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Marty Usher



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posted 07-11-2004 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Usher     send a private message to Marty Usher   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Marty Usher
...at a traffic light in Autostick this morning. It would go up but not back down to 1st. I put it in "D" and it took off in 2nd gear. I put it back in Autostick and it has shifted fine since.

Is this just a single electronic occurrence or for those that have cars go into "limp" mode, is this a sign of worse things to come?

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posted 07-11-2004 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
Marty, limp mode puts it in second and that is where it will stay until it is fixed or you cheat and disconnect the battery. I don't think it is a precursor to a bigger problem for you. Probably an anomaly.
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posted 07-11-2004 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Usher     send a private message to Marty Usher   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Marty Usher
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Marty,......Probably an anomaly.

I'll have to look anomaly up. You sure that word can be understood by people with a sixth grade education?

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posted 07-11-2004 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MeanGene     send a private message to MeanGene   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by MeanGene
Marty,

Don't flatter yourself, the sixth grade was the best three years of your life

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posted 07-11-2004 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Krehel     send a private message to Mike Krehel   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Mike Krehel
Marty,

Check your fluid level. If fluid is ok and it happens again check codes in TCM.

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My kat stopped down shifting in Autostick, would shift fine in DRIVE. had shifter mechanism replaced. Everything fine since.
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posted 07-11-2004 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
Marty, sorry, I skipped the space between an and omaly, an omaly. Much shorter word, at least by two or three letters.
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posted 07-11-2004 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Usher     send a private message to Marty Usher   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Marty Usher
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Marty,

Don't flatter yourself, the sixth grade was the best three years of your life


Yeah - well Nancy Lawson got held back too and if you had seen her then you'd know why I was there for three years.

MikeK - thanks for reply. I just checked fluid level at last oil change and know it was full then. I'll check it tonight.

I am hoping it just a one time thing (an anomoly according to Ed) and doesn't happen again.

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Marty,

Don't flatter yourself, the sixth grade was the best three years of your life


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Marty - I had the exact same thing happen to me about 3 months ago. Has been fine since. There is a possibility my fluid is low. I know I have a leak at the top cooler hose at the cooler. I need to check my fluid as well. Let us know what you find, if anything. And if you have those little black particulates in your fluid...
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posted 07-11-2004 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     send a private message to CJ   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CJ
Oh, Lord................here we go again!
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Oh, Lord................here we go again!

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posted 07-12-2004 07:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Usher     send a private message to Marty Usher   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Marty Usher
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Oh, Lord................here we go again!

CJ - can you approach DC for me. It would be gfreat if they could fund my driving as long term R & D.

Considering the previous nitrous use and the 10,000 miles with the additional torque from the stroker motor, and 83,000 miles of "pampered" driving, I think the tranny has held up well. HOpefully yesterday's experience was just an anomoly. (right Ed?)

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Would replacing the tranny input/ or output sensors help?
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posted 07-13-2004 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Black Tie 161     send a private message to Black Tie 161   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Black Tie 161
I've also seen this problem addressed for other cars at www.allpar.com
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MINE DOES THAT ONCE IN A WHILE I HAVE NOTICED IT SEEMS TO NOT DOWNSHIFT INTO FIRST GEAR WHEN I AM GOING SLOW IN SECOND FOR A WAYS AND THEN COME TO A REAL SLOW STOP....ITS LIKE THE SENSORS DONT REALIZE IT IS IN SECOND BECAUSE IT NEVER REACHED A CERTAIN RPM??? JUST AN OBSERVATION..

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Originally posted by RAT FINK:
MINE DOES THAT ONCE IN A WHILE I HAVE NOTICED IT SEEMS TO NOT DOWNSHIFT INTO FIRST GEAR WHEN I AM GOING SLOW IN SECOND FOR A WAYS AND THEN COME TO A REAL SLOW STOP....ITS LIKE THE SENSORS DONT REALIZE IT IS IN SECOND BECAUSE IT NEVER REACHED A CERTAIN RPM??? JUST AN OBSERVATION..


If you downshift manually you'll maybe know why it does that. If you downshift from 3rd to second, the revs match at 40 MPH....But shifting down from 2nd to 1st, the revs don't match until you are below 12 MPH!!!

So you may be crawling at 15 MPH, but it's still too fast for the tranny to want to automatically downshift to 1st. Usually it won't drop to 1st until you are at a dead stop only for the purpose of pulling away in first.

I think it's a self-preservation trick the tranny uses so you don't "burn out" first gear...so to speak.

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