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gulfcoastautobrokers
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The car does have a stripe. It says Prowler on the right rear bumper and it only has 1530 miles.
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Does anyone know the VIN# of the car that was at the Black Tea Party?
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posted 03-02-2003 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WildCat     send a private message to WildCat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by WildCat
is the tub Black or silver?

It is my understanding that all the black ties and Woodwards have a black tub. so when the doors are open the black on the tub & the silver on the fender/rockers would show in the opening and the firewall also would be black

I was there at the Black Tie event bet didn't get the number off the car

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posted 03-02-2003 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     send a private message to CJ   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CJ
A VERY reliable source has given me the following info on the two-tone Prowlers!

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The five two tone(black/silver) cars were built in July of 2000 for show cars (2), a promo car and other uses(2). They show silver on the build info and were built with the last batch of 2000 silvers. The car in question is indeed an actual build by Chrysler as a show car. They were all striped but not numbered.

Woodward edition cars were built when black cars were on line and have a black tubs. The Black Ties were built when silver cars were on line and have silver tubs. Black hoods, decks, etc were installed on the line just as any other car and not added later.



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Is there any way I can document this?
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posted 03-02-2003 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     send a private message to CJ   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CJ
I'll ask that question.
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CJ - thanks for getting to the bottom of this question.

GulfCoast - Looks like it all will work out for you.

Roadster - What are you going to do? One helluva warranty opportunity exists with this car,,,,adding the extended warranty.


One thing still puzzles me??? Built in 07-00 with no Plymouth left rear bumper badging. I have a thought, but going to keep it to myself.

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Alley Cat; I want to thank you, CJ, Wildcat, Todd and Cat Dude for all the input and helpful information pertaining to this vehicle. Paul from Gulf Coast Auto has been wonderful to deal with has worked hard to determine the true history of this Prowler. I will be talking with Paul on Monday in the AM. I would be most interested in any additional information available or questions that should be asked. Again thanks for all your time and efforts. Best regards, Roadster
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That's a steal. Great for the buyer, what makes a broker sell a car like this so cheap ?
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What is this car realy worth for a quick sales.
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My 99 Black now has to share the garage with 2000 Black/Silver - Black Tie?
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CJ; As I stated above, the vehicle has been purchased, so no matter what the history of the vehicle we will love and enjoy it. However, I am still curious as to the history of this particular Prowler. If there is a way for me to contact someone at Chrysler, please let me know. Thanks again for all your assistance. Roadster
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roadster...........congratulations on your new cat...and you are most welcome!
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Bruce,
After an inspection of the 2000 Black tie this morning I am very happy for you, I think you have an authentic car!
Many parts such as the shocks, bumpers,and many parts under the car are correct for the year. After comparing the factory style on my 3 Cars to this one, I think I would bet all the panels are the way they left DC. There is no evidence of this car ever being hit, no overspray, no replacment panels, or repaint. The fit and finish of the trunk hood doors and side panels are better than I have seen. The Black paint areas look as if someone took extra time with them as they are flawless. The hood and Trunk appear not to be repainted, but started life in Black. The Hinges on the back and front show no overspray at all and believe me I looked. The stripe appears to be just like the others I have seen except void of the #. We lifted the carpet up in the trunk area and the panel has always been black. The sticker in the door from DC is one I have not seen on any of my cars, and reinforces its oddity. The firewall seemed to have extra care given to it as you will see when you get her home. I tried to inspect for you all the welds, and they all have the factory paint, check marks.
The paper work from DC states clearly the car was used for show purposes and the first buyer had to sign off on this.
Once again best of luck, I hope this puts your mind at ease alittle more,
Happy Prowlin DQ


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Congratulations on a great find Roadster!
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Roadster, If someone was going to steal one from me, I glad it was you. It has been a real pleasure doing this deal with you. I want to thank all of you for giving me an education on Prowlers. If I steal another one I will post it on this site.
Thanks again,
Gulf Coast Auto Brokers
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Paul; Its all about integrity and you have a ton. It is not only my transaction, but reading the feed back from your customers on E-Bay says it all. I really enjoyed working with you on this purchase and hope you will sell some Prowlers to POA members in the future. Thanks, Roadster
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Congrats on the new Kitty... Black Tie's are one of my fav's
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Roadster - CONGRATS on the purchase!

Paul - find me a 2000 orange, under 5,000 miles, cream puff, 30K Thanks for hanging in there proving you are one of the good guys out there. We all learned from this one. Stop by and say hello anytime!

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Alley Cat I'll see what I can do. The word is out that I buy Prowlers now. I should be able to find more at wholesale prices. I know where there is a yellow one. I'm going to see if they will wholesale it. If I get any more you guys will be the first to know.

Thanks again,
Paul

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Not to challenge the results of the investigation as I would take as truth anything said by the people who responded here. CJ always seem to have the best line of information!!

One thing interesting in this post is the fact that this car was noted as a Chrysler. It was noted that the bumper only said Prowler a good indication that it was a Chrysler. But..... the VIN # shows it as a Plymouth. The sequencing of the VIN's with the other silvers seemed to confirm this. Further, I thought they did not convert from Plymouth to Chrysler until the middle of the 2001 model year?? So why call it a Chrysler?? Who Knows.

It truly is an unusual car. Congratulations on a great find and welcome aboard!

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Kurt Schwarz Orange 2001

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KLKschwarz; Paul rechecked the bumpers and confirmed that the left reads Plymouth and right Prowler. I have not seen any of the paper work on the vehicle, however, Mike (a POA member) look it over and confirmed that it reflects Chrysler not Plymouth. When I have the time I would like to pursue this matter.
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posted 07-08-2004 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
This is another one that is very interesting
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It certainly settled the question of the history of the Black Ties and Woodwards....
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That is why it needed to come back to the top. A lot of newer people the past few months or else the lurkers are starting to take part. Either way, it makes it a better site.

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