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Laddie, in Denver you described how to bleed the air out of the cooling system so it will not get too hot with the air conditioning on. I must have been spaced, getting old or something, and can't remember how to find the petcock and what to do. Please let all of us know.
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on the front of the intake manifold, top side, there is a bleeder-kinda looks like a big brake bleeder fitting.
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posted 07-01-2002 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laddie Roussel     send a private message to Laddie Roussel   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Laddie Roussel
Donny.

I went out & took a pic this morning. It's just to the right front of the "3.5" emblem on top of engine... the bright spot in the pic (just below the 1st slot of black Plenum intake on right side of pic)... Can't really see the zerk fitting...

In Colorado, David N. had to bleed Al's Prowler at the Pike Cog Railway parking lot...

I agree with Butchee it looks like a brake zerk fitting... When I saw the tech do it, he barely opened it & steam came out... I think the service manual says to put a piece of aquarium tube over it & let water run out away from engine...


This message has been edited by Laddie Roussel on 07-01-2002 at 11:39 AM

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Here's another picture of the air bleeder valve, looks like you can use a 10mm or 3/8 wrench on it, use the hose as Laddie has suggested.


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Just a quick update on my car's overheat problem at Pikes Peak.

Got it home had the radiator flushed and coolent replaced.

NO HELP Car still over heated. New radiator, waterpump and thermostat are on the way. It is kind of weird.
Car stays cool if you run at idle but under load it overheats. So watch the gauges folks and keep it full of coolent and bleed the air from the system.

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ATTN: AL BECKER this been fixed yet?

Mine overheated Sunday... on a 3 mile drive, at LOW speed, in DRIVE< with AC on ( 8800 miles on car! YUK!

I look now and find water IS Coming directly out of the bottom of the overflow reservoir (for lack of a better term, where the pressurised cap is).... ANY ideas, ANYONE?

Dont want to go through the CatWoman (let's let the carlot boys drive it around til it gets hot) thingy. After letting it cool down Sunday, topped off with two 'beer' pitchers of water and then drove the 10+miles back home and it never got over halfway up the gauge. Put it to bed.
Next morning, a small puddle under reservoir area. Went to work. Tonight, lift the hood, add antifreeze to the 'cold' fill mark, let it idle for about 10 mins, temp gauge not even to center, went out to look, and loosing antifreeze ... mirror check shows dripping directly out of the bottom of reservoir, inside closest to side panel.

Anyone else had anything similar please?
Quick responses appreciated as going in tomorrow morning with it and already (by phone) advised them what I saw and they still want to 'run tests, bring it in, overnight, etc etc etc) (

Thanks ANY, all

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Geno Tex, there seems to be only five possibilities where the leak is coming from, crack in the plastic tank, leak from one of the two hoses, water coming out from the bottom of the over flow hose, or a weak cap (haven't seen anyone mention if that was replaced). Good luck, keep us informed on the problem.
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Definitely straight out of the plastic tank
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I have a tank I'm not using. I have a custom one on the firewall because of clearance with the Turbo's.If you're not under warranty, I'll send it to you. E-mail me privately. You pay ship.
AL

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Originally posted by butchcee:
I have a tank I'm not using. I have a custom one on the firewall because of clearance with the Turbo's.If you're not under warranty, I'll send it to you. E-mail me privately. You pay ship.
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Guess Al Becker didn't see the latter posts.

Warranty DC fix:

new water pump

new thermostat

new radiator ?

Runs COOL now! Something about crap in lower radiator (like Bars Leak, installed at CAAP) that settles in bottom of radiator and a complete flushing couldn't get it out.

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I remember an old post about Cats coming with casting sand in the cooling system.

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still under warranty thx for the offer , but was interested in responses to help 'guide the way' in case they were scratching their collective head. Thanks to all!
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Originally posted by butchcee:
I remember an old post about Cats coming with casting sand in the cooling system.

I overheard Al Becker and MadMax talking about the Prowler coming from the factory with some type of 'Bars Leak' installed in the radiator. Someone confirmed this from the factory (???) Apparently, this goo can collect in the bottom of radiator when the car sits for long periods of time, and cause problems. What I heard and understood,,,,,but don't know this to be fact.

Al - casting sand could also be a problem.

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I think it was Neal or another tech that mentioned the sand.
hard to believe that they would ship with a rad sealer in a new car, but I'm not saying that it didn't happen.
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Butchee....... I called Chrysler and confirmed.... All new cars include stop leak from the factory....MADMAX
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Folks,

I have a custom radiator on mine and still have heating issues under boost.

I doubt that a new radiator will fix this issue. I'm surprised Alley Cats heating issue got fixed.

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Mine overheated on the trip back to Florida from California. 80 mph. Had to slow down to 75mph. Then it was OK.
Outside temp 108F
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Originally posted by KOOLKAT:
Mine overheated on the trip back to Florida from California. 80 mph. Had to slow down to 75mph. Then it was OK.
Outside temp 108F

Koolcat - during the Sunday "Adult Driving" Cruise in Colorado led by Marc Scarbeary, Bob Goetz almost pegged the needle on his heat gauge. Outside temp was 104. He slowed to 95 going uphill and it was still pegged - go figure!

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WTF? Stop-leak in a NEW radiator? What are they smoking up there at the factory?!?

What is the reason for doing a Pep-Boys parking lot fix on a brand new car?

I know Barr's is the best, but still! WTF?!?

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MAX-thanks for the info. Well, with all the times my rad was out, there's no sealer left anymore. My car runs cool with standard antifreeze mix. needle on half most of the time.
Cruzing at 75-80 on a 90 + deg day, it goes between half and
three quarter. Slow down and back to half again.

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Guys - if you look at the newer type Bars bottles at the stores, you will read on the front that it says "FACTORY INSTALLED". Ask why? Because the factory doesn't want your car to leak,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,until the 36 months are up

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