posted 05-13-2019 03:27 PM                  

The dreaded P0601 code is coming up and I suspect that the dealer will try telling me it is a coincidence that the engine light came on at this time and isn't possibly related to any of the work they performed on the car.

I did let the service writer know before the car was worked on, that I was going to be pissed off if something like this happened shortly after the work was done. It has, and I am.
I guess this is what I get for spending the money for preventative maintenance on my car huh.

What is the latest solution for this problem?
Will the dealer be able to send the PCM to the factory and have it rebuilt?
Has anyone found any reputable source to repair or rebuild these yet?

posted 05-13-2019 05:15 PM                  

Try disconnecting the positive battery cable for 30 minutes and then reconnect. If no help, than internal EEPROM memory chip has been corrupted and PCM needs to be repaired.

Best place to have it repaired is these guys;
http://www.bgperformance.com/

posted 05-13-2019 06:04 PM                  

The dealer is looking into what they can or can't do on their end and I have reached out to a couple of others here on POA on my end as well as made inquiries with folks that sell used Prowler parts in other places.

I'll share what happens for later reference.

posted 05-13-2019 10:19 PM                  

Try this thread ...entitled "computer part 2" http://www.prowleronline.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/024181.html

posted 05-14-2019 12:06 PM                  

Since you paid big bucks to have dealer perform work on your Prowler, you maybe able to persuade them to try re-flashing the PCM at no charge.

It would costs the dealer nothing in hard money (Parts), only soft money in labor.

Chrysler PCM 601 code failures are primarily do to heat that cooks the EEPROM holding firmware. Sometimes EEPROM will just be corrupted rather than an outright total failure, so a re-flash maybe possible.

Having dealer re-flashing PCM is worth a try, if they'll do it at no charge. Use your persuasive skills.

If you go the route of a used PCM, be aware that you will still have to have the dealer enter your cars VIN number and mileage into used PCM for proper operation.

posted 05-14-2019 02:48 PM                  

For now, I am going to give the Dealer a little breathing room. Well, at least until Wednesday afternoon.
They have had the car since last Monday (9 days ago) and although I am anxious to get it safely back home, I don't want to rush them into doing the wrong thing.

I will see what they come up with and suggest the re-flash.

Ed, I understand the theory of "IF you can't fix it with a hammer, it's an Electrical Problem"...To that end, I sort of think it might be an Electrical related problem.

Scott99,
I looked at the BG website last night. I have it book marked in the computer and am giving it some consideration if nothing else happens through the dealer or other avenues I am exploring.

posted 05-14-2019 06:06 PM                  

Prowler ECM rebuilder http://www.ecmdepot.com/contacts.html

$225.00 plus $20.00 shipping and handling Lifetime warranty

5 day turn around. Plug and play as long as it goes back into the car it came from.

NOTE: The above information is what was passed on to me.
The below information is what I cut and pasted from their website.

Auto ECM Electronics
2610 W Marshall Drive, suite #5
Grand Prairie, TX 75051

Phone: 972-988-9922
Fax: 972-602-1141
Toll Free: 1-888-326-1441

Business Hours:
Mon - Fri: 9a.m. - 6p.m. (Closed for Lunch Daily from 12:30 - 1:30 pm)
Saturday: 10a.m. - 2p.m.

R&R Services

Our R&R service process is easy, fast, and reliable. Your engine control module or transmission control module will be rebuilt by our dedicated team of certified technicians and engineers using our industry leading equipment. All of our components are of outstanding quality and tested to last under some of the most extreme conditions. Each unit that comes through will meet OEM standard specifications. All of units are put through numerous rigorous tests to ensure proper functionality and long lasting performance.

All gas domestic and import R & Rs are backed by an unbeatable LIFETIME WARRANTY. Not only is our warranty unbeatable but so is our turnaround time. Our turnaround time on average for R&Rs is 2 to 4 business days.

** Please call to get current turnaround time **

posted 05-15-2019 05:37 PM                  

The only thing they could offer was a name of a company that rebuilds and repairs modules.
AES Modules located at 13720 St Augustine Road Suite 8 -250 Jacksonville, FL 32258. http://www.aesmodules.com/

Phone: 888-241-8133

It appears that this business is about 170 miles North East of Spring Hill Fl. where one of the questionable vendors resides.

posted 05-15-2019 09:36 PM                  

First thing in a repair manual is disconnect battery, last thing is reconnect battery. We all know power surges/spikes create havoc with electronics. ....

http://www.tooldiscounter. com/ItemDisplay.cfm?lookup=KAS295A&source=froogle&kw=KAS295A&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIgJnsoIKf4gIVAozICh17nwuAEAQYAiABEgJE-PD_BwE

posted 05-19-2019 11:22 AM                  

In the past few days, I was also able to acquire an unknown condition used PCM from a wrecked 2000 Prowler. I have sent an inquiry to Auto ECM Electronics in Texas about repairs to the PCM currently in the car.

posted 05-20-2019 05:37 PM                  

As far as B&G are concerned...Reading their website, they also alter several other things in the PCM like fuel, top end speed and a couple other things I wouldn't want changed.
Can they simply correct the P0601 code and leave it at that?

I did send an inquiry to Auto ECM Electronics in Texas over the weekend. As of this moment, I have had no reply.

posted 05-20-2019 07:50 PM                  

I have a spare that is supposed to be good , so that’s what I will do if mine craps out.

Edit... according to prowlerstore :

$ 1,595.00* - and up
Price subject to change without notice
NOT Refundable

*Includes a core charge. You receive a $300.00 refund once we receive your original PCM/ECM back to us.

Choose Option:


Enter Mileage:

Enter 17 digits VIN:
Key: Year/Prices
P = Preprogrammed with VIN and mileage
UP = Un-programmed needs VIN and mileage entered by dealer

posted 05-20-2019 07:58 PM                  

For problems that occur and are covered under this warranty HCA will repair, reset or replace your PCM/TCM we provided you under the warranty conditions within the warranty time period. If a PCM/TCM is not available then a prorated refund will be issued.

Covered under this warranty:
► Circuit chips on the circuit board and solder connections that fail do to wear out - under normal driving conditions with car or truck engine, engine components and electrical system functioning properly as determined by HCA.

posted 05-21-2019 03:04 PM                  

A young Tech may not have ever worked on a SBEC-3 PCM used in the late 1990 and early 2000 years, that has now been superseded with newer "Next Generation" PCM, but it shouldn't matter since procedure is the same for all flashing.

You need to speak with a Dealer Tech who specializes in Flashing. It may not be the Viper Tech.

If Dealer Tech who does flashing says it can't be done (which I doubt), then show him this which applies to all Chrysler products, not just to the ones shown below.....

" There is a way to overwrite a different calibration file after it has been flashed into a Dodge Chrysler PCM ECU.

This can be very handy, say when you have a Mitsubishi Raider or a Jeep commander or Dakota with the same engine and transmission and want to use a salvage PCM ECU but the current calibration has different options programmed into it.

When you download the calibration files from Chrysler TECHAUTHORITY there are three files that are saved in C/USER/USERNAME/APPDATA/LOCAL/TEMP/LOW.

First, I always create a new folder inside the LOW folder and rename it with the calibration number that I want to use and copy and paste all 3 files in to this folder to use as back up for later use.

The reason for this is that the Chrysler J2534 Flash Application will delete these files after a Successful or Unsuccessful flash.

Still leave the three files in their original download location when flashing the PCM ECU.

Now you are going to edit the .plflash file. You will do this by right clicking on the file and use open with and choose NOTE PAD.

An example of the file in your case is called 68001680AA.flpart.

After it opens to NOTE PAD, look at the text. You will see a bunch of entries that have <OldPart>05094063AA</OldPart><Generic>0</Generic></OldPartInfo><OldPartInfo><OldPart>05094063A.

What you want to is change the numbers to the calibration number that you currently have in your PCM ECU or that's on the Sticker label.

An example for your calibration would be <OldPart>R5161322AA</OldPart><Generic>0</Generic></OldPartInfo><OldPartInfo><OldPart>68000263AC
Then save the file and proceed with your re-flash.

You always want to download the calibration file your going use and modify the .flpart file using the old part number which is what was(sticker label) or what is currently programed into the PCM ECU. "

Hope this helps.

posted 05-21-2019 05:11 PM                  

This afternoon after work I stopped by the Emissions station where they also have an office and inquired about the PCM having a different VIN than the vehicle.
I was told this should not be an issue. They may receive a prompt to verify the VIN of the vehicle and confirm it, but otherwise I was told there should not be any issues.
Now all I need to do is put a few more miles and "Drive cycles" on the car and then have the testing done.

posted 05-23-2019 09:54 PM                  

It's like saying, nevermind, that little extra bit of extra performance is not for me.

Scott

posted 05-24-2019 02:49 PM                  

quote:

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Originally posted by Scott99:
Hi Alrtg,
I am also a bit confused by your comments. Why would you go through the process of sending in your pcm and not take full advantage of their (BG) service and experience?

It's like saying, nevermind, that little extra bit of extra performance is not for me.

Scott

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Scott,
That is exactly what I am saying. I like the car the way it came from the factory and have no desire to do anything other than clear the P0601 Code.
I don't want or need any changes to the areas they offer other than clearing the code.

P.S.
There is a chance that neither of the two places I have sent inquiries to, will get my business.
I sent Auto ECM Electronics an inquiry last weekend and have gotten no reply as of the moment.
I sent B&G an inquiry four days ago, and have gotten no reply as of the moment.
I am patient so I will wait another few days and make a second and final attempt to contact both places through their online system. If they can't be bothered to respond, I'll know to look elsewhere.