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C5 Frank

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posted 05-26-2002 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for C5 Frank     send a private message to C5 Frank   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by C5 Frank
My Kat is one of the later produced Plymouths. 1st I wanted to know if the Prowler was the last car produced with the Plymouth name. Second, does anyone know what date they changed from the Plymouth to Chrysler? Thanks

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My understanding is...The last of the Plymouth Prowlers was in Orange Pearl coat. 669 sold in the US and 20 sold in Canada, and 6 were pilots, totaling 695 built in orange. However, in the 2001 silver only 545 were built.

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posted 05-26-2002 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WildCat     send a private message to WildCat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by WildCat
Frank,

The last Plymouth was Orange and resides at the Mike & Judy Krehel Prowler Museum in Texas, (we have to protect the location so Alley Cat does not find it)

The Muholland was the 1st of the Chryslers but not sure when that was, but I'm thinking Jan or Feb of 2001

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posted 05-26-2002 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALLEY CAT     send a private message to ALLEY CAT   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ALLEY CAT
Mr. Mayes - I know where the museum is located! You don't think I would accept such a big job as Chief Curator (CC), without first viewing my new employment address?

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posted 05-26-2002 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CWatsonJr     send a private message to CWatsonJr   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CWatsonJr
Okay - I took a look through the owner's registry. Mike doesn't have the MDH on his last Plymouth but the earliest MDH codes I could find for the Chrysler's are as follows (all are Mulhollands):


I find it interesting that my MDH is 7 days after the first one I could find and my VON and VIN are 1 higher.

If Mike would be so kind as to post the MDH on his last Plymouth, that would show the gap between the two. Also, maybe CJ or Mike know the exact dates.

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posted 05-26-2002 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
Off the top of my head I thought it was like Jan 20th, 2001. I would bet it is on this site somewhere since it was discussed at that time. Let's all try a search.

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Ed you are right, the last plymouths were orange as alex says above. His car is verified and certified the last plymouth. Question for you guys Do you think the last prowler would ever be worth as much as the last prowler. My opinion would be yes because it is the last Plymouth, this was not just a car going away but a brand. Plymouth has been around for what 60 years. If he did a museum he has all the feature pieces of any prowler museum. I have sold alot of prowlers to alot of multiple prowler owners but none of those owners love their cars as much as Mike.

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posted 05-27-2002 02:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Krehel     send a private message to Mike Krehel   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Mike Krehel
quote:
Originally posted by CWatsonJr:

If Mike would be so kind as to post the MDH on his last Plymouth, that would show the gap between the two. Also, maybe CJ or Mike know the exact dates.


The MDH on our orange (last) Plymouth Prowler is (01)Jan (17)17th (07)7AM

I'm not sure what the 344AC means, but will check into it.

The MDH on our Candy Red is (02)Feb (14)14th (11)11AM. We were there the morning of the 13th when the plant opened and that's when the body hit the line, but the frame didn't arrive until the morning of the 14th, and the body drop didn't occur until about 9AM on the 14th, so it must be assigned shortly after the body drop on the frame.

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posted 05-27-2002 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     send a private message to CJ   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CJ
If I remember correctly, Neon was actually the last vehicle produced with the Plymouth name before Plymouth was dropped.
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Source: Daimler-Chrsyler
Document ID: SSJPB132817
Statment: Last Plymouth Neon nameplate ended at the close of the 1999 model year run.
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posted 05-27-2002 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WildCat     send a private message to WildCat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by WildCat
Alley Cat UB WRONG on the last Neon

I believe the last neon was a 2001

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posted 05-27-2002 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
CJ, I never disagree with you about anything DC but I am almost positive they killed off the Neon, before the last Prowler. I have no idea how to verify that but I remember Neon going out first. If I am wrong, I prefer my crow well done.

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WC - I didn't say I was RIGHT,,,,,,just taking what DC said at their website! I personally thought that the last Plymouth Neon was made at the end of the 2000 model year???


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Also, I'm on record many times as stating that I thought it to be a major marketing error to change the name of the Prowler from Plymouth to Chrysler, before the end of production. That statement, I'll always believe I was right on!!!

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Just went on "Live Chat" with DC agent, who couldn't answer the question. He said to call 800-992-1997 on tuesday.


Since I eat crow medium rare, I'll let others get the answer on tuesday. DC states end of 1999 model run, I'll say end of 2000 model run for the Neon (???) I know Jack!

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posted 05-27-2002 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Krehel     send a private message to Mike Krehel   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Mike Krehel
Here are the answers:

The last Plymouths (2) and first Chryslers (12) were built on 1-17-01.
The last Plymouth vehicle was a Neon built at Belvidere assembly plant.
The 344AC on the MDH label are the last numbers of the emission label part number that is located on the upper radiator support.
The MDH reflects the time when the tub is dropped on the frame and not when the car drove off the line.


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posted 05-27-2002 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
Dang Mike, you could have let me be right ONCE. Sorry I doubted you CJ. Glad I didn't bet on that one.

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Chrysler website information: TWO thumbsdown

Chrysler website "Live Chat" information: ONE thumb down

That leaves me with my order: Roadkill Crow Mignon, salad with 1000, asperagus w/sauce, baked potato w/butter, and dinner rolls. No dinner napkin needed,,,,,,,I prefer to let the juices run down my chin and onto my shirt!!!

Mike - thanks for the correction. BTW, WHO on Memorial Day Holiday had the correct information?

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posted 05-27-2002 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Krehel     send a private message to Mike Krehel   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Mike Krehel
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Originally posted by ALLEY CAT:

Mike - thanks for the correction. BTW, WHO on Memorial Day Holiday had the correct information?

I found the answers in the "Time Capsule"... LOL

AC, Ed will supply the toothpicks.

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Mike

Ed, I prefer those plastic toothpicks,,,,,had enough wooden splinters removed from my butt for one day!

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WOW - thanks Mike!!! That time capsule sure came in handy Did they give any information on the first Chryslers off the line? (VINs, VONs, etc)?

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posted 05-27-2002 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     send a private message to CJ   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CJ
Ed...............how was the crow?
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posted 05-27-2002 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
TOUGH, extremely hard to swallow and to stomach. I am glad I did not bet money on that one.
Mike, you are telling the truth, aren't you?????? lol

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Thanks everyone for your help on this. I guess my Kat isnt as close to the end of the Plymouths as I thought.

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posted 05-27-2002 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
I did come pretty close to the date just from memory. I thought 1/20/01.

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