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posted 12-25-2002 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chromer     send a private message to Chromer   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Chromer
The Damiler Chrysler Grinch tried to steal my kids Christmas when I needed another over priced Prowler part. I almost bought it the heck with the kids Christmas money (besides, they bark a lot).
But....I'm proud to say I said no to the part. I kept the Christmas spirit, amd there's plenty of "Ol Roy" dog food for all the kids this Christmas.

Quick..without looking it up in the parts catalog (no cheating) how much do you think the "wholesale cost" on this headlight switch escutcheon is?

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Jack the Wonder Dog and Chromer

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Five 50 pound bags of "Ol Roy" dog food & three boxes of small sized "Milk Bones". Am I close?
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posted 12-25-2002 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chromer     send a private message to Chromer   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Chromer
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Originally posted by prowlerbabe:
Five 50 pound bags of "Ol Roy" dog food & three boxes of small sized "Milk Bones". Am I close?

Dear ProwlerBabe,

Yes..your guess is close...I figure your guess adds up to about $50. Now if you were talking Alpo..you would have been closer..

No Cigar..sorry ProwlerBabe..anyone else?

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This message has been edited by Chromer on 12-30-2002 at 03:04 PM

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Three bucks. Am I right?

If it's more than that put "Jack TWD" up front on the bumper and have him bark when you are close to something at night. You won't need the headlights then.

Have a good Christmas Chromer, and all. If that dog food is good enough for Jack it must be good enough for you and your kids.

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Canīt be more than 12.99, right?

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To be honest, if that part broke on me, and it wasn't covered under warranty, you would see me heating up my hot glue gun!
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Chromer

The cost is one less Happy DC owner who feels ripped off and will not buy from them again, or recommend their products to anyone else.

Other wise $15.00 US and $25.00 CDN

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So Chromer, what is the price? Was Brian right? Mine broke just last week.
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HOT GLUE GUN

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posted 12-30-2002 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chromer     send a private message to Chromer   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Chromer
Hey Tarzan,
The "dealer cost" on the headlight switch bezel is $68.75 (ooouuuch!!)

Hey Black Tie,
A glue gun MIGHT be good if it would magically re-create the missing tang that broke off somewhere behind the dashboard?

Chromer

This message has been edited by Chromer on 12-30-2002 at 02:58 PM

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Chromer..........how in the world did you do that?


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The cost is one less Happy DC owner who feels ripped off and will not buy from them again, or recommend their products to anyone else.

Like all the other car manufacturers don't charge outrageous prices for their parts?

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I think somebody is adding a little to the price. The retail price for the bezel, part number PF81LAZ is $24.00.
Let me know if you want one.
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Roughly $68.75 at dealer cost!?!?! Yikes! That'll round up to around $100 after mark-up and tax. I agree, Chromer, I'll think I'll live with it rattling around headlight switch knob.

I was thinking of some kind of glue as well, but it would have to be a pretty thin line around the back. Otherwise, it'll glob out and look pretty ugly.

CJ -- How did we do it? I dunno. It just happened on its own. (Probably when pulling the headlamp switch out too firmly just one time).

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Chromer..........how in the world did you do that?



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I guess the same way Tarzan (and other caring Prowler owners) broke theirs. By turning the headlights on at night.

Shame on us for expecting that obviously well built and fairly priced part to hold up at least as well as a Yugo.

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posted 12-30-2002 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     send a private message to CJ   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CJ
C'mon Chromer...........not had that happen to either one of my cats..........maybe a little lighter touch would do?
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HOT GLUE AND DUCT TAPE...

Seriously, if you don't hear the broken piece rattling around the dashboard, you can fix it free with some prowler ingenuity....It worked on the center caps!

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Chromer - lots of black duct tape!!! That is DUCK tape to our California readers

I've seen two others break in Az. Think I will use TLC when pulling out that switch from now on.

Chromer, maybe you could auction off Jack's hair to make a afghan coat to cover the cost?

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Originally posted by Tom Mills:
I think somebody is adding a little to the price. The retail price for the bezel, part number PF81LAZ is $24.00.
Let me know if you want one.

Tom - your $24.00 price sounds a whole lot more reasonable than the $68.75 price Chromer was quoted.

Maybe someone needs to buy several "parts" cars to sell needed parts to POA members in the future!

This message has been edited by Marty Usher on 12-31-2002 at 08:13 AM

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My local dealer said he can get it from another dealer and my cost would be $24.00.

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AC: Our local Walmart actually sells "DUCK TAPE" ! It actually says that on the package!
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posted 12-31-2002 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chromer     send a private message to Chromer   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Chromer
Tom Mills,
I called Denver Lithia Chrysler first thing this morning to verify the orignal quote on the switch bezel. Your quote is much, much closer than the one I got in November when I talked to "Tim" the parts guy. I'm a little surpised the mis-quote wasn't caught then because I got fairly irritated at what I considered to be a rip off cost.

The price I was quoted this morning for the headlight bezel part # PF81LAZ was $33.41. Thanks for doing some research on the part (I thought I had done mine). If it's not too much hassle, If you can get me the part for $24, that would be appreciated!

Black Tie,
You have convinced me I NEED a hot glue gun. I'm going to spring for one (any particular type or brand I should get?). I plan to use it on the new switch bezel BEFORE installation to re-enforce the the bezel tangs. Kind of like a lot of folks have done with the center caps?

CJ,
You are probably right..if Prowler drivers would just "have a lighter touch" we wouldn't have any trouble with those bezels breaking, center caps snapping or Chrome falling off our wheels.

AC,
Jack says he's not giving up any of his hair without a bite.

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Chromer, mine broke off at about 10,000 miles and the dealer replaced it. It then broke off again but out of warranty and, like you, I almost s%#t when they said the price.. I put superglue around the backside of the collar and it has not moved since. If the light switch ever has to be replace it can be removed without removing the bezel piece.. The knob and shaft releases from inside the switch and the switch comes out the back, no need to remove the bezel..

For what it's worth dept...

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You are probably right..if Prowler drivers would just "have a lighter touch" we wouldn't have any trouble with those bezels breaking, center caps snapping or Chrome falling off our wheels.

Gasp! Maybe you'd better sell it before the whole thing falls apart and look for a "perfect" car. Just curious as to how hard you have to yank the headlight switch to get it to do that? Sorry.......two cats.......three and a half years......no broken bezels, no broken center caps, no flaky chrome, no tears in the roof......etc. etc... guess I am just extraordinarily lucky!!

Do you suppose the "dealers" might have something to do with inflated prices?

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CJ, you do not have to pull hard on the switch, in fact you don't have to do anything except turn the lights on and one day you notice the bezel is broken when you can't get the lights to turn off because the bezel is hanging out.. This has nothing to do with anyone abusing their car except for driving it daily. I don't think you can compare the weekend use to a daily driver. In my 45,000 miles on the 99, it came with pitted wheels, not noticed when picked up, dealer replaced them. The hubcaps break VERY easy, no 400 lbs gorilla taking them off, just my careful self. You actually have to take them off to know they break. The rear defogger wire broke from putting the top up and down to often, I guess. The bath tub of water leaks even after the rubbers were replaced, opening the windows too much?? The worn spot in the top under the back window where it rubs on the trunk carpet, even when strapped down. This all goes to the car is like any other car, things break through no fault of the owner.

Now if you ask me do I love my Prowler, you bet I do!! I own nothing but DC products and the others don't have as much wrong with them.

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quote:
Originally posted by Tarzan:
. . . . How did we do it? I dunno. It just happened on its own. (Probably when pulling the headlamp switch out too firmly just one time).

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Originally posted by ALLEY CAT:
. . . . Think I will use TLC when pulling out that switch from now on.

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Originally posted by Chromer:
. . . . if Prowler drivers would just "have a lighter touch" we wouldn't have any trouble with those bezels breaking

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Originally posted by CJ:
Just curious as to how hard you have to yank the headlight switch to get it to do that?

If we approach this logically, I think we'll find a very simple explanation. I don't want anyone to get upset, but I believe that all of the statements above are BACKWARDS - the breakage occurs GOING IN, not pulling out.

Here's what I found:

I gently pulled out the switch on GRROWL. The bezel was VERY loose and wobbly, so I pulled it forward onto the shaft. The three legs on the bezel are all intact, but it went back in very easily and even rotated around the hole.

Here's what I believe happens:
1. The switch is pulled forward to turn on the lights.
2. The bezel, on a random occasion, rides forward with the shaft (since it is dark, this likely wouldn't be noticed).
3. When pushing in the switch, the legs on the bezel most likely will hit the un-notched area around the hole and at least one may break. This problem will not be noticed since the switch will hold the broken bezel in place.
4. The NEXT TIME THE LIGHT IS TURNED ON (or some future time) the bezel rides out and the breakage will be noticed.

From what I have seen, I believe this to be almost a certainly. In fact, to prove it can't happen when pulling out the switch, try this:
1. Hold the bezel firmly in place with one hand.
2. Pull the switch all of the way out with your other hand.
You will see that, no matter how hard you pull, the bezel is not "hit" by the switch.

I'd be interested to hear any other analyses or opinions.

-GRROWL


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