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Hello fellow Prowler owners, hope all had a enjoyable holiday. I have a few questions about taking my prowler on a long trip. Me and my wife plan on taking the prowler to the grand canyon sometime this spring. This is a 2000 mile trip. Being 6'4 and over 200# is this going to be a trip from hell since the prowler isn't the most comfortable car. I planned on driving two 12 hour days and finishing the rest on the third day. My prowler is a 1999 and has less than 10,000 miles on it. I have flushed out the old brake fluid and changed antifreeze but that is it. Should I be concerned that the hoses or belts would fail. They seem to be in great shape. Also besides fix a flat for trailer tires should I buy the transmission sensors or what else can I expect to fall apart on this trip. Ed, you took a long trip How did your prowler hold out.
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I'm not 6' 4" but am well over 200 # . I have driven my car 10 - 14 hours per day at least 15 or 20 times and several dozen other trips of 7 hours or more. Comfort is a personal thing but I find my Prowler to be quite adequate.

For a couple, the trailer is a good idea to pack all the items needed for the long trip. I've never needed them but I take a set of the trannny sensors with me along with one each of the fan belts. Car cleaning supplies, basic tools, a flashlight, cellphone, my ipod and/or CD's for tunes, and cash and credit card and I'm ready for the road.

Have a great trip - I'd suggest the northern route through Colorado and Utah one way and the southern route through New Mexico and Texas the other.

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posted 01-05-2006 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pumpkin     send a private message to pumpkin   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by pumpkin
My Toy, if you do come through New Mexico drop by.We are in Las Cruces, just off of I-10, going to El Paso texas. Will keep the porch light on.
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Originally posted by MY TOY:
...Me and my wife plan on taking the prowler ..Being 6'4 and over 200# is this going to be a trip from hell since the prowler isn't the most comfortable car...

I'm not sure that "the Prowler isn't the most comfortable car" is as important as the wife"s disposition (undying LOVE for you)!!! LOL

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The poor prowler driving comfort is not the problem. Because you notice this only if the street are bad !! And , many major highways in the USA are a pice o.sh. Your goverment should inverst a bit more tax money and all prowlers and hot rodders will be happy.
Anyway, I cruised from Can.over Mi,OH,Il,Ky,TN,and many other staates down to florida with my prower, before I shipped to europe. I loved it ! I enjoyed the perfect working cruise-controle and the AC on long trips.
The only Problem I see is, where do you put your bagage for the trip. Visit not only the Grand Canyon. Las Vegas is close, Utah is very nice , California anyway, and . . . .
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I'm 6'2" and 210lbs and find the drivers seat very comfortable. I can drive 12+ hrs a day no problem. You have to remember that with the small fuel tank your going to get out of the seat quite often to refuel and stretch, get a snack or meal etc.

Good advice from Marty, have a little emergency kit like he suggested. I carry the sensors in the glove box all the time. On long trips I carry a small emergency kit too. Hope never to need them but good for the peice of mind.

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I've done many 12 to 14 hour days in the Prowler,,,,no problems. 5,000 mile round trip this past summer. I would buy a tranny input and output sensors though,,,just to be safe.

Drive safe,,,,,have fun. You'll enjoy the Grand Canyon. Spend some $$$ in Arizona,,,,,we need the income, lol.

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posted 01-05-2006 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
I carry the sensors and a deep socket and flex head ratchet. Tire repair kit and a small compressor takes care of almost any flat. A set of sockets and a set of ratchet box ends and a few screwdrivers, vise grips, etc. and you are set.
We took back roads, drove with the top down almost the entire trip. Getting there can be as much or more fun than the destination. Back roads are a little slower but not as hectic and not many big trucks throwing rocks at you all day. You can find some out of the way places to eat and not get stuck at McDonalds every exit.
We took our time and really enjoyed a relaxing trip. With the top down it is much more enjoyable and not all that bad on the back roads.
I'm 6 2" and weigh 225 and think the car is uncomfortable. Others think it is really comfortable. Go figure. Some folks would never take back roads. You have to do what makes you happy. I have to worry about sunburn and windburn on my receding forehead (lol) with the top down but it is worth it. That is why we bought it.
The Prowler is as dependable as any other car. Crap happens sometimes but if you take enough junk for any situation, you will never need any of it. If you leave it at home, you will need it for sure.
We bought a back pack thing that we hang between the seats. Good for cell phones, maps, camera, gum, etc. You don't want a large one or it will be too bulky and get in the way.
We drove to Nova Scotia this past August. We drove to the Utah/Colo border another year. I had 50,000 miles on the first one and really no problems other than the sensors twice. ATTN: A/C, it still had the original batttery.
Take your time, enjoy the trip.

This message has been edited by ed monahan on 01-05-2006 at 10:37 PM

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ok her it is "MY TOY" This is the most sensible thing to do ... pack the things for the Grand Canyon in a bag and FedEx it to your location ahead of time.
Make the Hotel aware of this bag arriving and to keep it in safe keeping till you get there.
Pack what you might need for the overnight stuff in the trunk in a suit bag and don't worry about the comfort or breaking down.
Is your car stock? if so it will run well, I have done long road trips in Colorado up in the mountains and the car is a blast....
Just take a cell phone and call if you need help ok ...
You wont promise have a ball ...
Happy trails dude
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Gents, my car is in winter storage at the moment but reading all
of the above make me want to get it out and drive it although roads
are covered with Salt at the moment. Don't make it sound so tempting

Only thing I would add, and perhaps Marty already solved it with his I-POD,
is to add a couple of ear plugs. The sound is OK for the
first hours but the loudness can get a little anoying if
you drive it for 8 or more hours a day, highways only.


Save miles, sounds like a lot of fun.

Best regards,

Kees

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Originally posted by IM IN XTC:
Is your car stock? if so it will run well..

XTC...just curious how you came to that conclusion??..

TOY...These cars are incredibly reliable and I don't see you having any problems.

*Without Teeing your wife off..somehow suggest "Honey, do you really need that GIANT purse on this trip?"

*Depressure your tires to the lowest side of the safe zone..(just enough to keep the low tire sensor from chimming). You'll be amazed at how just a one or two pound difference in tire pressure changes the ride.

*Check the tension on your belts..get them as tight as you can and then tighen an addtional full round .

*Ship all vacation purchases back home

ENJOY!!

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From ED:
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I carry the sensors and a deep socket and flex head ratchet. Tire repair kit and a small compressor takes care of almost any flat. A set of sockets and a set of ratchet box ends and a few screwdrivers, vise grips, etc. and you are set.

This only applies when Sandy goes along, so someone in the car knows how to use those things!

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My Toy
Most important thing to do of course is have fun!!! Kruizin Kat is right...you'll have to stop frequently for fuel breaks so stretching your legs shouldn't be a problem.
I would also change your oil (Mobil 1) and filter (NAPA Gold) before you leave.
In addition to what you've already done...I would also dump your tranny fluid and replace its screen. I assume it's never been changed seeing as how your cat has only 10K on it. Unfortunately when you do this, you will have to contend with the aluminum crossmember that is right in the way. This makes it a little difficult to drop the tranny pan. Some of us have installed drain plugs which eliminates removal of that crossmember for future flushes.

Ed's covered just about everything else!!!

Did anyone mention a tube of "Chapstick"? Just in case the seams on the top leak. We all know that never happens!
The Roadside Emergency kits are pretty cool. The small ones of course. In addition to that I also carry along a couple of those reflective triangles just in case you break down. It's amazing how some people have a hard time seeing you at night.
One last item...I also carry a copy of the illustrations below. I keep them in the pocket behind the passengers seat. Have fun!!!


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We drove 5200 miles in three weeks in the Prowler. One day we drove 13 hours. I found that I was no more tired driving the Prowler than the Cadillac we had at the time. However I am only 5' 7.5" tall. The Prowler trailer holds an amazing amount of stuff. We prefer to drive long distance with the top up and the AC going. We found we don't feel nearly as beat up that way and you will probably get better gas mileage with the top up and the windows closed. I have nothing to prove that theory however.
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I don't know if this term really exists, but I get "driving narcolepsy". After about 4 to 5 hours, I get a weird feeling where I am staring and almost fall asleep. I will stop, exercise, get coffee etc. When I get back in the car I get the same feeling in about 10 minutes, it just won't go away. This causes me anxiety when I have to drive a long distance over 5 hours, like to the Wisconsin event. At the POA Wisconsin event this last summer I cured my Problem. I stopped at Cracker Barrel in Lexington and got a book on cd! BTW not a Prowler specific problem. AC and Ed, I don't know how you drive so far.

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my toy
all great suggestions from the people that are in the know
i have made many trips with my sweetheart, last being to vermont where i met paul and brian
the trip was long and the weather sucked, but it was one the best times of our lives.
we will not travel distance without the trailer, it is a must
usually by the time we get back home from one of these trips, i cannot fit a toothpick into the trailer (my sweetheart loves to shop)
amoung the emergency type items i carry in the trailer, i also keep a brand new 2 gallon empty gas container(just in case).
have a great trip and trust me, you will enjoy it and so will everyone that sees you on the road.

sam

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I also keep a brand new 2 gallon empty gas container(just in case).

Great idea Sam! Do they make collapsible gas containers to be used just for an emergency? If they don't...they should.

Brian

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not sure partner
but the 2 gallon jug i have is very small and would even fit under the trunk lid if i did not have the trailer with me.


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Originally posted by TooHipCat:
Great idea Sam! Do they make collapsible gas containers to be used just for an emergency? If they don't...they should.

Brian


Sound like an entreprenurial idea Brian.... remember me when you make your second million

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I saw a gas can like this in a catalog somewhere. Don't remember where, but if I see one again I'll post about it.

It was like a milk carton with a gas resistant bladder in it.

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Here's a link to one company I found that sells emergency travel gas cans - there's probably others out there:
http://www.safetycentral.com/gasohaul.html
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Guys, Many of you say you take spare tranny sensors with you on a trip. Would someone please explain & where can I purchase them. Are owners having problems? Thanks
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I drove my Kat From Los Angeles. to Boulder Co. straight in one day.

I have and love my Prowler Pro gears! So yeah I stopped every 138 miles for gas.

Trust me you will get to stand up and talk about your prowler ALOT! at gas stations. I had the top down both ways I'm 6'2" and 175 I only fit in the hard top.

I had the belts and hoses and ALL fluids changed befor my trip 2000 with 20,000 Miles. I did not have a problem. It's a great car, rember inside it's great looks its a good old chrysler 300m ( I Always carry a spare input and out put trans sensors)

I love my kat and in 25,000 miles she has treated me great! 2 oil changes a year and every two years I change the brake and trans. fluids.

REMEMBER THE TRANS HAS THREE DIFFERENT FLUIDS!!!!!!!
engine oil not even my dealer new about this one!
Diff. oil ( I add the anti slip additive from the dealer.)
ATF +4

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Originally posted by galaxie:
Guys, Many of you say you take spare tranny sensors with you on a trip. Would someone please explain & where can I purchase them. Are owners having problems? Thanks


You can buy them from the dealer. for around $30 for both of them. I believe you can get them from Checkers also. Not having problems, just good insurance. A small town may not have them and its a quick fix.

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You can get sensors at NAPA auto parts. They are about $ 17 each. I have had the problem twice. The car goes into limp mode, stuck in 2nd gear. If you lay on your back under the back of the car, on the driver's side you can look straight up at them. There are some brake lines kind of in the way, hence the swivel head ratchet and 1 inch deep socket. They are a weak link in all Chrysler trannies but not everyone has had a problem, maybe only 1 percent but it can be aggravating to be in the middle of nowhere and need them.

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