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JUST JP


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posted 06-18-2001 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JUST JP     send a private message to JUST JP   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by JUST JP
Good one, Mike.

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posted 06-18-2001 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WildCat     send a private message to WildCat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by WildCat
Mike is right, this is a touchy subject. I read this before going and mowing the grass and having time to think.

There is a lot of things from the past that caused the differences written in the thread. Do we want to live in the past? Time to move forward. I do not read or post on PPC, don't even know how to get there anymore.

Now I've had time to think about it a GROUP HUG OF ALL THE PROWLER OWNERS is in order.

I don't care if you belong to the Yugo Club of America too as long as you Love the Prowler you are welcome here


Deadwood here we come all POA & PPC or just a Lone Cat Owner is welcome

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posted 06-18-2001 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PaulR     send a private message to PaulR   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by PaulR
I didn't do anything and got lipstick on my collar.

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posted 06-18-2001 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NVRMND     send a private message to NVRMND   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by NVRMND
I think that well, er we should, you know just mm, well if we could you know and maybe if well, I , er hmm, what i mean is, that you see its like this they...but if we, and they and we and er um ....well I know, we have longer posts, but they have er, but here you get a, no not really, what I like is, its kinda, you know, stuff and this and that, and he said she said, but he is, if you could just, oh well what ever nevermind. Sorry
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posted 06-18-2001 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALLEY CAT     send a private message to ALLEY CAT   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ALLEY CAT
Nice try Paul, but Jody isn't going to buy that line.

Who in the hug put lipstick on Paul's collar? Ed? Cliff?

Fess up!

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posted 06-18-2001 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wayne Finch     send a private message to Wayne Finch   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Wayne Finch
I don't think I really care one way or the other but in the best interest of all current and future owners, one site that is run much the way this is would be beneficial to all. View it more as a friendly takeover.

I would not at all be opposed to a fee for this board because I know I have made friends, saved money, saved time and increased my Prowler experience from participation on the board. We all owe!!

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posted 06-18-2001 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
I missed the goup hug and I find it hard to believe anyone is hard up enough to pinch Sasquatch. By the way the Intrepid Club has over 6 members now (7 is the actual number) Salzman expressed some concern last week about it. I just wanted to give an update.
I think that the other site will either live or die by how many people tend to go there and post. If no one is using it, it is going to die. If everyone likes it and posts on it then it will thrive. My only criticism of the site was the fact that you had to be a member to get certain information. I did not know how much I was missing so I could not make an informed decision as to whether I wanted to pay dues to get a little or a lot of information. It might have been a good idea to give you a free 10 day or 30 day trial membership to see if it was worth the bucks. I was never mistreated but I happen to prefer this site.
I really don't care if they merge sites or not. I am happy here and there is nothing preventing all of their members to also post here. Therefore it is a moot point. Everyone can be on this site or they can continue to maintain that site for what ever reason. If that site folds, I don't see how that would benefit any of us. I am sure most of us do not wish them any bad luck. The prowler owners will determine if it succeeds or fails.
Again, I repeat I don't wish them any bad luck and it would be nice if we could all get along. It is hard to get everyone to agree on anything, as proven by the fact that some of you still don't realize RED is the best color. Another group hug, now that I am present. Someone watch Sasquatch's Arse.
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posted 06-18-2001 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALLEY CAT     send a private message to ALLEY CAT   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ALLEY CAT
Eddie, once again, brilliant rhetoric my friend

We waited until you were off-line to have the hug - MikeG, GPShultz, and I voted you out during that phase, sorry.

Glad to hear the Intrepid Club is up to 7 members. That is the local one in Cincy right, with all the rusted out rocker panel moldings and rusted rear quarters? Or is that your national club, the one with owners who have over 130,000 miles without an oil change? Do you think that you can combine the two sites, to reduce the amount of reading your associates must do?

Just for fun, don't take us seriously please.
JohnS, we did vote him out of the hug didn't we?

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posted 06-18-2001 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PROWLER-KEITH     send a private message to PROWLER-KEITH   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by PROWLER-KEITH
Heh Ed I reallyyyy likeeee redddd and I'm just really glad I found this site by pure accident. It has only been a time since i signed up but it has been a HOOT so far. I've had some great phone conversations and lots of very interesting and informative chats so far, so YOU ALL get the 2 thumbs up from me and just one more thing the (GUY WHO IS ONLY BRINGING 2 PAIRS OF UNDERWARE YOUR SLEEPING WITH ED)

13 more sleeps people who'es excited

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posted 06-19-2001 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALLEY CAT     send a private message to ALLEY CAT   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ALLEY CAT
Keith - I'm sleeping in Ed's room at Deadwood, but NOT with Ed.

I'm bringing two pair of underwear plus the ones I start with. It's called the Prowler packing system:
3 days from each briefs, day 1 wear regular, day 2 turn around and wear backwards, day 3 turn inside-out. Three pair = nine days on the road. Spray aftershave on socks, only one pair needed! Just need to pack t-shirts that STARFLAME mails me, plus Larry Mayes' wife Sue, does laundry on the trips. She comes with high marks for quality washing! Its easy to pack lite in a Prowler, as you don't need to take the whole house along............

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posted 06-19-2001 02:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
Keith, ignore Salzman as he is only out on a week-end pass once a month. He isn't even allowed to drive, much less own a Prowler. He got booted from the Intrepid club ( which is INTERNATIONAL smarty pants) and caused us to lose 12 % of the membership with one expulsion. We had 8 members when he was in it and then found out he had a lifetime driving suspension for driving while sober. We are pretty strict about our membership rules over there, not like this site that will let just about anyone in. Watch him closely as he will try to pawn off Canadian money on you, Keith. i could go on and on, and I usually do. GPSchultz drives in circles trying to fool his GPS which causes him a lot of dizzy spells and that is how he became friends with Sasquatch. I used to be a social worker in a mental institution so I try to watch over them. It is a rotten job but someone has to do it and I seem to be the only serious and sane one around.
Sondra almost won a huge prize a few years back for putting up with him but she got aced out by Mother Theresa when they found out she only had a few months to live. Sondra was much better qualified but it was a pity thing that won it for Mother Theresa. Well, you can imagine, how could Mother Theresa outdo what Sondra has done with Sasquatch.
Hey two weeks from now we will be in Deadwood. I don't wear undrwear which cuts way down on packing and laundry. Sandy is 84% chinese so she is very good at laundry. I must be off.
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posted 06-19-2001 07:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spoons     send a private message to spoons   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by spoons

I prefer POA because I get a better response and more posts. I am not taking sides here. I am about enjoying the cars and thats it. I just thought that we all could get along and form a stronger & bigger union? I didn't mean to upset any one. And now people are taking personal shots at me. why?

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posted 06-19-2001 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laddie Roussel     send a private message to Laddie Roussel   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Laddie Roussel
Spoons, I think there should be one Discussion Forum & one event board since these are all done by volunteers... And, it should be on prowleronline.com. There are just not enough Prowler owners to support two & this way there would be more Prowlers at any event.

I think the PPC could focus on the other benefits for it's paid members. That way you could get the best of both worlds...

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posted 06-19-2001 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     send a private message to CJ   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CJ
John,

After reading your two posts, I had to gather my thoughts before I answered. I am speaking only for myself...

Your first post starting " I tell ya, it's pretty sad".

When I transitioned from the PPC to the POA a year ago, I had just spent 6 months or more being constantly bashed by Mr. Herman and Mr. Tribble. If you didn't read any of that on PPC, I would be happy to have a conversation with you about it. You stated you spoke with many people. You didn't speak to me at that time. I can only conclude that you are judging me based on the PPC side of the story, which is the only one you have heard.

I apologize if you consider me eloquent in my writing. When I speak and when I write, I do it from the heart. I am not masking anything. If someone wants my opinion, they'd better be sure, because they will get it, no holds barred. If I decide to share my thoughts and opinions, I do it in the same manner. Sorry, just the way I am. Should I apologize for having some intelligence? Many people have told me that I should have been a writer, including my high school English teachers (in whose classes, I never had anything less than an "A" or "A+". I don't know about that, but maybe I should have and then I could afford to buy a Prowler in every color!!!

With regard to the PPC being blackballed at a national event last year. If you are referring to the Woodward Dream Cruise, then you and I need to have a conversation so that I can set the record straight. You don't know both sides of this issue, either.

I, personally, do not bash the other site or anyone on it. I will state facts, if asked, but I do not go out of my way to worry about PPC. I was banned from that site when I left. So be it. I did move on. There is only one person who can be held accountable for the PPC's lack of success, and that is the owner. More for another conversation.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the other site's members. We are all Prowler owners. If they choose to participate on the POA site and the POA events, they are more than welcome in my book. They were all invited to Dream Cruise last year and this year. We did not specify it as a club event of any kind, POA or otherwise. Carol and I billed it as an event for any and all Prowler Owners.

Tom Kalski was welcomed with open arms at the Dream Cruise last year by both Carol and me. Before he departed for the day, he asked me for ideas and assistance to get PPC back on track. I told him I had spent my time at PPC trying to keep things on track, to no avail. I was only bashed for my efforts by the two heads of the club. I had no ideas for him on how to do that. However, I did wish him luck. As I do now that he owns it.

My feelings on what type of group I want to belong to are my own. The POA, as it is right now, fulfills what I want for my Prowler owner experience. If everyone wants a merge, then my only question is how will it be decided on how it would be run? Like the POA is now, or how Tom wants the PPC to be? Whatever happens and whatever the answer is to that question, I will then make my own decision about my own involvement. That's puts it back to my original statement. It is all about choice.

This will be the last statement I make on this thread. Thanks for listening again.

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posted 06-19-2001 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALLEY CAT     send a private message to ALLEY CAT   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ALLEY CAT
Laddie - You are a wise man and have made a bold statement that I totally agree with. Its time for Tom to drop the little used Discussion Forum at the PPC, and move in another direction. I seriously doubt their membership figures (as stated by Nowell) and would think that their renewal membership dues are nearly non-existant.

I believe in the POA because it has something to offer to nearly every Prowler owner who wants to ask questions, get involved, have fun, and form new friendships. I agree that there is a large untapped number of owners out there, and with the help of DC's database, the PPC should focus its attention in that direction. Maybe news letters and its magazine; which I've never seen. The POA will also grow and be adding new associates constantly. What happens in the future, is up to "choice". My choice is the POA, as it now stands, as the leader in owner participation.

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posted 06-19-2001 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slick     send a private message to Slick   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Slick
Just a few thoughts:

1) I did not know the PPC was "For Sale" Last I looked, I own it.

2) True, Nowell DID have the rights to the merchandising. That is no longer the case.

3) I was at Woodward last year and was indeed helped by Carol and CJ. Thank you both, Again.

4) Now that the problems with the Host are settled, I will have the time to make changes at the PPC.

I think that the best thing that we all should do, is to FORGET ABOUT THE PAST! NO ONE CAN CHANGE WHAT HAPPENED.Let's all move forward and try to learn from the past.

Tom Kalski

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posted 06-19-2001 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nelson Weber     send a private message to Nelson Weber   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Nelson Weber
I prefer to "Soar With The Eagles".

Also "If You Ain't The Lead Dog, The Scenery Never Changes"

(my 2 cents worth)

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posted 06-19-2001 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spoons     send a private message to spoons   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by spoons
I love the Prowler... and I want to get as many owners envolved as we can. We have more pull if we are a larger group? I think POA is great, but several Prowler owners in my area do not use a computer and how will they be informed of future events? I don't mind paying a small fee for an organized club. I want to include everyone thats all. There are over 8000 Prowlers on the road, and less then 20% of them are on POA & PPC. I would like to see at least 50% of the owners register some place. Thats all I was getting at.

PS- Great article for POA in Mopar Magazine. I would like to see article like that in Hot Rod Mag or Car & Driver. Great Job Guys!

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