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elambeth - with State Farm, buy a cheap, term life ins. policy,,,you'll qualify for multi-line discount at least.

I'm wondering about the State Farm collector car insurance. My agent said they didn't have any such thing???,,,,about four years ago.

If you don't mind me asking Elambeth,,,how much per year for $10,000 agreed value on the off-road ride? Any restrictions? I'll understand if you don't reply with figures.

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The Prowler used car price, compare to other models (even SSRs)
is very high.
The average used car price for a 2001 Plymouth Prowler is in the biggest Side", www.autotrader.com ,
is $ 36700.- this week. (Thats a lot more what I payed for, 3 years ago)

This message has been edited by condor on 01-29-2006 at 02:08 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by ALLEY CAT:
elambeth - with State Farm, buy a cheap, term life ins. policy,,,you'll qualify for multi-line discount at least.

I'm wondering about the State Farm collector car insurance. My agent said they didn't have any such thing???,,,,about four years ago.

If you don't mind me asking Elambeth,,,how much per year for $10,000 agreed value on the off-road ride? Any restrictions? I'll understand if you don't reply with figures.



My state farm agent said they DO have collector car insurance for cars over 25 years old.
I'm surprised to hear about Hagarty not insuring your daily driver. 2 years ago they agreed to an agreed value of $150K on my 97 Prowler and said I could also insure my other vehicles with them as well. I couldn't afford the $2K Prowler premium so I passed.
I have NEVER known an insurance agent to try to get a good driving record driver *myself* to take their insurance elsewhere, but ever since I got the Prowler, my State Farm agent has tried getting me to take that insurance elsewhere. I have had my insurance with them on my vehicles and house for over 10 years, therefore falling into their company's policy of "guaranteed renewal*, much to their chigrin. I plan on transferring the Prowler to Grundy shortly for an agreed value of (at least) $75K. I'm told that will provide for about a $500 per year premium. It costs me about $900 per year now at State Farm and would only net me about $25K on a total loss.
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Mickey, wake up and smell the coffee. They told ALLEY CAT they do not offer that coverage. You have seen him, talked to him. Would you want to insure someone like that!!!! lol
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Would you want to insure someone like that!!!!

Ed - I've been insured with State Farm for 43 continuos years...........autos, homes, and life. Same agent for 31 years,,,,he wouldn't dare, lol.

BTW - my first auto policy = $23.00 for six months of liability insurance on a 1950 Olds. I now work with a young guy who pays $188 per month!

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Gentleman, and ladies. I was at Barrett-Jackson this year and have been for the past two years. I have been in the car hobby for many years same as many of you. The high dollar cars at any of the auctions, e-bay, and in your local paper are mostly Classic's. What constitutes a classic, and causes it to be so valuable. Old?? Performance?? Limited Production?? YES, all of those things along with "timeless beauty" and mostly DESIRE. In my humble opinion we are the makers of our own destiny. Most everyone posting on this site feels very strongly about the HIGH VALUE of their car. So do the people selling the high priced cars you hear about that sold somewhere yesterday or last week or last year. If you want your car to be more Valuable....then make it more valuable. We all can do that.
Example: Every time I drive my Prowler at least one person asks "how much is a car like that?" My response is $125, 000.00 This is not stated to brag to them. I explain that it was a limited production tribute to "the American Hot Rod". I try and give them other info if they seem interested. I am very open to their questions. As stated above my statement was $125, 000, and that is exactly what it would require to take my name off of the title. If some one asks a different question such as "how much did it cost", I answer with, "Well, you can not purchase one for what I paid for this one, but I can tell you it is a great investment". Statements by us owners such as these and indicating to anyone who is inquisitive, that it would require $100 plus to get your Prowler, is in my opinion how you increase it's value. EVERYTHING is relative. Everything is a state of mind. Express your state of mind!!
Just look at real estate. Someone in a neighbor hood decides to put their home on the market for $300,000.00, and suddenly every home in the area is now worth $300 plus. It happens everyday. High priced cars began the same way. Change your thought process. Most everyone here does not care to sell their car now, anyway. Right??? Change your thought process. Let people know that your car is worth $100,000.00. AND soon it will be that and more, and More, and MORE!! This car has everything in the world going in it's favor to be an expensive classic...except us as owners. Change your thought process... Throw your chest out and be proud to be one of the very few people in the entire WORLD to own this classic automobile!!!! You smile now each time you drive it and in a few years you will be smiling all the way to the bank. Okay???

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I like your way of thinking.... i'm in !

I always say ...

"I'm one of the lucky few Canadians that own one"

This message has been edited by halicat on 02-02-2006 at 07:51 PM

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Good Post Top Kat!!!!!!
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Good Post Top Kat!!!!!!

Couldn't agree more!

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TopKat, good post. Do you want to buy one or both of mine? lol
They look like they are worth a lot more than they are bringing, that is for sure.
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Thanks Guys..... just spread the word and BELIEVE IT!!
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The people buying the cars of the 50's, 60's and 70's are many times the ones who were little kids and never got to buy one new.

I guarantee you that when the kids today grow up and make $$$$$, they too will be looking for cars that were "Hot" when they were little. The Prowler gets more attention than anything I have ever driven. The kids and the Elderly seem to be especially drawn to them. I remember a friend of mine followed me to Cincy for a car show one evening, I was in the Prowler and he was in a 1967 Camaro Convertible..... he said; " Everyone we passed looked at you like you just dropped out of the sky." Of course that's because it is Orange......

Honestly, that's why I give a little Prowler Matchbox to the kids or a Prowler Pen when they say ; " Nice car Mister". Someday, they will set the price.

I am driving the Prowler. It is fun. It won't sit in my Garage and won't be perfect when I enter a rest home....

And it is insured through Hagerty for an agreed value of 45K and the trailer is insured for 5K. Cost me $1000 per year.

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True automotive enthusiast's own a specific car because they love it; not for the hopes of what the value or investment return will be. If it increases in value in the future, GREAT! Otherwise, it is just naive thinking!!

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from now on i am going to use the $125K number....
but i would be willing to part with it for $110K

quote:
Originally posted by Top Kat:
Gentleman, and ladies. I was at Barrett-Jackson this year and have been for the past two years. I have been in the car hobby for many years same as many of you. The high dollar cars at any of the auctions, e-bay, and in your local paper are mostly Classic's. What constitutes a classic, and causes it to be so valuable. Old?? Performance?? Limited Production?? YES, all of those things along with "timeless beauty" and mostly DESIRE. In my humble opinion we are the makers of our own destiny. Most everyone posting on this site feels very strongly about the HIGH VALUE of their car. So do the people selling the high priced cars you hear about that sold somewhere yesterday or last week or last year. If you want your car to be more Valuable....then make it more valuable. We all can do that.
Example: Every time I drive my Prowler at least one person asks "how much is a car like that?" My response is $125, 000.00 This is not stated to brag to them. I explain that it was a limited production tribute to "the American Hot Rod". I try and give them other info if they seem interested. I am very open to their questions. As stated above my statement was $125, 000, and that is exactly what it would require to take my name off of the title. If some one asks a different question such as "how much did it cost", I answer with, "Well, you can not purchase one for what I paid for this one, but I can tell you it is a great investment". Statements by us owners such as these and indicating to anyone who is inquisitive, that it would require $100 plus to get your Prowler, is in my opinion how you increase it's value. EVERYTHING is relative. Everything is a state of mind. Express your state of mind!!
Just look at real estate. Someone in a neighbor hood decides to put their home on the market for $300,000.00, and suddenly every home in the area is now worth $300 plus. It happens everyday. High priced cars began the same way. Change your thought process. Most everyone here does not care to sell their car now, anyway. Right??? Change your thought process. Let people know that your car is worth $100,000.00. AND soon it will be that and more, and More, and MORE!! This car has everything in the world going in it's favor to be an expensive classic...except us as owners. Change your thought process... Throw your chest out and be proud to be one of the very few people in the entire WORLD to own this classic automobile!!!! You smile now each time you drive it and in a few years you will be smiling all the way to the bank. Okay???


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Again this car is only going to be what we want, and demand that it be. As for the "Naysayers", I AM an automotive enthusiast, and I do purchase cars as an investment as do many others on this site, as well as " the keeper of the key of this site". I dare say that any of us would feel that we are "naive", in our decisions to purchase for investment purposes. The Wall Street Journal printed the top ten investments in the world recently. #4 was Classic automobiles. Is your Prowler a "classic"? I think so!!
It's a state of mind and what you desire. You decide.
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Nice post TopKat.

One thing that will spur interest in Prowlers is to drive them.
I see Kats for sale all the time with under 1000 miles on them.
It's no wonder that the vast majority of people have no idea what the Prowler is, who made it, how many were made and so on......
Like TopKat, I drive mine and I'm always eager to tell (people who ask) everything I can about Prowlers.

A car collector once told me that if I wanted to increase the value of a car I had, all I had to do was drive it to spark interest. People see it and they want one.
Supply and demand. If there isn't a demand then the current supply will be under valued.

Try to put them on the road at least once a week. Weather permitting.

Just my opinion.
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quote:
Originally posted by Top Kat:
The Wall Street Journal printed the top ten investments in the world recently. #4 was Classic automobiles. Is your Prowler a "classic"? I think so!!

I believe a classic is defined as a vehicle being over 25 years old.

And I think the WSJ is speaking of really old classics like Delahaye or Rolls or Duesenbergs.

How many built and how old though doesn't always equate to money. I've seen vehicles where only 1000 or so were built and they are over 25 years old and most folks STILL don't want one.

If you bought a prowler thinking you could retire on what it's worth in 3-5 or even 10 years well, we'll wave to you at the soup kitchen when we drive by each morning!

Yes, the prowler will be worth more then what you paid for it 25 years from now. But, then again, a loaf of bread will probably cost $10K so it could be a wash....

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"Yellow", I'm afraid you have the terms ANTIQUE and CLASSIC
confused. An antique is an item 25 years old, how ever a classic is defined by "Mr. Webster" as, "having simple tailored lines which never go out of style", "having permanent greatness","recognized excellence". I think you will have great difficulty convincing any Prowler owner, or true automotive enthusiast that those words do not discribe the Prowler. As for the WSJ report; they were specifically speaking of 60's Muscle Cars. Again, I will finish by saying it is all a state of mind. If everyone on this site chooses to be a pessimist as opposed to an optimist, and does nothing to elevate the level of thinking of the public, then true..... we all just have another car with 4 wheels to drive occasionally! I myself choose differently. State of mind!
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Here is the 1928 announcement by Walter Chrysler regarding the "New" Plymouth models...
As I understand , the last year a Plymouth was produced was 2000, and in Canada (sorry about the C word)....the Prowler was the only Plymouth offered for sale. Maybe other models were offered in the US, I don't know.
My 2000 Black Plymouth Prowler is one of 71 built for Canada.
Antique.... nope
Classic.... 4 sure
Collectable.. U bet
Investment... Maybe
Value........ Priceless !!

Way to Go Plymouth !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Jim, they offered Neons, also in the US, best that I can remember.

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