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Gort
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posted 07-21-2015 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gort     send a private message to Gort   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Gort
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Originally posted by MDProwler:
The only thing I see the bumper doing that would be beneficial would be to trigger the airbag a millisecond sooner which could make all the difference.

As we cannot tell from those views whether it went off or not, it doesn’t appear there is any damage in the area of the sensors. If the impact sheared off the wheel but did little to slow the vehicle it is entirely possible that the airbag did not activate.

The point of impact is clearly in the Prowlers travel lane. Wonder why he didn’t move right to the shoulder to avoid the oncoming car. The pavement is certainly wide enough. Hope he recovers.


If you had two trash cans full of trash wired to the front end of a prowler that hit something head on it would have to absorb some of the impact,it would be impossible to say that had zero effect. It would not be logical to believe otherwise. A 6 inch I beam or a trash can could both be measured to get a true number as a statistical result on the impact.

As far as cosmetically speaking I think the poll numbers would be close as to which looked the best.Tennessee has bumper laws. Not having any bumpers at all would be a great opportunity for a cop to look over your car and check it out ,if you have Shania Twain in the drivers seat it is almost a sure thing a cop would want to pull the car over. In my case ...some old fart like myself, would not tempt a cop very much.

This message has been edited by Gort on 07-21-2015 at 08:20 AM

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Originally posted by Gort:
If you had two trash cans full of trash wired to the front end of a prowler that hit something head on it would have to absorb some of the impact,it would be impossible to say that had zero effect. It would not be logical to believe otherwise. A 6 inch I beam or a trash can could both be measured to get a true number as a statistical result on the impact.

As far as cosmetically speaking I think the poll numbers would be close as to which looked the best.Tennessee has bumper laws. Not having any bumpers at all would be a great opportunity for a cop to look over your car and check it out ,if you have Shania Twain in the drivers seat it is almost a sure thing a cop would want to pull the car over. In my case ...some old fart like myself, would not tempt a cop very much.



There is still hope for you Gort, the cop could be some young babe and after seeing your Prowler thinking she could stop you if you had no bumpers and her real intention is to wrap her hands around your money. Lol

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Originally posted by padroo:

There is still hope for you Gort, the cop could be some young babe and after seeing your Prowler thinking she could stop you if you had no bumpers and her real intention is to wrap her hands around your money. Lol

I volunteer for some police brutality like that !!

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posted 07-21-2015 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     send a private message to CJ   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CJ
Terrible tragedy.
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Airbags deployed



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Originally posted by NullMind:
I volunteer for some police brutality like that !!

I might be a condo cowboy


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/senior-citizens-the-new-face-of-aids/

This message has been edited by Gort on 07-21-2015 at 10:32 AM

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Originally posted by Gort:
I might be a condo cowboy


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/senior-citizens-the-new-face-of-aids/


Senior citizens getting AIDS is because they heard the disease might kill you in 30 years, so. 75 year old thinks "cool, that means I'll live till 105 !!"

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Anyway, sorry for us taking this off topic, anybody knows any updated news on this chap ? If he still in ICU .. Or ?
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.....sad news, seems lucky the car stayed on its feet

...the drivers name isn't familiar with me either, but so help me, the car looks very familiar...it has quite a few mods and the. Carlini bumper covers are most unusual, someone here will know the car, or possibly owned it at one time

.....scary reminder how fragile life is

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...I also agree, probably a distracted or inexperienced 16 year old driver, but I have to feel sympathy for him also, certainly a life altering experience for a young kid whether he realizes it yet or not

... I know I wasn't always the most responsible driver at that age, no cell phone distractions then but hi speed was always my drug of choice and sure death just a whisper away...hope all turns out as good as it possibly can for all parties involved

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I have driven that road several times and there is nothing unusually dangerous about it. The ford was traveling on the upgrade but it's not a severe one. The pavement is well maintained with breakdown lanes on both sides. Although there are several curves, none are sharp or quick. RV's are common on this route because it is the road to Zion National Park.

Lights On For Safety!

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I drive a motor coach and usually drive four to five miles over the speed limit, yet there are idiots that feel they always have to get around a motor home or tractor trailer. It is sometimes scary; however, I am not going to pull off the road with a 350K coach to let someone get by me These kids were "IDIOTS."
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This is an issue with someone not paying attention to a valid passing situation, that being the 16 year old, and or the RV not pulling over possibly to let people get by. I have been on the road many times where a motor home, or some other form of camper, is driving like 55 or 60 and not having the courtesy to pull over once in a while to let other people pass.

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Originally posted by Gort:
If you had two trash cans full of trash wired to the front end of a prowler that hit something head on it would have to absorb some of the impact,it would be impossible to say that had zero effect. It would not be logical to believe otherwise. A 6 inch I beam or a trash can could both be measured to get a true number as a statistical result on the impact.

Gort, I will amend my statement about the front bumpers making no difference in a crash. They will help a little but not much. I think too many people are concerned about the front bumpers and not about the back ones. Many here have put rear belly pans on their cars and have no bumper protection at all for the rear of the car. And the gas tank is back there! It's true, I have removed the front bumpers for cosmetic purposes but I feel that I have a good chance of avoiding something in front of me. That's not the case with cars behind you that you have NO control over. In the few accidents that I have had in past years, I have been rear ended by another car in all of them. That is why I still have the rear bumpers in place and refuse to go with a rear belly pan, although they do look good, they offer 0 protection for my Kat and me. JMO.

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There is almost always someone that feels the need to be ahead of anyone they are behind.

I imagine there are areas that that a minimum speed may be posted along with a speed limit, but as far as I know, there is no law saying one must drive at the posted limit.

Here in Maryland, if someone drives 15 mph or more under the posted limit, they could be cited for impeding the normal flow of traffic but at the speeds folks drive around here, there is virtually no chance of that happening.

If anyone ever suggests I am not driving fast enough when I am doing the posted limit, I would simply ask them to clarify just how much over the posted limit should I drive on their road.

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Tim Chard is one of my customers. He first called me in December of last year to order a front turn signal assembly. Like I usually do with new customers I asked him about his Prowler and he indicated he had not had it very long. He called me again in January of this year to order a set of the Viper side panels. I told him that I did not have many Utah customers and he said he did not see many Prowlers around. I know Tim is surrounded by many of his law enforcement family members as they are a very close group. I spent a few years working as a police officer myself in my earlier years. Right now Tim needs all our thoughts and prayers. Hopefully we will see him driving a new Prowler in the near future.

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A lot of damage on the Taurus. It must have almost T boned the prowler.




I agree with you. Beach.

I'm impressed if all that damage came from hitting the prowler.

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What a nasty crash! I pray all involved make a full recovery.......a car can always be replaced....very sad.
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I don't like following anything big in front of me. If I can't pass I usually drop back a ways. I just like to be able to see what is up ahead. A big truck or motor home may straddle a piece of 4 x 4 on the highway but that is not an option with a Prowler.
If you can't see up ahead or if you can't drop back far enough you will eat that 4 x 4. I don't have a problem if they are going the speed limit or close to it.
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I just got off the phone with Tim. He is still in the hospital, of course. He could use some more prayers.
He and his wife were taking a drive to celebrate the fact that he could now get around without his walker, after having knee surgery. His knee is now screwed up pretty badly, along with a broken pelvis, some internal injuries.
His wife needed surgery on her hand. She had brain surgery about 6 months ago. He has a way to go before he will get out of the hospital.
He said the kid pulled out and tried to pass and then decided he couldn't make it so he hit his brakes and the rear end of the Taurus came around and hit the Prowler in the driver's side. The pictures of the skid marks might be misleading, I don't know the answer to that.
I told him to get on POA and I would ask for some prayers for him.
He was not retired but figures he will probably be retired after this. The kid's family posted pictures on Facebook about the accident and the kid's scuff and marks but didn't mention Tim or his wife. Nice.
He said he has only owned his Prowler for about 10 months and he was fixing it all up to be a show car. Looks to be a total loss so he can start anew when he feels better.
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posted 07-24-2015 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
Note that there is no red paint on the front of the Taurus. I don't see a guard rail so I don't know what would have caused the front end damage.
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That's encouraging that he is able to take a phone call. Thank God.
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"I told him to get on POA and I would ask for some prayers for him."

Tim.....Hoping your recovery goes smoothly, and you will be up and around soon!

You are in our thoughts and prayers

Also, you are a lucky guy to make it through that type of accident.....be sure to keep that rabbit's foot on you when you purchase your next Prowler

AC

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Note that there is no red paint on the front of the Taurus. I don't see a guard rail so I don't know what would have caused the front end damage.

Thank you ed for the update, we will be pulling for him.

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Note that there is no red paint on the front of the Taurus. I don't see a guard rail so I don't know what would have caused the front end damage.

There are lots of boulders along that road, theTaurus could have spun into one.

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Is the prowler purple or candy? The bumper skin is missing from the taurus. Probably in pieces on the shoulder somewhere. That would have taken most of the paint transfer. But ya, you would think you would see some. Purple wouldn't show up as much on a dark car.

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