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whealy     POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Carmel, IN USA |
posted 09-10-2002 02:37 PM
    
I got my chrome DekProTec a few weeks ago. I decided to order another as I didn't like the way my installation went. ( Previous Post ) So now I need to remove the old one. Any words of wisdom out there on how to remove? ------------------ |
Marty Usher      POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:San Antonio, Texas, United States |
posted 09-10-2002 03:42 PM
How about carefully!! How's that for a smarta$$ answer.  Actually, see what others post but I would heat with a hair dryer to get adhesive pliable and make every effort to pull off in one piece. Good luck with it. Marty |
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YellowFever unregistered Admin Use |
posted 09-10-2002 03:48 PM
quote: A heat gun (alot hotter then a hair drier) works wonders on adhesive and won't harm the paint provided you don't leave it in one spot too long. I've used them for years. You can find them at hardware stores like Home Depot. |
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whealy POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Carmel, IN USA |
posted 09-10-2002 04:20 PM
Thanks guys, But is this really an adhesive? There isn't any adhesive when you put it on. Does the soap and water combine with the vinyl to create an adhesive? I was thinking of getting it real wet again. Marty - is the heat gun how you got your first one off? |
GRROWL POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Herndon, VA |
posted 09-10-2002 04:36 PM
My point of reference is going back about 25 years, but I doubt that anything has changed. The 3M reflective film at that time acted the same way - you could move it all around, but once you pressed it in place, that was it. The way they did it was that the adhesive was encapsulated in microscopic beads that burst when pressed down. The end result was a very even, full-area glue lamination. Can anyone confirm or deny whether this is still the case? -GRROWL |
fixumm POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Roselle ILL |
posted 09-10-2002 06:24 PM
GO TO ANY PAINT/AUTOBODY SUPPLY. WE HAVE AN STRIPE REMOVER THAT GOES ON THE END OF A HIGH SPEED DRILL....LOOKS LIKE AN ERASER.... ON ANY CLEAR COAT (ONLY) PAINT IT WILL TAKE ANY GLUE OR STRIPE TAPE OFF WITH OUT HARMING THE PAINT, I HAVE BEEN USING THEM FOR YEARS AND NEVER F-UPED ANY PAINT JOB.............FIXUMM EDITED FOR SPELL CHECK,, NOW I KNOW WHAT THAT BUTTON DOSE This message has been edited by fixumm on 09-10-2002 at 06:26 PM |
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Marty Usher POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:San Antonio, Texas, United States |
posted 09-10-2002 06:32 PM
fixumm's reply sounds likegood advise. I will ask our grahic dept what they use to remove vinyl when they reletter trucks. |
ALLEY CAT           POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 09-10-2002 10:03 PM
"W" - DO NOT do what Ed did to get his off,,,,,,oxy/acetylene torch is not the tool for that job. |
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growl POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:San Ramon, CA |
posted 09-11-2002 01:16 AM
Somewhere I remember that in the DekProTec (sp) posts that they said after two years it's a difficult trick. I'd ask the DecProTek folks. My guess is that a hair drier or heat gun of any kind is not a good choice. My first try would be to use the the original solution, ivory soap diluted with lottsa water. Put down a plastic drop and spray the hell out of it. Pick at the corners and if it comes up... spray and pick.... carefully. Lots of water and soap and keep the water/soap out of the car. When you put it back, be careful of the little point in the spine of the P. Wipe drivers side to passenger side until things dry. There are some flimmsy things in the middle of some of the letters... careful... watch the alignments. ~bg |
ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 09-11-2002 02:35 AM
Soap and water is not going to do a thing, in my opinion. It is not going to get under the vinyl and you have a great chance of scratching the paint unless you have a loose edge. WD-40 will loosen the adhesive if you can get it started. I think heating it will make it a little more pliable. (The oxy/acetylene torch took if off clean as a whistle. No runs, no drips, no errors) Fixxum is in the business so I would venture to say he knows the most. WAIT A MINUTE, did I really just say that? Let me go check my meds to see if I am under the influence of something. |
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fixumm POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Roselle ILL |
posted 09-11-2002 06:36 AM
OMG ed i think your loosing it LOL. But when it comes to a paint finish i would not steer or stear (what ever) you wrong.... |
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fixumm POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Roselle ILL |
posted 09-11-2002 06:44 AM
 this is one kind of a stripe remover tool, but you can buy one that goes in the end of a drill for about $18.00 This message has been edited by fixumm on 09-11-2002 at 06:46 AM |
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whealy POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Carmel, IN USA |
posted 09-13-2002 10:49 PM
Thanks to everyone for their advice. I also placed an email to Paul (the seller/manufacturer) and he gave me the following advice. If for some reason, he has an issue with this, I’ll pull his comments from my post. Bill, use a hair dryer to heat the surface of the chrome vinyl being sure to I'd next use 3M's glue and adhesive remover from a car parts store. READ AND Good luck. I took his advice except I used a heat gun (thanks YellowFever) and it all came off fine. The key piece was the 3M adhesive remover. That stuff worked great. The second application went much better. I still think the use of the Pledge Grab-it towel made all the difference in the world at removing the dust. Special thanks to GRROWL for his description of how the adhesive worked. No one validated you description, but for me that made sense. It also helped on the re-application as I realized I was probably putting down the adhesive with the squeegee not just pushing out the bubbles. So I touched every square inch, not just the parts where I though I had bubbles like I did the first time. Hey I never claimed to be an expert. Also, thanks to fixumm. That stripe remover looks cool. However, I was way too intimidated to buy one for my drill (not that I found one in the Indy area nor would I necessarily know where to look) and work with it on my car without assistance. I thought about driving up to Chicago and having his guys take it off for me, but ultimately I took the path I/Paul described here.
This message has been edited by whealy on 09-13-2002 at 10:50 PM |
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GRROWL POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Herndon, VA |
posted 09-14-2002 08:17 AM
whealy, You have a real gem buried in there that I wish I knew about before I did mine:
quote: Consider this a nomination to the "Inventors Hall of Fame" (if it ever comes off). See: -GRROWL |
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GRROWL POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Herndon, VA |
posted 09-14-2002 08:21 AM
whealy, You have a real gem buried in there that I wish I knew about before I did mine:
quote: Consider this a nomination to the "Inventors Hall of Fame" (if it ever comes off). See: -GRROWL |
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ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 09-14-2002 08:39 AM
I used the 3M adhesive remover to remove the factory decals off a '83 toyota pick-up many years ago, and it worked very good. It can be bought at most automotive paint & body shop supply houses, or any CARQUEST Auto Parts store,,,think it sells from $12 to $16 for a can of it. |
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ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 09-14-2002 07:32 PM
Common lighter fluid or WD 40 will work. Decals are basically the same as bumper stickers or plastic electrical tape. The soapy water is to be able to move them around a little and has nothing to do with them sticking. |
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whealy POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Carmel, IN USA |
posted 09-14-2002 09:54 PM
Well Ed, the 3M adhesive remover did smell a lot like gasoline or turpentine. So I don’t think you’re too far off. I mainly went with the 3M product because I felt it was safer and worth the $12. |
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