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Tinker
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Does anyone know the details involving the 1999 Prowler frame recalls? And what was the fix for this problem? Thank you, Tinker
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Recall Number: 99V313000
Dates Manufactured: MAY 1999 to AUG 1999
Number of Vehicles Affected: 546
Date Owners Notified On: Unavailable

Vehicle Description: Passenger vehicles. Some aluminum castings used in the manufacture of the vehicle frame may have missed the required heat treatment operation resulting in soft frame castings.

Consequence of Defect:
Some of these frames could fracture under vehicle operating conditions, resulting in loss of vehicle handling or vehicle control.

Corrective Action:
Dealers will replace these vehicles.


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Only late 1999 model year cars were recalled (all red). The frame problem did also affect the early 2000 cars, but were caught before they left the plant (mostly red, but some black also). That is why there are several 2000 model cars that went to auction as "repaired" cars.

Posted back then by CJ

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Would that mean a 2000 Silver with a build date of November 1999 should not have this potential problem.

The reason I ask is that shortly after I got mine I could hear a creaking sound when going in or out of driveways but I have not heard it in quite a while.

Is there any particular place one should look for evidence of a problem?

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Andria some in the past have heard similar noises and said rear supports were loose. You might want to check them.
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andria,the creaking problem was also recalled do to bad welds in the frt.those cars were bought back by at the time dc.

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One Arizona 1997 cat had a cracked frame and was bought back by Chrysler. This car had appox. 60K miles on it, and the crack was discovered during a oil change while at a Chrysler dealership. Dealership refused to release the car back to the owner, due to liability issue, and it took Chrysler over a month before they sent a company rep out to inspect the car for frame damage. Alcoa was called in to examine the car, and said it could be repaired by them, but a liability release had to be signed off. Chrysler decided to buy back the car for an agreed to amount of dollars instead.


One silver Arizona cat had the cracking noise coming from the frame, and was also bought back by Chrysler.
This car was low mileage, and had several other repeat issues that weren't being repaired to the satisfaction of the owner. Chrysler sublet the squeaking frame noise issue out to an independent repair facility, and their attempt to eliminate the noise also failed. The noises came from both the front suspension area and the rear area, so it wasn't just a rear cross member loose situation to fix. Multiple attempted repairs of the same issues, which weren't acceptable to the owner who reported that the repairs were not fixing the problems, finally caused Chrysler to give in and 'lemon law' this car.

Supposedly, both cars were reported to be heading for the crusher? Who knows for sure what happened to them?

This message has been edited by ALLEY CAT on 10-21-2009 at 06:08 PM

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there is no fix,call chrysler fiat,im sure that they will want to buy it back,or better yet alcoa alum,who built the frames.

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Before anyone with a creaking car begins to panic,,,,just try tightening the two 45 degree braces underneath the rear of your car.

These stabilization braces are located under the rear crossmember and bolt to the crossmember and to the frame near the rear wheels.

Really,,,Truely,,,the sky is not falling.

A Wonder Bar can also help to decrease the creaking noises caused by flexing.

This message has been edited by Larry Lord on 10-21-2009 at 04:48 PM

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How did you know the creaking I had heard was towards the back of the car, Is your AKA Kreskin? (The mind reader)

Thanks for the info everyone. It is truly appreciated.

Garysss: I'll let you check this for me while you are polishing the frame on my car this winter.

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The 97's had a frame recall whereas the front end of the frame was missing some welds that could effect steering and control of the car. There was never a WRITTEN recall on these. They called the owners on the phone and told them not to drive the vehicle any more until they had an Alcoa rep look at it. They volunteered to pick up the car in a covered transporter at my convenience and take it to the dealer of my choice for inspection, and then delivered back to me the same way. I had to make an apointment for this so that they could arrange to have the Alcoa rep there at that time. I was told by the Alcoa rep that mine had all the required welds and then some. Mine was built in August 97. The rep said that it was obvious mine was a later year build showing that they had more practice welding amd were doing a better job.
You may notice that after that, you can see colored marks at the welds showing that those welds were checked at the factory.
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I have had a ton of that creaking recently. I have narrowed it down to my knees and my back and once in awhile my elbows. Hope that helps.
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Ed,

I noticed that every time you came close to my Kat in Tn. with the windows down. Stupid me, I thought it was the Kat being tempermental! LOL!

Wally

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Sandy noticed it years ago and she has terrible hearing. lol
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Do what Larry suggests, I did and it worked.
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Did Chrysler notify owners of recalls ? I have a 99 red built 5/99 and this is the first I heard of this, when I bought they said only ball joint recall was on car, when did this recall start ? Thanks
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quote:
Originally posted by Fred Cain:
Did Chrysler notify owners of recalls ? I have a 99 red built 5/99 and this is the first I heard of this, when I bought they said only ball joint recall was on car, when did this recall start ? Thanks

The recall was back in 99 but they took care of all of it back then. They knew which VIN cars were affected and took care of it. Not a recall on ALL 99 Reds. You are safe.

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That make me feel better, I had put my vin # in recalls list and it said it had no outstanding recalls. Would have a hard time parting with her. Fred
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My 1999 Red was involved in that recall.After I was notified,a Rep from Alcoa called and set up an appointment to inspect my car.At the time I lived in Fayetteville,Ar. two days later a very well dressed guy pulls up in a rental car,knocks on the door and says "I'm here to inspect your car."I raised the garage door.He whips out a disposable jump suit and some kind of "weld inspector-gadget sensing flux capacitor" device and starts checking all the welds.It took him about 30 mins.He said everything was good.That was it.
He got back in his rental, drove back to Little Rock about a 4 hour drive and flew back to "Alcoa-ville"
He did tell me if he found any "bad" welds then I had three options...
1.Total buyback
2.Frame replacement
3.Vehicle replacement

Wow,that was a pretty serious recall.

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Is that how you recall it after 10 years ? lol
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I had a pretty lady doing my inspection. She had a book of pictures she kept looking at that located all the welds. She had it up on the rack. (I had a book of pictures too, but I wasn't looking at it much.) Smart lady. Seemed to know her stuff.
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This is the front of an 02 prowler frame that was hit. The LCA mount was ripped off while the weld bead around the perimeter of the casting stayed put. To me, that is a cold weld and not a good one. JMO

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Mine has creaked every time I back out of my driveway ever since I’ve had it. I just figured they all did it. Now I’m a little worried about it. I’m thinking I might take it down to the dealership and ask them about. Also where exactly do I look to find out the build date of my car? Jer
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"Also where exactly do I look to find out the build date of my car?"

Jer,,, Driver's door,,,inside along the curve going down will provide you the build date
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You are looking for > MDH

MDH is the Month, Day, and Hour that the car went down the line and reflects the time when the tub is dropped on the frame, and not when the car drove off the line at CAAP (Conner Avenue Assembly Plant).

Example to read:
Month Date Hour

(01)Jan (30)30th (13)1PM this is the time the car started down the line

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