been edited by ALLEY CAT on 11-05-2011 at 11:15 PM

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...I pretty much ignore politics and religion...there is no right or wrong in either, just arguments
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posted 11-06-2011 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jpt     send a private message to jpt   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by jpt
Gentlemen,
Please keep this indispensable site going. I am a newbie and one big reason why I purchased my Kat is because of people like you. My knowledge of the engine and electronics of the car is "O". But I know that if needed, help is right at my fingertips or a phone call away.
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quote:
Originally posted by tangled up in BLUE:
...I pretty much ignore politics and religion...there is no right or wrong in either, just arguments


Bell,,,,your life is so boring,,you need to have some vices

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Come on people. Our favorite car tells us how to fix this;
Please Reply Offline With Loser Enginered Rhetoric.

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