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MattG

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posted 06-05-2017 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattG     send a private message to MattG   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by MattG
Greetings... New here. 1999 Prowler - new to me. 10k miles. I love it!

Have an issue with my passenger side power door lock. Searched posts - no joy. The passenger side only lock does not work from the key fob, from the drivers side lock switch or from the passenger side door panel switch. What happens is it makes a sound for about 1 second that sounds like a running motor but the lock does not lock/unlock. It can be operated via the mechanical rocker on the passenger's door panel or from the door lock cylinder/key. Power windows and drivers side door lock all work fine.

I have not yet taken it apart but think it is either the lock actuator assembly (stripped gears)? Or maybe a linkage or something that is loose from when the previous owner replaced the door speakers. What are your thoughts? Thanks in advance.

I found what I think is the power door lock actuator assembly at MoparPartsOverstock P/N 04815158 (?) for $113:

https://www.moparpartsoverstock.com/p/Plymouth_1999_Prowler/LATCH-Right-Front-Door/6647412/04815158.html

This message has been edited by MattG on 06-05-2017 at 12:50 PM

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posted 06-05-2017 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1buddyc     send a private message to 1buddyc   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by 1buddyc
That's what you need, if you hear the whirring noise and the lock wont engage/disengage.
The whirring noise is the gear inside the latch/actuator that has stripped.
Good luck with the repair, hope you have small hands...

This message has been edited by 1buddyc on 06-05-2017 at 02:55 PM

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posted 06-06-2017 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattG     send a private message to MattG   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by MattG
Thanks much Buddy. I do have (relatively) small hands but more relevant is available patience... . Helps a lot when you really like what you are working on.

Has anyone ordered from MoparPartsOverstock.com? Always hesitant to give out my credit card number...

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posted 06-06-2017 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for robin     send a private message to robin   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by robin
1 800.428.0517


Welcome to Mopar Parts Overstock, your source for OEM Mopar Parts

Are you planning on calling in the part.
instead of over the web.
I have ordered a few things no problem.

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posted 06-08-2017 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattG     send a private message to MattG   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by MattG
I ended up ordering the actuator assembly from Amazon / MyMoparParts. The price was basically the same as the other place considering the free shipping but the main thing was that MyMoparParts had very high customer satisfaction ratings (96% and ~500 ratings) whereas the other place had about 70% very happy customers and 30% POed...

I'll report back as to how the repair works out.

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posted 07-02-2017 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattG     send a private message to MattG   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by MattG
I finally got around to replacing my door lock actuator assembly which was preventing my power door lock from operating. The symptoms that necessitated this are described in the first post of this thread. I documented the procedure:

Steps for replacing power door lock actuator assembly:

The actuator assembly is also actually the door latch located right at the rear edge of the door. To start with roll the window up and unlock the door.


Summary:
1. Remove interior door latch assembly bezil and door panel.
2. detach all linkage rods from door actuator assemble that you can get to.
3. remove the 3 torx screws from the back edge of the door and move the assembly toward the front of the car.
4. detach the remaining linkage rod and wiring harness
5. reverse the procedure to reinstall.

Detailed procedure: My pictures below are for the passenger side (right) actuator assembly.

Very carefully remove the interior plastic trim bezel around the door opener/manual door lock. Insert a credit card under the back edge and then push in on it hard as you slide it back. I recommend you do this while sitting in the car with the door closed. That way, you can press in on the bezil HARD as you push it back toward the back of the car and not break the little tabs.


It has 4 little plastic tabs on it, 2 top, 2 bottom that are extremely easy to break off. These bezils are hard to find and cost around $50 each – for what would seem to be a $4 piece of plastic.


Remove the door panel assembly: Remove three Phillips screws: 2 long front ones and one short one from inside the armrest cup/grab handle that you pull when you are shutting the door.

Use a stiff putty knife (painters 5-in-1 tool) or similar to pry the bottom and rear of the door panel out. There are four black plastic plugs that hold it in place. Two on the bottom and two on the back edge of the door.

Lift the door panel up and out to get it loose.

If the little double head black plastic plug clips get broken they are readily available at the auto parts store.


Unplug the white wiring harness plug from the window and door lock switch assembly that is mounted on the door panel. You may need a small screwdriver to release the plastic tab which is on the top of the harness plug.

Pull down the black plastic flexible shield that is stuck to the inside of the door sheet metal. This would be a good time for a visual examination of your door speaker to see if it appears to be damaged or otherwise needs replacement.

Continued....

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Continued from previous post...

Now remove three screws from the inside door opener assembly. There is an H clip about 3" x 3" that you will remove that was held in place by two of the above screws. This will allow the door opener assembly to be pulled loose from the interior door sheet metal.


You will need a flashlight to see inside the door to see the linkage connections to the door lock actuator assembly inside the door:

The door lock actuator assembly has 4 linkages that connect to it. The plastic clips on the actuator assembly are color coded:
1) exterior key door lock (orange),
2) outside door handle you lift to open (green),
3) Interior pull to open door release (red)
4) Interior door unlock manual rocker (white)

Release the white, green, orange linkage retainer plastic clips using your fingers or a long screwdriver. The red one is very hard to get to so that it will be later.

Remove the three T30 torx bolts from the rear edge of the door. These hold the door actuator/door latch assembly in place.

Now, pull out on the manual door latch assembly out and move it toward the front of the car to pull the linkage rods forward and move the door actuator assembly to where you can access the red linkage rod clip and small red/orange wires wiring harness plug.

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Release red linkage rod clip. Unplug the electrical connection with the red and orange wire from the door actuator assembly. You will need a small screwdriver to release the plastic retainer clip.

Now install the new door lock actuator assembly.

Reverse the procedure to re-assemble. I had to detach the linkage rod with the red clip on the interior manual door handle end to get it so I could attach the red-clip actuator end. Now plug in the little wiring harness with the red & Orange wires. Then I attached the red and white linkage rods, installed the assembly with the 3 torx xcrews and then connected the green and orange linkage rod/clips. This is the funnest part. ;-)

The de-assembly took about 1 hr and was hard.

The reassemble was even harder and took 2 hours. On the reassembly end once I duct taped a flashlight in place on the interior door sheet metal things went a lot quicker. I used needle nose pliers, long screw drivers and a homemade spring hook (fashioned from a coat hanger) to connect the linkages.

Now reinstall the door panel. First thing is to reconnect the wiring harness with the white connector to the lock/window switch assembly. This would be a good time to make sure the power door lock, manual door lock, inside door release, outside key, door handle and power window are all work properly. (don't ask me how I know this :-)) Next make sure the panel hangs right on the top edge (compare to the other door). Then use a flashlight to ensure the little black plastic plugs are going into the holes in the door sheet metal. Bang the door panel in place with your hand at the location of the 4 black fasteners. Reinstall the 3 screws (2 long at front and one short inside the grab handle on the door panel and finally the install manual door lock assembly bezel.

Good luck. Hope this speeds the process for you.

This message has been edited by MattG on 07-09-2017 at 01:20 PM

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posted 07-03-2017 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garysss     send a private message to garysss   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by garysss
Thanks for taking the time to post instructions and pictures Matt.
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posted 07-03-2017 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for robin     send a private message to robin   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by robin
Great job posting

thank you.
robin

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posted 07-24-2017 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CGD1985     send a private message to CGD1985   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CGD1985
I just did this today. Had the exact same issue. It would be easier if I had smaller hands, but still got it done.
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posted 07-24-2017 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for padroo     send a private message to padroo   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by padroo
I don't remember any of them going bad.

How was your speaker and did you inspect your power window regulator for cracks in the plastic?

The dark color cars are harder to work on especially the doors. I have been in my drivers door three times now and with a black car and a poorly lit garage it is really tough to see especially with old eyes. lol

Thanks for the detailed information, it will be in the archives now for others in the future. Great job of posting.

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posted 07-25-2017 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattG     send a private message to MattG   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by MattG
So now I gotta take BOTH my doors apart to check my power window regularors???? ;-)
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posted 07-25-2017 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for padroo     send a private message to padroo   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by padroo
quote:
Originally posted by MattG:
So now I gotta take BOTH my doors apart to check my power window regularors???? ;-)


No, if they are working OK leave them alone. You know the old saying, "If it ain't broke don't fix it". lol

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