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jd2ksilver


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posted 09-20-2001 03:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jd2ksilver     send a private message to jd2ksilver   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by jd2ksilver
Drove 2 1/2 hours to get there, cooled down about 45 min before running.


Will scan slips and send to Dan,, three are pretty light on the print.


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First run
13.711 et 103.120 mph
driver shifting errors

Second run
13.504 et 100.751 mph
driver asleep at the line

Third run
13.254 et 104.121 mph
a little better

Fourth run
13.250 et 104.486 mph ,,

The first three were test and tune, the fourth was a bracket run. I had to post 14 sec cause no roll bar. Then ran for quick time knowing it would be my last.

My reaction was all over the board, embarrassing.
1. .565
2. .965
3. .736
4. .941

Could have been in the 12s if I would have settled down. I'll be ready next time.

But it has been over a year since at the track. Now I know where this place is, I'll be going back soon. Tons of fun, no Mustang came near me. Ran a pretty hot Firebird, 1 tenth faster than me.

BTW the car gets retired in 4 weeks, no one wants to race up here or will come up.

Times are pretty good, but will be better next time, with a more at ease driver and some go go gas.

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posted 09-20-2001 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     send a private message to CJ   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CJ

Sounds like you had a great time! Now if you can just work on those operator errors!! LOL!!

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posted 09-20-2001 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laddie Roussel     send a private message to Laddie Roussel   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Laddie Roussel
Hi JD. good times...

Sounds like all your runs were with A/S. did you run any with just auto...

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posted 09-20-2001 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jd2ksilver     send a private message to jd2ksilver   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by jd2ksilver
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Your not kidding. First two runs the tree started way before I was ready. The last run was right after a long delay to clear the track. O well, it will get better.
Laddie
first run started in 1st, wanted to get max rpm out of it. but shifted to soon to drive. The car went into second, back down to first then back to second gear.
Second run I fell asleep at the line, auto stick in first then drive.
Third was auto, with rpms at 1200 with line lock. spun them pretty good in first and beginning of second.
Fourth run was auto, started at idle. spun in first again but not as bad, still spun hitting second.
Never checked air pressure. I was like a fish out of water out there. But the car has a lot of low end torque.
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This message has been edited by jd2ksilver on 09-20-2001 at 08:39 AM

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so what's with the RETIRED thing?

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Gonna see if I can keep this motor in the car a little longer this time..

Come race me Al

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NIIIIIIIIIICE John! If you have the stock tires letting to much air out won't help due to the stiff sidewalls. I tried it and traction was worse. Best thing I found was warm them up a bit and hope the track has good traction. Last time I went to the track it seemed to get better as more rubber got laid down and the temps cooled a little bit. Still had some spin off the line but not as much. Sure you wouldn't want to bring the car out of retirement next year in Colorado?

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posted 09-20-2001 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     send a private message to CJ   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CJ
LOL!!!


quote:
BTW the car gets retired in 4 weeks, no one wants to race up here or will come up.

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so what's with the RETIRED thing?...... Sure you wouldn't want to bring the car out of retirement next year in Colorado?

Never know what next year will bring!

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posted 09-20-2001 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jd2ksilver     send a private message to jd2ksilver   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by jd2ksilver
Right CJ ,,,,,,,,


BTW, I know there are faster cars out there, not a lot. But I'm not sure the potential for improvement is the same for thiers as mine has. This is a stock tranny, bad tires, slow to respond driver to name a few. All could be improved, lol

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Nice runs JD. Now it's time to come to Texas and run with Mike K.

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Hey Paul,,

I won't be, (and not alot of others either), are going to be close to Mike on the next go around I feel. But I will still run if I can get the car out there. Be good to see everyone again.

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This message has been edited by jd2ksilver on 09-20-2001 at 01:06 PM

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Just a few comments on the above:

1. First, you need to tighten the loose nut behind the steering wheel!

quote:
driver shifting errors
or was that shifty driver errors? lol!

2. Bald tires do not make for slicks, even though they look the same!

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BTW the car gets retired in 4 weeks
Why wait 4 weeks to re-tire? Tire Rack has a sale right now! lol!

3. Leave the car in drive (eliminates operator error!) The computer doesn't fall asleep at the line! lol!

4. Mike K was with you in spirit the whole time!!

5. Reaction times........did you get twenty winks? Take No-Doze before trying this again.

6. Good gas = good idea!!!

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FIRST RUN

SECOND RUN

THIRD RUN

FOURTH RUN

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Thanks Dan,

Wow, I just looked again, very cool my car in the backround, wtg Dan.


BTW,, my car number was 3001

CJ, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, cute,,,,,,,,,,,,,, again,,,,,,,,

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quote:
Originally posted by jd2ksilver:

The first three were test and tune, the fourth was a bracket run. I had to post 14 sec cause no roll bar. Then ran for quick time knowing it would be my last.


I don't mean to sound like an idiot, but I don't understand some of this. What is a bracket run? And what do you mean by 'I had to post a 14 sec cause no roll bar'?

Thanks.

Mike

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Mike.

Bracket racing is a handicapped type of racing to equalize cars with different performance & speed. Also, puts a little more pressure on driver skills not just how much money you spent on making car go fast...

With bracket racing you post an expected ET time before each race (I'll call it a bracket ET). The objective is to beat the other car across the finish line without going under your bracket ET. If you go faster than your bracketed ET you loose unless both drivers go under. Than the closses to the bracket ET wins that race as long as neither driver Red Lighted at starting line.

For example... A stock Prowler posts a bracket ET of 15.0 & a PT Cruiser posts a bracket of 18.0 ET. At the starting line (christmas tree) the PT Cruiser gets a 3 second head start down the strip. If both cars actual ET times were exact & matched their bracket ET they would cross the finish line in a dead heat. However, this is where the reaction time off the line comes into play. A perfect reaction time is .5 seconds for bracket racing. If you leave before the .5 you Red Light (and automatically loose). So, you have to get as close to the .5 reaction & as close as you can to your bracket ET & of course cross the line 1st. This is where the driver skill in reading the starting lights & getting off the line comes into play....

Reaction time is not part of your ET time. So, if you are just running test & tune runs, you could sit at the starting line for 2 seconds & still get a 15.0 ET for the 1/4.

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Thanks Laddie,

Mike
Convertible top cars cannot run on sanctioned drag strips without a roll bar installed if they run faster then 14.0 sec.
So, If I would have posted a 13.1 on my window, which I would have, they would not let me run, cause of no roll bar. So I posted a 14 on the window knowing I would break it big time. I knew it was my last run anyway so I went all out on it. The person in the other lane knew what I was doing and was fine with it. Maybe not real legal but I got my best time of the day,(night by then ,with my neons on,lol).

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Thanks a bunch guys. My education continues!

Mike

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