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DannyA

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posted 01-16-2001 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DannyA     send a private message to DannyA   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by DannyA
On the way back to Denton after the DFW POA meeting sat. night, My Check Engine Soon lite came on. The transmission went into Limp-in mode, but got car home. I had remembered reading the post on "Transmission Problems", so I looked it up and did a printout. On monday, had my auto shop in Denton check codes. Called Neal {Prowler Tech at Midpark in Dallas) and talked over problem with him. Could do one of two things, have car picked up and taken to dealership or buy input transmission sensor and put it in local. I chose the 2nd. Car seems to be fine. Cost about $45.00 for part and labor. Will take car and have Neal check it out in a few weeks. A big THANKS TO ALL

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posted 01-16-2001 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dpena     send a private message to dpena   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by dpena
DannyA,

I have just experianced the same thing. My symptom has prolonged for awhile though. My engine would begin to misfire at about 70 miles per hour and as I decreased my speed. The misfire symptoms would go away.

My tranny finally took a dump Sunday night. I went to a Sunday brunch with the Prowler group and started to experiance mid frequency knocking sounds on my floor panel on the drivers side. Later the knocking began to be felt on my shifting knob.

It began Sunday morning and ended Sunday evening. It ended by 1st gear taking for ever to shift to second while just cruising it from idle. The shift from D to N in automatic mode would engage very, very rough. I then stopped the car and went back to check for tranny oil levels or to see if the tranny oil was black. Tranny oil was fine and could not detect any problems. The fan would come on and off. I then got back on it and drove off but this would not be my normal drive home.

First gear took for ever to shift to second and when it did, it shifted very, very hard. I then gave it some more gas and all of a sudden, my check engine light comes on in the dash and my tranny seemed to have disengaged for a few seconds and then went to second gear real hard. I then realized something was wrong because my tranny would not shift to any gear other than 2nd. I then remembered my last tech session saying that if ever the tranny runs into trouble, it will go into safe mode which puts it into 2nd gear until serviced.

I will find out tomorrow what happened to my tranny. Has anyone out there beefed up their tranny with any other tranny? If so, can you let me know. Now would be the time to consider a different tranny if it has to be overhauled.

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Dan, old buddy, do you think the neutral drops had anything to do with it?

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OH NO! Just when I thought the tranny strong enough

Too bad Dan-Hope its an easy fix.

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posted 01-17-2001 02:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dpena     send a private message to dpena   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by dpena
Gary,

You are a MAN of integrity! Good Guy!

Will find out today when Harry Sands comes down with his Prowler truck to tow it off.

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posted 01-17-2001 02:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dpena     send a private message to dpena   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by dpena
butchcee,

Not bad news at all..... This is good info that lets us know how much beating these trannies can take. We can speculate all year long how strong these trannies are but would never know until someone broke one.

I hope I'm the first one ...

I'm excited ... more to come!!

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HEY GUY'S WHAT'S UP WITH THIS SENSOR FOR TRANNY, IS IT SOMETHING CHRYSLER IS AWARE OF AND JUST UPGRADING ALL PROWLER'S OR IS IT WAIT TILL YOU HAVE AN EMBARRASSING PROBLEM!!!!
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Dan-I agree that taking it to the limits is a good thing, but too bad you were the test subject. Like why couldn't it happen to the garbageman?!!! Keep us posted on what crapped out-but of course you will!

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This message has been edited by butchcee on 01-17-2001 at 08:44 AM

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Dan, I to had the rough shift from P to D. If the problem with your car is the imput sensor to the transmission let us know. I am thinking of buying a spare sensor to take with me on trips. The problem with your car sounds a lot like mine, hope thats all it is.

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posted 01-17-2001 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dpena     send a private message to dpena   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by dpena
EXTRA, EXTRA, READ ALL ABOUT IT!

Reading this right off my repair copy!

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Customer concern:
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Customer states check engine light is on, felt like transmission was stuck in second gear.

Cause:
Input speed sensor fault. Verified customer concern. Scanned with DRB3 and found multiple diagnostic trouble codes. Traced to input speed sensor with intermittent fault. Replaced sensor, cleared code and road tested to verify repair.
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Got to tell you my car feels GGGGRRRRREEEEEAAAAATTTTTT!!!!

I have had a speed sensor problem ever since I bought my kitty. I can absolutely tell the difference now. The new speed sensor will change the gears right before redline. The old speed sensor would always allow 1st gear to go into red rpm zone sending my PCM computer into limp mode. I would then continue punching it furthure loosing horsepower. I was coming back on the freeway home and punched it several times and got to tell you I was missing alot of fun. The shifts are more accurate now and don't feel my car going into limp mode any more or safe mode. Before I think I would always go into limp mode causing me to loose horsepower ever time.

Where did Prowler Man and John Davies go?

butchcee,

I think the tranny is strong enough because got to tell you, I beat the you know what out of it.

Once again, a happy camper here! Like I always say .... GOD IS GOOD BABY!!

Later....

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Tomorrow, I am buying a spare input sensor.


Just got in my new set of stainless mufflers, on tomorrow.
Gear set on the way.


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posted 01-18-2001 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butchcee     send a private message to butchcee   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by butchcee
Good news Dan!

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Your welcome.

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Here is a repost of my Limp-in explanation

The Prowler Automatic Transmission is a Electronic Controlled Transaxle

Here is something you should know:

If the 42LE four-speed automatic transaxle has a malfunction, it may default to Limp-in mode: Second Gear, Reverse, Park and Neutral. Limp-in may happen when the computer has detected a fault in the transmission, it could be an electrical or mechanical fault. If this ever happens to you, find a safe place to pull over and then cycle the key off, then start it up again. If it is an intermittent problem this may take it out of limp in mode so you can drive it normally. You should secure the park brake, check the trans. fluid level and check for leaks before driving it. Take it to your dealer because a DTC (diagnostic trouble code) has been set. Remember that after 255 key cycles the code goes away if it was intermittent and it did not reoccur. The (Service Engine Soon) lamp might even come on. If it clunks, slips or grinds have it towed.

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Mike, thanks for posting the info. I'm having a problem with my Prowler trans that possibly you can explain. Gary is having the same problem. I didn't notice it until I put in the Prowler Pro gear set.The manual says that the converter will lock up in 3rd and 4th. At WOT, the tranny shifts hard to 3rd, but then will try to go into lockup too early, killing the acceleration. Thats what it feels like. Do you know if there is a wire on the TCM that can be switched ( as in-put a switch on the wire) from the inside to delay lockup? Do you think the shifting was changed because of the different input and output shaft speeds that the tranny now has with the different gearset? Any insite will be appreciated-Thanks

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Al,

Is it any better if you have the shifter in 3 vs. D

What gear ratio do you have now vs. before?
Is this only happening to Prowlers with the aftermarket gears?

There is not a wire I can think of to put a switch on.
The brake input will cancel lock-up, but I don't recommend putting a switch on that.

I wonder if there are any software updates that could possibly resolve an issue like this. The dealer can update the TCM with the latest code, I am not able to check the service bulletins like I used to be able to.

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My 99 with the gears does it 95% of the time and the 00(stock) does it very time.

I think the rear end ratio is 4.19(with gears) from a 3.89 stock.

We are losing precious and expensive time, 3/10-4/10's of a second which is huge in the drag racing.

Thanks PTMike

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Mike-we pick up 700 rpm in top gear at the same speed. Some how, I remember 4.56 for the new ratio. The trans acts the same in both modes-auto, and autostick. I didn't notice it before I changed the gearset. Mike, my car is a 2k, made in May. I think it's got the update, as it shifted hard before the gearset installation. I guess I'll give it another try and tap the brakes to unhook the converter. If this works, I'll look at switching the line pressure sensor that the tranny reads off. Got a wire color and location?

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I do not work at the dealer anymore to access manuals. I remember in Prowler training class the discussion of the lock-up and how it lowers heat build up. The software engineers may have decided to make it shift to lock up to reduce heat build up. When it is not in lock-up there is slippage in the torque converter that causes heat.

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I asked Dean what the gear ratio is a few months ago. I heard 4:96. Maybe a bad phone line, maybe 4:56? sort of sound a like.

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But thats including the overdrive in high gear Dan!

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Ok!

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I think night prowler is correct. Had lundh with Dean last week and I heard 496 also. I'll be talking to him in the next few days and will try to remember to ask him.

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