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moparmania

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posted 04-11-2003 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moparmania     send a private message to moparmania   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by moparmania
Hi everone . Sorry to say Im throwing in the towel on this Hemi project .
With the engine sitting in place the back of the engine touching the rear aluminum crossmember The tip of the water pump and belt tensioners are 1/2 inch away from the radiator . Their is no room for any kind of fan ! As you know their is no room for the rad to be moved ahead . The width is no problem lots of room for headers the stock manifolds dont work . The only proper way to do this is to cut and move the firewall back about 5 inches. Their is no way Im going to cut up this car or butcher it . Its just to nice a car the way it is . Im probably going to sell the Hemi and purchase a paxton setup for it, or put the Hemi in my wifes car .
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posted 04-11-2003 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SirReal     send a private message to SirReal   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by SirReal
Sad news, but sometimes a good retreat is better than a sloppy stand. Look on the bright side. You own a PROWLER! Hang in there!
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Mopar, why not spend those hemi $ on redoing the internals of the motor and trans to make it really go and put in a twin turbo set up?
moparmania

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posted 04-12-2003 05:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moparmania     send a private message to moparmania   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by moparmania
Todd that could be an option . I dont want to get sand kicked in my face at the stop signs!!
Tom Santella
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posted 04-12-2003 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom Santella     send a private message to Tom Santella   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Tom Santella
Thats to bad . I was really looking forward to seeing what everybodys dream set up would be like. Good try.

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posted 04-12-2003 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Usher     send a private message to Marty Usher   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Marty Usher
I appauld you for trying. It's probably a smart decision to stop before you cut up the car, especially not knowing if even after that it would work. There are some decent performance options still available out there. Let us know what you decide to do.

Happy Prowling

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Would it be possible to make (or have made) a custom radiator that is smaller but thicker and move it forward about 4-5" and then use electric fans on it?????

Just a guess.

I really wanted to see the hemi in it!!!!!!!

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posted 04-12-2003 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JUST JP     send a private message to JUST JP   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by JUST JP
Moparmania,
I'll look and see if I can find your other thread where I asked if you had thought about a twin small radiator set up.
We ALL wanted to see you pull this off. The cooling problem should be able to be worked out. Let us know.

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posted 04-12-2003 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randy Cobb     send a private message to Randy Cobb   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Randy Cobb
Mopar -
I agree with Marty.
At least you tried to make a dream come true!
It took some big ones to try and pull it off.

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posted 04-13-2003 01:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jd2ksilver     send a private message to jd2ksilver   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by jd2ksilver
Mine, Dan Pena, and another have moved our radiators up one inch. Took some cutting and re-fab, but it could be done.
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posted 04-13-2003 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dpena     send a private message to dpena   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by dpena
You have to modify this piece which is the front end of your Kat...

Hard to see but here you can see where the cutting occured.

The new radiator is a 4 row, serpintine radiator with dimpled tubes. That is the water flows like "S" through the radiator so it will go accross the fan 3 times.




moparmania

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posted 04-13-2003 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moparmania     send a private message to moparmania   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by moparmania
Dan the second last picture is a good example . You can barely get your fingers between the coil spring upper mounting bolts and your a/c condenser on a stock Prowler. Even if you moved the rad ahead 1 inch and threw the a/c condenser in the garbage . The other 4 inches would have you moving the complete coil springs & front suspension ahead . Which would be stetching the whole car another major mod..
I want to cruise with the top down and the a/c on full blast!!
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posted 04-14-2003 02:29 PM           send a private message to moparmania   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by YellowFever
Oddly enough, I saw a car (I think a 32 chopped coupe?) this weekend that had a front end similar to the prowler.

Anyway, they put the electric fans IN FRONT of the radiator not behind it.

It looks like you'd have room to do this and that would get rid of the fans behind the radiator all together.

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posted 04-14-2003 04:05 PM           send a private message to moparmania   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Todd Cameron
Jan knows of a guy in AZ making a 4 core that's a bolt in for $800.
lavka

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posted 04-15-2003 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lavka     send a private message to lavka   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by lavka
Don't give up just yet.
Think about relocating the water pump to make room for an electric fan.
Companies like Mezier racing in Escondido, CA can probably make you a billet aluminum remotely mounted electric water pump and billet low profile plumbing to hook it all together. You can probably get them anodized in the color of your choice too. Call them up and ask.
http://www.meziere.com/home.htm


You might gain 5 or more inches by relocating stuff from the front of the motor in this way.


Marty Usher



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posted 04-17-2003 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Usher     send a private message to Marty Usher   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Marty Usher
I think it is cool that so many people are encouraging this hot rodding project and posting suggestions! I would love to see a new HEMI in a Prowler!
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posted 04-17-2003 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WildCat     send a private message to WildCat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by WildCat
quote:
Originally posted by Marty Usher:
I think it is cool that so many people are encouraging this hot rodding project and posting suggestions! I would love to see a new HEMI in a Prowler!

my thoughts too

I was thinking about the remote water pump and twin radiators under the car like on some exotics

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posted 04-07-2004 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for catfish     send a private message to catfish   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by catfish
the 4row is made by ron davis racing radiators in phx.he has a web site same name.i believe i pd.about 760.00.a beautiful piece of work.he does a lot of nascar rads also, and a good warranty.my original one from him was out of warranty,i removed it to do some other wofk,and noticed it had a leak at the top sides,it was out of warranty probably 6 months he said send it back,which i did,he didnt even repair it ,he made another one for me. no charge.good co.to do business with.i was expecting a runaround,because out of warranty,or at the most a repair,he replaced,because he said it shouldnt have leaked.

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