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BeWare





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posted 01-30-2005 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeWare     send a private message to BeWare   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by BeWare
I took the Cat out for a short run today. It's been awhile since I drove it last. At least a couple months. Anyway I decided to see how it would perform. I nailed it from a dead stop. It started spinning the tires. After about 10 to 15 feet or so of laying rubber it started getting sideways. The only other time I have experienced this was at the Prowler drags in Texas last June. Back then I chalked it up to the track surface. I wish I could run it through the qaurter in this cool air. I have to find a way of getting cooler air to the motor without modifying the side panels. I don't want to have to re-do our custom paint. I don't want to cut a hole in the hood either. I am going have to think on a solution.

This message has been edited by BeWare on 01-30-2005 at 10:33 PM

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posted 01-31-2005 06:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale Beaman     send a private message to Dale Beaman   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Dale Beaman
Rich,
How about running a cold air chamber from the AC unit like Ford did with the Lightening F-150? On WOT the AC kicks on and forces cold air into the induction system and they claim an extra 50 HP!

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posted 01-31-2005 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
Rich, do you think that the cold tires and cold surface also contributed to the wheel spin?
I ought to be able to spin the tires in all 4 gears, it has been so cold here lately. lol
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posted 01-31-2005 07:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CTProwler     send a private message to CTProwler   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CTProwler
Cold tires on my Viper and its the same result. Only has to be in the 50's-low 60's. 5-10 Wow! It would be like driving on Ice.

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Originally posted by CTProwler:
Cold tires on my Viper and its the same result. Only has to be in the 50's-low 60's. 5-10 Wow! It would be like driving on Ice.


Judging from the pictures of Georgia on TV, He might be driving on ice. JMO

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Hmmm, I always wondered if it was feasible to pump cold air from the AC to the intake.
Very likely cold ground and tires contributed but the car felt faster as well. No Ice on the roads Sunday. We had a heat wave and it go up to 42.
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Originally posted by BeWare:
Hmmm, I always wondered if it was feasible to pump cold air from the AC to the intake.
Very likely cold ground and tires contributed but the car felt faster as well. No Ice on the roads Sunday. We had a heat wave and it go up to 42.


Using your AC to pump cold air into your air intake is sort self defeating. as soon as you turn on the ac you lose Horsepower.

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quote:
Originally posted by BeWare:
Hmmm, I always wondered if it was feasible to pump cold air from the AC to the intake.
Very likely cold ground and tires contributed but the car felt faster as well. No Ice on the roads Sunday. We had a heat wave and it go up to 42.

No heatwave here! Started snowing about 3 hours ago. Already 4-5 inches on the ground. I want to get out of this hell hole and move WAY south. HELP !!!

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posted 01-31-2005 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KlasKat     send a private message to KlasKat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by KlasKat
There was a product mentioned here about 3 weeks ago which was a Sport Vent you could attach to each side panel. Do not know if anyone has ordered a pair yet but they might help. www.custompartsplus.com
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posted 01-31-2005 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeWare     send a private message to BeWare   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by BeWare
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Originally posted by PAHs Sunset Ride:
There was a product mentioned here about 3 weeks ago which was a Sport Vent you could attach to each side panel. Do not know if anyone has ordered a pair yet but they might help. www.custompartsplus.com

Those are non functional stick on. Besides I have custom flames paint job so changing my side panels is not an option. Need to figure a way around the radiator for and air vent intake behind the grille.

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posted 01-31-2005 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Usher     send a private message to Marty Usher   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Marty Usher
I believe I was told that the ECU temporarily shuts down the Air Conditioning compressor at WOT. Maybe someone can confirm that. Just use a small shot of nitrous. It's just cold air mixed with nitrogen.
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BT tends to spin wheels in cold weather if I don't watch it.

Also your tire pressure drops in cooler weather making the tire rely more heavily on the beefed up sidewalls....that explains a lot of wheelspin on top of cold tire tread/ cold asphalt.

But don't get me wrong...the car runs like a scalded KAT on a cold day...just from the Cold air being sucked in.

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posted 02-02-2005 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chi_Town_Prowler     send a private message to Chi_Town_Prowler   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Chi_Town_Prowler
WOW!! I thought it was just me that noticed that!! The car actually DOES run quicker in the cool weather. I've taken mine out a few times recently and in the cold Chicago air, it seems like this thing just bolts!! Its the same type of difference that can be felt on a Buick Grand National. When that cold air hits that turbo engine, it just flat WAKES UP AND HAULS!! That was the first thought that hit me when I punched it in my Prowler. It seemed like I was in my Buick. Cold air definitely makes this car perform differently!!

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