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posted 09-05-2002 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Prowler     send a private message to Prowler   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Prowler
Kevin,

They have a Battery Tender type device at Wally-World for $25.00. It has the capability of being bolted to the car for some permanency.

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D-man:

Looked at those, but opted for the original. It has a quick disconnect feature that adds a lot of convenience. $34 plus shipping.

Getting ready for the Cruise? Hope the weather cools a bit.

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I don't have a good feeling about inflating the tires to 45#. If that was the permanent pressure, fine, but inflating so far over recommended normal operating pressure and then letting them down can't be good. The overinflation will create a different profile than operating condition and you're hoping it will return to normal after that. Don't know that's a safe assumption on EMTs.

These EMTs are strange beasts. I am convinced that every time you mess with them they need to "settle back" to normal. After I "rotated" my fronts, I thought it was my imagination that the ride was rougher. Then it settled down after about a thousand miles. I "rotated" the back, and the same thing happened. The sensors were changed in the rears, the tires remounted and reinstalled in the same position, and it happened again. As a result, when I took the wheels off to change to ceramic pads, I made sure to put the wheels back on in the same position (by marking the valve position on the brake rotor). Rather than worrying about flat spots on the tread, I'm more concerned with deforming those overly-stiff sidewalls.

If I was faced with storing a Prowler with EMTs for the winter (thankfully, I am not faced with that - even though I have a spare car, I take GRROWL as long as there's no water, ice or snow, which is most of the time), here's what I would do regarding tires and suspension:

- jack the car
- pad under the tires
- lower until tires touch the pads
- place jack stands under the 4 frame pads
- lower an additional inch

This will pad and reduce weigh on the tires to prevent flat spots and sidewall deformation, relieve pressure on the suspension, yet leave the A-arm geometry within operating limits without allowing the suspension components to hang in an unnatural geometry.

Just my 2 cents based on my limited personal experience with the EMTs - "normal" may not apply here.

-GRROWL

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posted 09-06-2002 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     send a private message to CJ   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CJ
We've stored my Black Cat as I described above every winter since I've had it and we've NOT had any problems with flat spots on the tires.........or any other problems for that matter.
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Thanks all. The sidewall states "Max pressure 44 psi", so I know what my limits should be, if I go that route.

CJ: Did you get my e-mail?

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posted 09-06-2002 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     send a private message to CJ   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CJ
Yes, Kevin, I did.

I just got back from Cincy this evening, so I need a couple of days to get in touch with my contact on the car bags.

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You're the best!

Sorry if I sounded impatient. It's going to be near 100 here this weekend, and who the @$#% knows when the snow will start to fly?

Do they make an EdJacket? (lol)

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posted 09-07-2002 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     send a private message to CJ   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CJ
That's okay...........let's not rush the winter, huh! lol!
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quote:
Originally posted by ALLEY CAT:
OK guys, your answer - Phx Chamber of Commerce says it rains 20 days per year,,,,,,cats hate water,,,,,,345 days of nice driving time with no rain.

We have the same problem as Alley Cat, although we probably have fewer days of rain than does the Phoenix area, we always say 360 days of sun here in southern New Mexico.

So winter storage becomes a different situation for us, than for those in the not-so-sunny parts of the US.

Take a look (and yes, we do recommend a battery tender), this is our Kat in winter (summer, spring and fall) storage:


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Rotating tires?
I thought EMT's are directional tires and had to stay on the same side of the car.
Is that no longer true?
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posted 09-08-2002 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GRROWL     send a private message to GRROWL   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by GRROWL
dave....,

I assume you're referring to my response.

"rotate" (in quotes) = dismount tires, remount on opposite side (wheels stay where they were, direction of tire rotation stays the same)

see: http://www.prowleronline.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000606.html
for more complete discussion
(yes, EMTs are unidirectional, but not asymmetrical - they need to rotate in a single direction, but there is no inner or outer side)

-GRROWL

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by CJ:
[B]Wildcat...........I'm not sure I like the way that sounded!! Are you calling me a "bag lady?" lol!

I didn't call you a bag lady I said you were a bag expert and you proved it. thanks for your details

I do not put extra air in the tires and have not had a problem in 4 years of storing on concrete.

The idea of putting a car on blocks was real important with older poly or bias ply tires, modern radials do not have the problem of flat spotting the older tires had. also as mentioned the suspension is to have the weight on it/then again I've heard it shouldn't.

DO WHAT YOU THINK IS BEST, there is no ONE RIGHT WAY to store a car. Last year I had the car out each month. So I really didn't store it. I just drove it less Yes it had stable in the gas. Drove enough no need for battery tender.

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If your going to store your kat suggest putting Bounce fabric sheets around the car. I'm told mice dont like it.I'm going to try it this winter myself. But I'm curious -- why wont you keep your top latched over the winter????
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posted 09-11-2002 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
Ted, the tops tend to stretch if they are pulled tight for that long of a "stretch" of time.
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posted 09-19-2002 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GRROWL     send a private message to GRROWL   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by GRROWL
quote:
Originally posted by GRROWL:
What happened to the time-honored approach of "up on blocks"???

Maybe I'm not as old-fashioned as I thought. The October issue of Popular Mechanics (that has been covering cars for 100 years now) coincidentally(?) has an article on "Storing Your Car". It says,

"If the vehicle is to be left for 6 months or longer, the issue of flat-spotting tires is worth considering. Prevention is straight-forward if you have a set of four jackstands."

-GRROWL


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