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Dick Henry


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posted 01-06-2024 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dick Henry     send a private message to Dick Henry   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Dick Henry
This is an interesting explanation of how to become energy independent. What to expect as far as cost, pros & cons. This guy explained his experience using solar power over the last year. He lives in the northeast. Very interesting video.
http://youtu.be/UJeSWbR6W04?si=1o2Hvti6TCMo5q8d
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Excellent video until he got to the net payoff portion. Holy crap he uses $9,663 dollars worth of electricity per year. What the hell? My total electricity bill for 2023 was $1,633. For a $90,000 system my break event point would be over 55 years. Even if you factor in gas for our cars we donít spend more than $200 month for gas. And a luxury EV would be would be an additional expense on top of the solar system. I like driving a luxury car as my daily driver. So sue me.

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You can't take it with you Rich!!! Tap into you mad money account. lol
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I remember years ago some visionary or dreamer said with many cars setting in their garage being charged they could connect to the grid and feed power back into the grid to make up for power shortages. Good video, I thought maybe he lived in California where they get abundant sunshine. He said New Jersey and that surprised me. I have had a whole house generator since 2009. With power outages we loose power for ten seconds, then life goes on as normal. Neighbors hatred being in the dark and seeing our lights on.
Now they have generators also.

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We had solar panels installed back 2017. A 10kw system after federal, state and local rebates was $17k. We expected to reach ROI in 12 years, system warranted for 25 years. But we actually reached ROI in 6 years! I make just slightly more then I use and the rest is sold to the utility.

SREC credits have paid us over $3k in the 6 years. The price fluctuates so itís hard to forecast.
But right now I have no bill and receive $50+/- every month.

We have a propane whole house generator for emergencies. Heat and cooking are propane.

My only regret is not going 10% larger but never thought about an EV 6years ago.

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That is super cool Gary. We put a Generac in about 3 years ago. Solar, I guess I could investigate but it was cost prohibitive a few years back for us. Like 35 grand. The generator is Super nice when power goes out. Solar, I imagine would be as well.

John

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quote:
Originally posted by Stray Cat:
That is super cool Gary. We put a Generac in about 3 years ago. Solar, I guess I could investigate but it was cost prohibitive a few years back for us. Like 35 grand. The generator is Super nice when power goes out. Solar, I imagine would be as well.

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Without a battery backup the solar goes out when the grid goes down. Batteries were just too costly. But the generator was a year old and I got it for $800. It's only 8kw, small for our house but I ran all necessary circuits to a sub-panel and the generator feeds that. I spent about $600-700 in materials to install it so pretty cheap overall.

That grid was $28k in 2017. But the rebates were awesome, about 40%
I don't think I would have done it if it was roof mount, my house doesn't sit the right way for that anyhow.

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I agree with Rich. I guess our electric bills in Georgia are much less than New Jersey. Our ROI would be to long to justify the purchase. I have a friend that was all excited about doing this and had someone come out and give him a written estimate. It was no way a money saver that he was told it would be. Maybe the N.J. guy lives in a 10,000 sq/ft house, and feels guilty about his carbon footprint and spent some pocket change to make himself feel better. ( Al Gore)
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My Generac can run the entire house. It's pretty cool when power goes out. I can't remember how big it is but it cost us quite a bit to have installed - it runs everything including 3 fridges/Freezers, heat, AC, and Shelley's Blow Dryer. Very Important! 3 floors and 6,000 square feet. It's amazing and would not be without one now.

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Solar is good until the hail storm comes:
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/hailstorm-destroys-massive-solar-farm-sparking-fears-of-chemical-contamination
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In August I will have had my Kohler 22,000 kw generator 10 years. It was -9F one cold winter night, we lost power and it didn't start. Don't know why, power was out for about 1.5 hours. It started right up the next morning.
I wanted solar, my wife didn't like the idea, enough said.
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We have been here over 20 years and our power has never gone out. Some of the neighbors a few doors up did lose theirs, but I don't recall how long it lasted. I guess we have been lucky. Most storms stay down near the Ohio river or split off and go north of us. We are about 10 miles north of the river.
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Not only have we had power outages (never for more than a few hours), but our both current and previous home have both been struck by lightning. Neither time was it a direct hit, they called it ground lightning. Hits nearby and travels through the ground. In both cases we lost TVís and other electronics. Had to have some power outlets replaced. Insurance. Overs most of the expense. In one instance it was a miracle the thermostat didnít case fire. The wall behind it was charred. During one of those same occasions a house about a mile away was struck and burned to the ground.
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Northwest Indiana will be home to largest solar farm in U.S., covering 13,000 acres
http://www.indystar.com/story/news/environment/2021/11/09/indiana-solar-panel-farm-largest-united-states-doral-renewables-energy-mammoth-starke-county/8529759002/

We have a lot of days here in NW Indiana where it is cloudy and overcast, I hope thes guy know what they are doing.

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http://www.msn.com/en-au/weather/topstories/texas-storms-destroy-swaths-of-solar-panels-sparking-concern/ar-BB1lhTBp


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I installed a solar ground unit. If you go solar i suggest you buy the unit outright instead of the 0 down and monthly payments. If you buy the unit outright you get all the tax right offs, and selling the electricity back to the electric company in the form of credits. you don't get that if the solar company finances your unit, they get everything . Plus it takes 25 years to pay off and break even.
We average 300 days of sunlight which makes a big difference on what your unit produces. My time line for break even on my unit will be 6-8 years. Action Solar out of Utah price after negotiations was $45,600 installed, 1/2 half down to start and 1/2 when installed and running . Plus all panels made in USA not China. 25 year guarantee on the panels.
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My solar unit produces 14kw. the tax rebate is $24,000 .

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