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Prowler Reproduction Parts Discussion Anyone have a right-rear axle shaft and/or Boots ? (Page 1)
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koolkty POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Oxford, MI, United States |
posted 05-19-2021 09:57 AM
Just got back from a visit to my dealer where the tech that has done all the work on my car reviewed my issue with the right rear boot leaking grease. His assessment is similar to what I was told when I visited an independent shop in Flagstaff during my trip. The axle shaft is leaking because the shaft is slightly out of alignment, probably due to something I hit during the trip. They could replace the boot and seal and refill it with grease, but because the axle is out of alignment, the grease will keep coming out anyway. They ordered the seal as it is in stock but not nearby, so no guarantee on when they can get it. They may be able to find the boot through a vintage supplier they work with so waiting to hear back on that. Here are the part numbers, in case anyone has them: Boot: 4728262, seal: 4539891. I was hoping these parts would not have been Prowler-unique but they claim they are. The right-rear axle shaft is the show-stopper since they of course don't have one and can't locate one since it is long since discontinued, and they don't know of any aftermarket replacements. The part number according to their records is 4882521AC. I'm guessing my only option is to find one salvaged from a wrecked car. Unless anyone else knows of any other options. Meanwhile she'll be staying parked for a while... |
kees POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Capelle aan den IJssel, Zuid Holland, Nederland |
posted 05-19-2021 10:32 AM
Pat, Might want to look at this link : https://store.mopar.com/oem-parts/mopar-shaft-axle-half-4882521ac 2nd option would be to call a wrecker with a Prowler 3rd option (I know, its cursing in the church) call the Prowler Store. They have second hand parts available they took from dismantled Prolwers. |
Scott99 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Fallbrook, CA, US |
posted 05-19-2021 11:05 AM
Hi, I researched this area 2 years ago. The boots are 2 different p/ns and different material as well. See my update here: http://www.prowleronline.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/024819.html Scott |
koolkty POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Oxford, MI, United States |
posted 05-19-2021 11:12 AM
Tony Goertz just reached out to me, and said he may have the parts I need. He will check and let me know. Thanks Tony!! |
Tony Goertz POA Site Supporter Administrating Kat Personal ScrapBook From:Lucan, Ontario, Canada |
posted 05-19-2021 11:16 AM
Boots available on ebay $35. Seal is actually for transaxle - to keep oil in. |
BeWare POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Acworth , Georgia , USA |
posted 05-19-2021 11:18 AM
quote: Keeping my fingers crossed for you. |
koolkty POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Oxford, MI, United States |
posted 05-19-2021 11:19 AM
quote: Hi Scott - thanks for posting this. It does sound similar to my issue. I see that your inner boot part number matches the number they gave me. So is there another boot on the inside that we can't see without disassembling it? I thought the boot I could see was all there was, but of course I know next to nothing on this. The inner boot may have been available back in 2019 when you wrote your post but it's not available from Mopar now, although as I just replied from my talk with Tony, he knows where I can find one. This message has been edited by koolkty on 05-19-2021 at 11:21 AM |
koolkty POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Oxford, MI, United States |
posted 05-19-2021 11:32 AM
Here is what I found on ebay. It looks like the part I need. It also has the clamp around both ends. https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OEM-MOPAR-BOOT-KIT-Right-Half-Shaft-Inner-04728262-/274625284466 When the shop said I needed a new seal, I thought they were referring to the clamp. As per Tony's response above, I shouldn't need the seal. But if I did, looks like that is on ebay too. https://www.ebay.com/itm/401724007824?epid=81189715&hash=item5d889de590:g:Je0AAOSwH9JeQzew |
Scott99 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Fallbrook, CA, US |
posted 05-19-2021 01:48 PM
Hi Pat! I'm the Prowler Owner that was unable to meet up with you on your trip when you visited with Patrick Gilbert in Bonsall, CA (small world!). This issue is getting complicated... The Boot P/N 4728262 is correct for the Inner Boot. But as I pointed out 2 years ago in my post, what is inside the box is a plastic boot (which is for the outer boot). The picture from the eBay ad you found is the same boot I have in my garage. It is a plastic material and the number stamped on it is the same as the one I have. However, the Inner Boot is rubber! Even though the Ad says 4728262 and the box says it too, what is inside the box is incorrect. THIS is what happened to me 2 years ago. UPDATE.. 5/20/21..Now, after revisiting this issue, I contacted a seller on eBay and confirmed that CV Boot P/N 4863722 (Outer) is also plastic. Inner Boot P/N 4728262 is still available on Moparpartsgiant.com... But I do not understand why the material is different than what is on our cars. I guess I was lucky 2 years ago when simply tightening the clamp on my inner boot solved my problem. I will PM you and we can discuss this further.
This message has been edited by Scott99 on 05-20-2021 at 12:35 PM |
Beachkat2 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Wasaga Beach, Ontario, Canada |
posted 05-19-2021 03:17 PM
I have that shaft if you are still looking. I would have to dig it out and inspect it. |
koolkty POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Oxford, MI, United States |
posted 05-19-2021 04:11 PM
Thanks everyone for your replies. I've been in touch with Tony Goertz; he has a complete right rear axle shaft with both the inner and outer boots filled with grease, and the seal to bind the shaft against the steel. He knows of someone soon heading to Flint, MI (I'm not too far from there) that he may be able to give it to and I can meet him there. If he can get the logistics figured out then I will be going with that one. I'll keep you all posted... |
ZuluProwler POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Suwanee, GA, USA |
posted 05-19-2021 04:56 PM
Please take some pics of the damaged / bent unit so that we can figure out what happened. It's got to be near impossible to bend a shaft without other major damage. It may have worn due to a lack of grease which would be more feasible so it'd be a good all-round follow-up to know the source. |
Tom Mills POA Site Supporter and Vendor Prowler Junkie Tom Mills / Jefferson Auto prowlerparts@jeffersonautocollision.com From:Niles, Michign, USA |
posted 05-19-2021 10:08 PM
Quote "The axle shaft is leaking because the shaft is slightly out of alignment, probably due to something I hit during the trip. They could replace the boot and seal and refill it with grease, but because the axle is out of alignment, the grease will keep coming out anyway." Not sure where the mechanic is coming from but what he is telling you is impossible. I didn't see any signs of anything hitting the axle and there is no way for it to be out of alignment. I would love to hear him explain that one to me. Of course the easiest way to repair the situation is to replace the axle but if it was mine I would remove the boot and see what you have first. That may be all that is needed. Just an opinion from a guy that has been in the auto repair business for 60 years. LOL |
Dave Haggas Prowler Junkie From:London , Hampshire , UK |
posted 05-20-2021 02:51 PM
quote: Couldn’t agree more Tom. Well put. |
Scott99 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Fallbrook, CA, US |
posted 05-20-2021 03:44 PM
Hi, from your other post in General... something "Black Diamond" said on page 2 about replacing his CV Boots... I reached out to him for specifics and he mentioned EMPI as a supplier. (Empi is mainly a VW Parts Supplier). Well, after more searching I came across this eBay listing from Empi.... https://www.ebay.com/itm/201684711045 I'm going to order a set and report back what I get. Looks promising! Scott
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Tony Goertz POA Site Supporter Administrating Kat Personal ScrapBook From:Lucan, Ontario, Canada |
posted 05-20-2021 04:14 PM
Thanks for the heads up Scott. I opened the box to check the spare Mopar inside boot I purchased a while ago. The boot matches the outer one as you said. It appears that it may fit the inside even though it is different. |
ZuluProwler POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Suwanee, GA, USA |
posted 05-20-2021 06:13 PM
If a shaft was so out-of-true that it leaked grease, I bet the ride would be something awful due to the vibration. Nothing about this problem rings correctly so I'm really interested to see how it turns out. |
Black Diamond POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Stoney Creek, Ontario, Canada |
posted 05-20-2021 06:45 PM
Tony I ordered the inner CV boot from Canadian Tire here in Canada and the outer CV boot from Napa Canada. They both fit perfect with no leaks and they were both rubber. |
Tony Goertz POA Site Supporter Administrating Kat Personal ScrapBook From:Lucan, Ontario, Canada |
posted 05-20-2021 07:27 PM
WOW - I never would have thought to check there. Same EMPI manufacturer as the ebay listing but a different part number. Looks like lots of solutions out there ! |
padroo POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Chesterton, IN, USA |
posted 05-20-2021 08:19 PM
The inner join is different than the outer CV joint. It is splined from what I read and is made to give. There are places that specialize in vehicle drive lines. |
ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 05-20-2021 09:51 PM
Another Golden Thread. Tony, what do you think about a SECTION of Sticky material. The older the cars (and WE) get, the more important this type of info will become. Could we put it all in ONE place? PLEASE, with sugar on top. |
Tony Goertz POA Site Supporter Administrating Kat Personal ScrapBook From:Lucan, Ontario, Canada |
posted 05-21-2021 12:17 PM
Moved to Reproduction Parts - and made sticky ... |
Scott99 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Fallbrook, CA, US |
posted 05-25-2021 01:40 PM
Ok, so here's my research on this issue: NAPA: (@ napaonline.com) NAPA US P/Ns are Both Boots are neoprene rubber manufactured by EMPI in Anaheim, CA EMPI info After searching on eBay I found a package deal which includes BOTH inner and outer cv boots with all clamps and grease. Enough to do ONE half-shaft. for $29.99 on eBay, search on "rear inner & outer CV Axle Boot Kit for Chrysler Prowler 2001 2001 EMPI" OR - you can go direct to an EMPI distributor Inner CV Boot P/N 86-2265-D Mopar Info I ordered both Mopar P/Ns. The inner CV Boot from Mopar is a cylindrical plastic boot and is not the same as the outer boot. DO Not order the Mopar p/n. Th Inner CV joint is referred to as a "tripod". Only the NAPA/EMPI Boot has these indentations in it. Inner CV Boot P/N 4728262 (DO Not Order) I suppose the correct way to replace these boots would be to replace the inner cv boot with the NAPA/EMPI rubber boot and the Mopar plastic boot for the outer CV Joint. But as Black Diamond found out, having them both be rubber doesn't effect anything and works just fine. Hope this helps out in the future EMPI Boots: MOPAR Boots: This message has been edited by Scott99 on 05-25-2021 at 04:37 PM |
Tomcal POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Long Island, NY, USA |
posted 05-25-2021 04:17 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/201684711045?fits=Year%3A2001%7CModel%3AProwler%7CMake%3AChrysler&hash=item2ef5587685:g:HD0AAOSw8w1X9rxH Part number in eBay picture appears to be different than shown by Scott99 from EMPI in other part of his post??? Part numbers can drive you to drink. LOL |
Scott99 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Fallbrook, CA, US |
posted 05-25-2021 04:29 PM
I see what you mean... The EMPI nbrs I show are straight from the Napa web site for their Napa p/ns where they show the Manufacturers P/Ns from EMPI. I ordered the eBay item shown which includes both EMPI Boots. Both boots were in the same box with the P/N 86-2342-D on it. I can't explain the p/ns that seller shows. This message has been edited by Scott99 on 05-25-2021 at 04:39 PM |
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