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GRROWL      POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Herndon, VA |
posted 08-25-2002 05:22 PM
    
Let's add to the flap about front flaps. Since it's one of the top-ten most active subjects, I guess that makes it "General Prowler Discussion". I put ceramic pads on GRROWL this weekend and, although that's another story, it did lead to this amazing discovery. The "special custom center cap removal tool" (half a clothespin) works great, but that's another story. This story is the discovery of a NEW, NEVER BEFORE POSTED PROBLEM with the front flaps. No, it's not backing over a speedbump. No, it's not the controversial, "To trim or not to trim". No, it's not, "Trim an inch! No, 2 inches! No, 1-1/2"! It's: THEY DAMAGE THE FENDERS! I figured that since I was working in the area anyway, I'd take off the flaps, clean them up, and sand down the scuffs before putting them back on. But when I took them off, HORROR OF HORRORS, there's about a 3/4" triangle of paint worn off BOTH FENDERS plus an inch along the edge on one side, 2 inches on the other. Here's what's happening, and I'd guess it's universal - only the centers of the flaps are held on tightly by the 3 bolts. The inner edge, which is a 3-dimensional curve, flaps in the breeze/vibration and beats against the fender. Combined with the road grit and sand, it's like a sandblaster. IT'S HORRIBLE! WHAT SHALL WE DO??? Can the end of the world be far behind? -GRROWL P.S. The problem is easy to see without taking off the flaps, just bend in the unsupported inner edge and look at the edge of the fender just below the support bracket (a flashlight helps). |
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YellowFever unregistered Admin Use |
posted 08-25-2002 05:51 PM
Either: A) They never figured once on, anyone would bother to take them off; b) The same guy that designed the roof (my new one new has two holes in it) designed these. Seriously though, perhaps using a buffer (like 2-sided tape) between the flap and the fender might help. Let us all know as I just bought thoes flaps and am holding off installing till I get the top fixed (and know if this problem is universal) ------------------ Driving a car is just transportation, This message has been edited by YellowFever on 08-25-2002 at 05:51 PM |
ALLEY CAT               POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 08-25-2002 07:22 PM
We need a new forum section: TODAY'S SIGN OF THE APOCALYPSE
This message has been edited by ALLEY CAT on 08-27-2002 at 02:34 PM |
cmblockhus POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Citrus Heights CA. |
posted 08-25-2002 07:46 PM
I found the same problem when I install my sew set, with no big adooooo I got out the hot glue gun and glued the damn sides down so far so good, what do you say AC will that meet your approval????????? sure hope so, wouldnt want to have to go on vacation with an unapproved cat. see ya ------------------ |
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ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 08-25-2002 08:05 PM
Curtis - sounds good to me,,,,,road test will provide the answer. This message has been edited by ALLEY CAT on 08-25-2002 at 10:55 PM |
Northern Cat POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Stoney Creek, Ontario, Canada |
posted 08-25-2002 09:48 PM
I think this might work great for the problem...removeable too 3M™ Dual Lock™ Reclosable Fastener SJ-3541 or here http://www.fastenation.com/duallock.tmpl?cart=10303296812260449 ------------------ |
cstall POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Chandler, AZ USA |
posted 08-25-2002 09:57 PM
We need ANOTHER new forum section: 1001 Uuses for Hot Glue on Your Prowler |
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GRROWL POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Herndon, VA |
posted 08-25-2002 10:12 PM
It would take a braver person than me to use hot melt glue on factory paint. After all, that's what we're trying to protect with the mudflaps. -GRROWL |
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ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 08-25-2002 10:59 PM
quote: Curt - BTW, after you left last night, MADMAX mentioned that the drawing you designed for the MADMAX CENTER CAP HOT GLUE TREATMENT SYSTEM, was drawn wrong and could possibly cause problems if done that way. You need to get with him and correct the drawing. |
ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 08-25-2002 11:00 PM
I am not getting the clear picture. Is it the paint on the underside of the fender on the inner portion of the fender (toward the car) or the outside of the fender toward the car? I don't see how the mud flap can cause the paint to get rubbed off on the finished side of the fender and if the paint is getting rubbed off the underside and is not visible with the mud flap in place, what is the difference? We don't have to worry about it rusting out over time. I am not planning on taking off the flaps. I am not trying to start an arguement but I don't understand the concern if it is hidden by the flap. Enlighten me if that is not a proper summation. I am off to look at the fenders. |
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cmblockhus POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Citrus Heights CA. |
posted 08-25-2002 11:17 PM
dont know bout anyone else but the paint on the outer edge of my fenders was rubbed off by the flaps being loose and constantly going over speed bumps I have to go over a few twice a day in and out from home. as for the hot glue I did the inside of the flap to the inner side of the fender you cant see it at all and then put a small bead accross the top to the inner again. used touch paint on the edge of the fender looks ok for a dailey driver, no pun I love my cat but drive her every day and gets lots of use thanks AC for the ok! ------------------ |
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ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 08-26-2002 02:14 AM
I looked at mine. I think they are still okay at 27,000 miles. Luckily I have a pretty good layer of dirt protecting the inside of the fender. |
Tarzan POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Livermore, CA |
posted 08-26-2002 11:08 AM
I got tired of seeing water and mud dripping down the visible side of the front flaps (caused by water & mud being flung up on the inside of the fender and making its way down the interface between the mud flap and the fender), so I did something similar to what Curtis did. I took off the flaps, cleaned them up, as well as the inside of the fenders, then reattached them. Then, I put a bead of silicone RTV along the top edge of the flap to prevent the water & mud from getting down there. This keeps the visible side of the mud flaps clean, AND stopps the rubbing between the mud flap and the fender (if we care about the paint on the inside of the fender). Tarzan |
alee Prowler Enthusiast From:Fremont, Ca |
posted 08-26-2002 12:01 PM
ok I was looking into getting these to protect agaisnt rocks, but now I'm thinking twice about them... I dont want them if they are going to damage another part |
Marty Usher POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:San Antonio, Texas, United States |
posted 08-26-2002 12:16 PM
alee - my opinion is get the mud flaps. You will get MANY, MANY rock chips on your side panels and doors if you do not. They really show up on the dark colors like yours. (mine is black) You may want to look at protecting the fender edges, but without the flaps the side of your car will be dinged soon. Marty ------------------  Driving my Dream |
Randy Cobb POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Greensboro, NC |
posted 08-26-2002 01:28 PM
ALEE, Marty is right. I just got my yellow kat (7/12/02) and found out quickly that mud flaps are a neccessity. Everytime I drove mine I picked up something with the tires and it scattered over the sides, rear fenders &/or back bumpers. I parked my kat for 3 days until the flaps came in. Listen to the experience owners like Marty. They know which mods are necessities and which are luxuries and are most helpful with this advice. |
Black Tie 161 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:MD, USA |
posted 08-26-2002 02:04 PM
1) Front flaps are a MUST HAVE> 2) I hot glued all over the ENTIRE back of each center cap clip, essentially tripling the thickness of the clip that way. I can take them off and on all day with (not a clothespin, but...) a screwdriver wrapped in a cloth inserted into the removal slot and gently twisted. 3) My front flaps will never come off as long as I can help it, so I will pretend the paint is just fine... |
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alee Prowler Enthusiast From:Fremont, Ca |
posted 08-26-2002 02:32 PM
Convinced me.... DO I just go to a local dealer to pick them up? or is there a place online? or in Fremont area? |
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Black Tie 161 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:MD, USA |
posted 08-26-2002 02:55 PM
If mine didn't already have them on, the dealer would have had to order them. They are Mopar parts. Good luck! |
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Randy Cobb POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Greensboro, NC |
posted 08-26-2002 03:19 PM
alee: Post in the Classifieds section on POA that you want some. If I remember correctly a couple of the members had some extras still in the box for sale. If not, you can go to the vendor link on POA for RealRod or CarNuts and order. Good luck! |
WildCat POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:North Louisville, Indiana, USA |
posted 08-26-2002 03:31 PM
The fenders are plastic. If it rubs the paint off under the flaps it will not hurt anything. My fenders are custom painted and not yellow on the edges. I have not seen any rubbing of the purple on the edge, which would show the factory yellow under it. For those without them, DO NOT THINK THEY WILL DO MORE HARM THAN GOOD. So it rubs paint off under them...BIG DEAL ------------------
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cmblockhus POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Citrus Heights CA. |
posted 08-26-2002 10:37 PM
alee sent you an e-mail curtis |
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cmblockhus POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Citrus Heights CA. |
posted 08-26-2002 10:41 PM
WOW: what a week, meet three new owners this week, buy now you have all meet Alee, and I meet a guy in Santa Rosa today at the dealer while haveing the cat serviced that has a gold and driving a candy red, his name is Michael, gave him the web address hope he finds his way here and meet a new couple from so cal from e-bay with a candy see ya ------------------ |
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Gary C POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:San Diego Area |
posted 08-26-2002 11:01 PM
Just take all the fenders off, hey look, No Worries.....  ------------------  |
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GRROWL POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Herndon, VA |
posted 08-26-2002 11:29 PM
Gary C, Or, just leave them on and eventually they'll wear away on their own. -GRROWL |
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