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Marty Usher



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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2483887378&category=15284#mainImage

Listed as 1999
Silver was not available in 1999 - ad claims no sign of repair work
The car has chrome shifter bezel - 2000 and newer
The radio is pre 2000
Vin # is 1999

What's your guess?

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Excellent point Marty about the radio (automatic volume adjuster),,,,you got us wondering now. Silver cats were 'built' in 1999, as my cat's production date is 12-07-99, but are titled as 2000's. Maybe it was the first silver built and they didn't have the new radio bezels ready or were trying to get rid of the old stuff first? I'd be skeptical of this one and would want to see a photo of the actual Florida title that they have,,,,,could be a salvage title car that was painted silver??? I did notice that they went go to great lengths to point out NO WARRANTY existed OR that they can't be held responsible for ANY misinformation about the ad or representation of the car
Too many red flags!!! Somebody needs to do a complete Carfax report on this one, IMO.

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I am pretty sure 99's came with gray bumpers. The shifter may be blocking the tell tale sign of the radio. My guess it is a 2000 or newer. Beside they list it as a 99 Chrysler Prowler and we all know there is no such thing.

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Rich - I just went out and looked at Lethia's cat, and the angle of the picture wouldn't block out the radio volume switch,,,,it's above the power plug hole. I caught the part about it being a Chrysler, but many people know Plymouths are not being built any more and advertise them as Chryslers. Pulled up that one picture of the DC label on the door and looked at it through a magnifying glass,,,,looks like build date: 6 - 99 Pilot car that survived the crusher?

Still wondering?

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IN 'the prowler story",silver introduced oct. '99,
also states,...july 2000, prowler 2000 model yr. production ENDS w/ silver
> '99s did have gray bmprs!
> mar 2001, more silvers were made.
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My 99 has a chrome bezel. That has been replaced on a lot of cars, probably. Someone close could go check it out if anyone is that interested in it. Lots of mysteries surfacing with these cars already.
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Yes, VIN is 99
However, black bumpers and temperature and compass say 2000.
ABS brakes say never.
veRRRRy confusing.

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its got to be a 2k !, he prob. looked at mfg date?
> HES CONFUSED.....
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Hey guys here is the carfax on this car somebody was asking?
does anyone know how to brake down the vins on prowlers?
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collected the largest vehicle history database in North America. This
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may not have been reported to CARFAX. Use this report as one important
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decision about your next used car.

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CARFAX TALKING CAR (TM)
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The story of this 1999 PLYMOUTH PROWLER (1P3EW65G3XV500602)
according to our interpretation of the information reported to CARFAX:

* This convertible has had 3 owners and was owned in Pennsylvania
and South Carolina. The first title for this convertible was
reported to CARFAX by a Pennsylvania DMV in 1998.

* It has had no minor or moderate accidents reported to CARFAX.

* It has had no DMV-reported total loss events, like a major
accident, fire or flood.

* It has a consistent mileage history with no indication of an
odometer rollback. It was driven an average of 292 miles per
year, which is lower than than the industry average of 15,000.
The last odometer reading, reported on 10/15/2002, was 1,225
miles.

* It was not reported to a DMV as a Manufacturer Buyback (LEMON).

* Its basic warranty has expired. You may want to discuss an
extended warranty with your dealer.

* Go to the Detailed Vehicle History for the complete history and
a glossary of terms.

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CARFAX VEHICLE HISTORY REPORT SUMMARY
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** Good News - Vehicle qualifies for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee!
No severe problems (major accidents, fire, flood damage, major odometer
problems or lemon history) were ever reported by a Department of Motor
Vehicles (DMV) for this 1999 PLYMOUTH PROWLER (1P3EW65G3XV500602).
If you find that any of these severe problems were reported by a DMV
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Sect.# Section Name Section Results
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1. ACCIDENT CHECK
Total Loss Check NO Severe Accident or Total Loss Event Reported to DMV - Buyback Guarantee!
Other Accident Indicators NO Accident Indicator Found

2. MILEAGE ACCURACY CHECK
Truth-In-Mileage Check NO Odometer Problems Reported to DMV - Buyback Guarantee!
Odometer Rollback Check No Potential Odometer Rollback Found
Mileage Consistency Check NO Inconsistent Odometer Reading Found

3. LEMON CHECK(R) NO Mfr. Buyback Reported to DMV - Buyback Guarantee!

4. OWNERSHIP CHECK
Number of owners 3 Estimated Owner(s)
Type of owners Checked 8 Types of Vehicle Registrations

5. RECALL CHECK PLYMOUTH does not report recalls to CARFAX

6. WARRANTY CHECK No Coverage Remaining on Basic Warranty

DETAILED VEHICLE HISTORY 6 HISTORY RECORDS REPORTED

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VEHICLE DESCRIPTION
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Year/Make/Model: 1999 PLYMOUTH PROWLER
Body Style: CONVERTIBLE
Engine: 3.5L V6 SMPI SOHC ALM
Fuel: GASOLINE
Driveline: REAR WHEEL DRIVE

Safety Equipment:
Dual air bags front/active (manual) belts with passenger side deactivation switch

Standard Equipment:
Power Windows, Power Steering, Air Conditioning, AM / FM CD, Power Brakes, Tilt Wheel

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SECTION 1 ACCIDENT CHECK
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TOTAL LOSS CHECK:
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* GOOD NEWS! No severe damage events were ever reported by a DMV for this
1999 PLYMOUTH PROWLER (1P3EW65G3XV500602). If you find that
any of the following severe problems were reported by a DMV and not
included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back.
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*OK* Salvage Title *OK* Loss Due to Fire Title
*OK* Junk Title *OK* Flood Damage Title
*OK* Rebuilt/Reconstructed Title *OK* Hail Damage Title
*OK* Dismantled Title *OK* Canadian Total Loss

OTHER ACCIDENT INDICATORS:
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This 1999 PLYMOUTH PROWLER (1P3EW65G3XV500602) had no accident
indicators reported to CARFAX from its sources. This section checks for
accidents and/or related damage reported from many public and private sources.
Not all accidents are reported to CARFAX. A vehicle inspection completed
by your dealer or professional mechanic is recommended.

Salvage Auction Record..............> NO Salvage Auction Record Reported
Fire Damage Record..................> NO Fire Damage Record Reported
Crash Test Vehicle Record...........> NO Crash Test Vehicle Record Reported
Airbag Deployment Record............> NO Airbag Deployment Record Reported
Damage Disclosure Record............> NO Damage Disclosure Record Reported
Police Accident Record..............> NO Police Accident Record Reported

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SECTION 2 MILEAGE ACCURACY CHECK
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TRUTH-IN-MILEAGE CHECK:
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* RESULT: GOOD NEWS!
No major odometer problems were ever reported by a DMV under the
Truth-In-Mileage Act for this 1999 PLYMOUTH PROWLER (1P3EW65G3XV500602).
If you find that any of the following odometer problems were
reported by a DMV and not included in this report, CARFAX will
buy this vehicle back. You must register to activate this free guarantee!

*OK* Not Actual Mileage Title - issued by DMV when the owner discloses
mileage fraud or a broken odometer.

*OK* Exceeds Mechanical Limits Title - issued by DMV when the owner
discloses an odometer rollover.

ODOMETER ROLLBACK CHECK:
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* RESULT: GOOD NEWS!
CARFAX found no odometer rollbacks for this
1999 PLYMOUTH PROWLER (1P3EW65G3XV500602).
Rollbacks reported in this section originate from readings
collected by a DMV or other verifiable source.

MILEAGE CONSISTENCY CHECK:
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* RESULT: GOOD NEWS!
CARFAX found no inconsistent odometer readings in the mileage history
of this 1999 PLYMOUTH PROWLER (1P3EW65G3XV500602).

Date: Mileage:
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09/28/1998 14
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10/15/2002 1,225
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Avg. miles driven per year 292

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to the industry average of 15,000 miles per year. Use this
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SECTION 3 LEMON CHECK
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* GOOD NEWS!
No manufacturer buyback was ever reported by a DMV for this
1999 PLYMOUTH PROWLER (1P3EW65G3XV500602). If you find that a
manufacturer buyback was reported by a DMV and not included in this
report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back.
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SECTION 4 OWNERSHIP CHECK
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Ownership History:
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CARFAX estimates that this 1999 PLYMOUTH PROWLER (1P3EW65G3XV500602)
had 3 owner(s). CARFAX analyzed this vehicle's title history and other
supporting events to identify potential ownership transfers. In compliance
with the U.S. privacy laws, CARFAX does not collect or report owner names
or addresses.

Estimated Owners: Date: Location:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~
1st owner 09/28/1998 Pennsylvania
2nd owner 09/12/2003 South Carolina
3rd owner Not Reported

CARFAX Advisor(TM)
The cost of ownership varies by vehicle. Go to Edmunds.com to check the
recommended service schedule and estimated costs for this vehicle. http://applications.edmunds.com/maintenance/MaintenanceServlet?id=lin2154&popup=new&make=Plymouth&model=Prowler&year=1999&mileage=1225&zip=11950

Types of Owners:
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This 1999 PLYMOUTH PROWLER (1P3EW65G3XV500602) was
checked for 8 types of registrations.

Personal Use Registration............> Personal Use Registration Reported
Lease Registration..................> NO Lease Registration Reported
Rental Registration.................> NO Rental Registration Reported
Taxi Registration...................> NO Taxi Registration Reported
Fleet Registration..................> NO Fleet Registration Reported
Commercial Registration.............> Commercial Registration Reported
Non-Profit Registration.............> NO Non-Profit Registration Reported
Built to Non U.S. Standards Record..> NO Built to Non U.S. Standards Record Reported

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SECTION 5 RECALL CHECK
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PLYMOUTH does not report recall information for specific vehicles to CARFAX.

Refer to the CARFAX SAFETY & RELIABILITY REPORT (tm) for recalls
issued by the National Highway Traffic Safety Association (NHTSA)
for the 1999 PLYMOUTH PROWLER.

You can also contact an authorized dealership or PLYMOUTH at 1-800-992-1997
to find out if this 1999 PLYMOUTH PROWLER (1P3EW65G3XV500602)
still has recalls that require repair.

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SECTION 6 WARRANTY CALCULATOR
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CARFAX estimated the remaining original manufacturer warranty coverage
for this 1999 PLYMOUTH PROWLER (1P3EW65G3XV500602) using
the date this report was generated (10.Jul.2004 21:35:02) and
the last odometer reading reported to CARFAX.

Estimated start date of warranty: 08/20/1998
Last reading reported on 10/15/2002: 1,225 miles
Today's Date: July 10, 2004

Basic Original Warranty:
36 months or 36,000 miles
Remaining Coverage:
Coverage expired
Drivetrain Original Warranty:
36 months or 36,000 miles
Remaining Coverage:
Coverage expired
Emissions Original Warranty:
24 months or 24,000 miles
Remaining Coverage:
Coverage expired
Corrosion Original Warranty:
60 months or 100,000 miles
Remaining Coverage:
Coverage expired
Transferable Original Warranty:
Transferable at not cost.
Remaining Coverage:
Same
Roadside Assistance Original Warranty:
36 months or 36,000 miles
Remaining Coverage:
Coverage expired
Safety Belt & Inflatable Restraint Original Warranty:
No data reported to CARFAX
Specific Components:
96 months or 80,000 miles
Remaining Coverage:
26 months or 78,775 miles
Notes:
Manufacturer covers emissions components under basic warranty. Emissions coverage may vary by state. Refer to owners manual for specific details. Transferable: not cost, unlimited owners covered. Corrosion coverage applies to outer panels, inner panels are covered under corrosion for 3 years only. Brakes, wiper blades, and clutch discs are covered for 1 year or 12,000 miles.

CARFAX Warranty Check provides an estimate of this vehicle's
remaining warranty coverage. It does not take into account some
vehicle history events. For example, major accidents resulting
in Salvage or Junk titles that may void the original
manufacturer warranty or ownership transfers that may decrease
warranty coverage. Complete warranty coverage information is
available for this vehicle at the
PLYMOUTH web site.

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DETAILED VEHICLE HISTORY
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CARFAX searched more than 3 billion records from over 5,300 sources
and found 6 record(s) for this 1999 PLYMOUTH PROWLER (1P3EW65G3XV500602).
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Date: 09/01/1998
Information Source:
Pennsylvania
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Coraopolis, PA

General Comments:
Registered as
personal vehicle

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Date: 09/28/1998
Odometer Reading: 14
Information Source:
Pennsylvania
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Coraopolis, PA

General Comments:
Title or registration issued
First owner reported

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Date: 10/15/2002
Odometer Reading: 1,225
Information Source:
Dealer Inventory
Pittsburgh, PA

General Comments:
Vehicle offered for sale

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Date: 09/12/2003
Information Source:
South Carolina
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Saint George, SC
Title #770180116770538

General Comments:
New owner reported

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Date: 09/12/2003
Information Source:
South Carolina
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Saint George, SC
Title #770180116770538

General Comments:

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Date: 01/12/2004
Information Source:
South Carolina
Motor Vehicle Dept.
West Columbia, SC
Title #770760121090772

General Comments:
New owner reported
Registered as commercial vehicle

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NOTE: Not all titles issued represent a change in vehicle ownership. For
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Lemon History:
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quote:
Originally posted by cypunk:
Hey guys here is the carfax on this car somebody was asking?
does anyone know how to brake down the vins on prowlers?


The "X" in the 10th position says 1999.

-GRROWL

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According to the CarFax, car was first registered in September 1998. That would indicate a 1999 model.

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With the vin # as listed in the add being for a '99 and the radio being a '99, I guess someone could have painted it Silver, added black bumpers, and the chrome shifter bezel. I didn't see a pic of the mirror to see if it had the readout in it.


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Marty - interesting!!

Looks like this one was built at the end of a run of purple and at the beginning of a run of yellow.

1P3EW65GOXV500587 - purple
1P3EW65G2XV500591 - purple
1P3EW65G3XV500602 - ? silver ?
1P3EW65G2XV500641 - yellow
1P3EW65G6XV500643 - yellow

I'd say it is legit. I bet DC was in the middle of two production runs and decided to test their new color. Silver was the only "new" color released in 2000. This is probably silver prowler #1!!!

I doubt it was repainted. Everything on it is stock and it has only 2k miles on it. Looks like it was bought as a collector's item, not as a motorhead toy...

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I'm going to bet it's an original 1999, not repainted. After discovering the silver/black models from 2000 that were not Black Ties, I'd say this is not beyond the realm of possibilities.

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I agree with V Cat Dude
Too much trouble to go through to paint a 2K mile car
a diff color, bet this is the silver pilot.
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Quote by Alley Cat:

"Maybe it was the first silver built,,,"


Quote by Virginia Cat Dude:

"This is probably silver prowler #1!!!"

Maybe we are on the right track, BUT, in the ad the picture of the door label shows a 6 - 99 build date, and the Carfax report shows it registered first in 1998. I was thinking that McDonald's corp probably got one of the first silver cats made, as they were doing a give-away contest of a silver Prowler in the later months of 1999. They would had to have the car earlier to do the promo pictures they used on their french fry packages, game pieces, and contest mats.

I don't know the answer to this one, but I do think something SMELLS pretty bad on the surface facts listed. JMO

This message has been edited by ALLEY CAT on 07-12-2004 at 07:15 AM

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posted 07-11-2004 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     send a private message to CJ   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CJ
Yes, the 99's had grey bumpers...........but when the 2000's came out with the black bumpers, I changed my grey to black on the 99 Black Cat!
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posted 07-12-2004 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for idive     send a private message to idive   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by idive
I noticed it was registered as a commercial vehicle. Many businesses don't carry insurance and just pay for repairs themselves. This could account for no accident report, the missing signature on the trunklid, the build date on the (replaced?) door, and different bumpers. Just food for thought. This car may have been in a minor accident and the company paid for damages themselves.

Interesting thread.

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Regarding Painted Bumpers on a '99--I still have the original Window Sticker showing everything it came with and for how much! My RED '99--I purchased last month--came with painted F & R Bumpers for NO addl monies! Chrome Wheels were $1,000 & Prowler RED Clear Coat was $1,000 & Destination was $700. Period! Those were the ONLY extra costs...total price: $42,000 <exactly> ken
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'99 and a half.

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posted 07-12-2004 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
Ken, what color are your painted bumpers?
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Ed....is that a trick question My painted bumpers are yellow ! However, the original color was grey
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posted 07-12-2004 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
Ken, that is my question. Are they painted grey, black or to match the car color.
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quote:
Originally posted by ed monahan:
Ken, that is my question. Are they painted grey, black or to match the car color.

KEN G OR KEN BERRY??? Ed, there are two Kens' posting on this thread,,,which one?

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I think Ed was talking to me (Ken who posted about the Black Painted Bumpers!)
All I can say is that on the invoice or window sticker or whatever it's called, It mentions Black Pained Bumpers with NO ADDL CHARGE...I don't know how to post photos here, but if you want me to email it to you--Ed Monahan--I will. Then you could post it here so all who have this question can read my exact window sticker! Wanna do that? Let me know!
~Ken BERRY

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